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 HDTV FAQ, For all Console users

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Roland San
post Jun 7 2007, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(anythin @ Jun 6 2007, 01:42 PM)
So i should haggle about the price more...thanx..
BTW,just asking 4 ur personal opinion
which one is better(all around 3.2k n below i think)

1.Sharp Aquos LC32BX5M
2.Toshiba Regza 32WL66E
3.VIERA TX-32LX60M
4.VIERA TX-32LE7M
5.Samsung 32 R7 series
6.Samsung 32 S8 series
7.Sony 32 S series
8.LG 32LC4R
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Watch out for the Toshiba, Phillips and LG (I think) screens, especially the not-so-current models. That is, if you're using the VGA input as a means to connect your x360.

Some of these screens only accept a max of 1280x1024 via VGA, some even less. So understandably, sending a 1360x900 or whatever widescreen format signal into the tv wouldn't result in the optimal result. The x360 will try to compensate by using an expanded mode, but somehow it just won't fit properly, and the edges will get chopped off. The tvs will happily accept 720p or 1080i via component or HDMI (if you got Elite) but I think VGA > component.

Best to get a tv that will accept 1360x900 via VGA from the start and not have to worry. The R7s and R8s and Sonys and Sharps can do it, but not sure about the VIERAs.

This post has been edited by Roland San: Jun 7 2007, 03:23 PM
Roland San
post Jun 8 2007, 02:15 AM

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QUOTE(Lord_Ashe @ Jun 7 2007, 03:44 PM)
I own the Philips TV in question, and am using VGA to connect my 360. While the Dashboard will only accept 1024x768, for gaming I've not seen any overscanning/chopped off edges in 720p or 1080i.
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I spent a good deal of time checking out this with a Regza in the shop. The Regza loses 1 to 2 inches on the left of the screen, with the 360 running at 1360x768 (or whatever it is) expanded via VGA in Dashboard and in game.

I double-checked with the 360 running 720p and 1080i via component, and there was no overscan in either dashboard or game.

I was very attracted to the Regza and Phillips 37" teles because the PQ was clearly superior, but you know, for me, I'd just prefer to have the TV take in what I want via VGA cleanly. Looking at the Samsungs again now.
Roland San
post Jun 11 2007, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(Lord_Ashe @ Jun 11 2007, 08:45 AM)
Thanks for the input, bro.

You're the first person so far to have positive input on the Philips sets, LOL.

But to the point, you're right - overscanning sucks. However I've not detected any in mine - but you're definitely wise checking every single avenue until YOU are satisfied.

Good luck!
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I was in the shop looking at the R8, and the salesguy told me to have a look at the Phillips, cos he said the PQ was better citing the Pixel Plus tech. I'd also remembered what you said. True enough, the same DVD feed did appear better on the Phillips. The Phillips and the Regza 37" did look good with the DVD feed, and on SD, the Regza performed better than most other screens in the place (there were no new Samsung 37" tho, only the 40" S8 and R8).

I then checked out the specs for the VGA input, and found out all about it. However, after checking the AVS forums and reading here n there and with the x360, I managed to get the Regza going nicely through VGA with no overscan, through VGA at 1280x1048 from the x360, on both dashboard and in-game. How it does it, I don't know. There is no noticable loss in PQ, and in fact, after taking still photos with a tripod, it does show a tad bit more on-screen than with component, with no noticable stretching or whatever.

I know what I said b4 about watching out for this screen, but although it's no the newest tech, it looks pretty good, and they guy gave me a good deal on it with a full 5 year warranty.

Again I don't know how the xbox can send a 1280x1024 image out, and how the tv can display it at 1366x768 with no apparent ill effects, but it does it and I can't complain. Regular transmission is surprisingly decent, some channels work better than my old CRT. DVD feed looks fine, too.

Now, I wasa seriously considering a S8 40", but I figured, with the new apartment and trying to furnish it, it wasn't worth another rm1.5k, so it had to be a 37", and of them all the Regza did fit the bill, so I took it. For sure, something better, with a better price, and better tech will come along but this one seems to fit my (small) living room pretty well, and it does the job. I figured I'd rather be sitting home playing Forza than sitting in the shop trying to find fault in all the screens there.

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