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wil-i-am
post Nov 27 2013, 10:14 PM

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Is this scheme still available?
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post Nov 28 2013, 09:42 AM

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Not sure if it is available now but can be sure insurance companies will come out with version x.
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post Nov 28 2013, 09:44 AM

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As for financial literacy in Malaysia, we are way below shallow.
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post Nov 28 2013, 11:14 AM

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Wow, I posted the calculation in Dec 2009, that was like four years ago. I fail to educate people on the evil of saving plan.... I have failed miserably.

Hung head in great sorrow.

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post Nov 28 2013, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Nov 28 2013, 11:14 AM)
Wow, I posted the calculation in Dec 2009, that was like four years ago. I fail to educate people on the evil of saving plan.... I have failed miserably.

Hung head in great sorrow.

Xuzen
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laugh.gif can't save all...some would be possible......1 saved is "at least" i saved someone. notworthy.gif
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post Nov 28 2013, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(cheekiyaya @ Nov 18 2009, 09:37 AM)
Has anyone subscribed to this scheme or heard of it?

Someone introduced me this plan a while ago.

It's a force savings plan actually. You will need to pay monthly for 6 years only. The savings amount depends on how much you want to save, the agent will work out the rate for you. If you're saving about RM250, you will get yearly dividend (according to company performance) of RM700 (more or less). If you didnt withdraw any amount of dividend (there's a limit), they will add on 5.5% bonus on top of ur dividend. The dividend will be given for 35 years, but you can opt to withdraw after 6 years.

For those who know about it, may i know your opinion? Thanks!  nod.gif\

CORRECTION!!!!

It's RM295 per month (RM3550 per year), pay for 6 years, for a period of 30 years
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when u work this out, it maybe slightly better than FD.
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post Nov 28 2013, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Nov 28 2013, 11:14 AM)
Wow, I posted the calculation in Dec 2009, that was like four years ago. I fail to educate people on the evil of saving plan.... I have failed miserably.

Hung head in great sorrow.

Xuzen
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Then don't look below your comment.

First step is to call it endowment, not "savings plan". Only reason the agents don't want to call it endowment is because when people hear "insurance" they run away.
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post Nov 28 2013, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Nov 27 2013, 10:14 PM)
Is this scheme still available?
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Insurance companies will always have these kind of endowment policies, don't worry. They'll change a bit here and there but ultimately it's the same. The only difference is how much commission the agent gets to motivate them to sell you these "savings plans".

All paid for vacation! Yeah!

"These plan going to end in xx-xx-xxxx." "Because so good all the other company complain." "Bank Negara want to pull it back." "Only have these amount of lots left (dunno what lot also, it is not shares)."

All BS.
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post Dec 5 2013, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Nov 28 2013, 12:52 PM)
Insurance companies will always have these kind of endowment policies, don't worry. They'll change a bit here and there but ultimately it's the same. The only difference is how much commission the agent gets to motivate them to sell you these "savings plans".

All paid for vacation! Yeah!

"These plan going to end in xx-xx-xxxx." "Because so good all the other company complain." "Bank Negara want to pull it back." "Only have these amount of lots left (dunno what lot also, it is not shares)."

All BS.
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moon yuen
post Jan 31 2014, 10:21 PM

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The cash builder charge to my credit card. And Recently, i have changed my Credit card.

I hav contact my agent many times, but she never bother... pls advice how can i charge it to my new credit card ?

This post has been edited by moon yuen: Jan 31 2014, 10:32 PM
wil-i-am
post Feb 1 2014, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(moon yuen @ Jan 31 2014, 10:21 PM)
The cash builder charge to my credit card. And Recently, i  have changed my Credit card.

I hav contact my agent many times, but she never bother... pls advice how can i charge it to my new credit card ?
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post May 25 2014, 07:16 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Nov 28 2013, 11:14 AM)
Wow, I posted the calculation in Dec 2009, that was like four years ago. I fail to educate people on the evil of saving plan.... I have failed miserably.

Hung head in great sorrow.

Xuzen
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Actually how to calculate it? Too late for u to educate me as i already in this program for 2 years cannot turn back.

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post May 25 2014, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(Archer17 @ May 25 2014, 07:16 PM)
Actually how to calculate it? Too late for u to educate me as i already in this program for 2 years cannot turn back.
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First study Financial Mathematics for one semester in any good finance course. The cheapest way to learn the fundamentals of financial mathematics is to attend Module 4 of The Certified Financial Planner course offered by FPAM.

Technically you can turn back anytime, it is up to you whether you can stomach the cut-loss or not.

I can, I did and now I have no regrets (Not HLCB, but an AIA similar plan). But it is just me. It may differ with you.

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post May 26 2014, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ May 25 2014, 07:35 PM)
First study Financial Mathematics for one semester in any good finance course. The cheapest way to learn the fundamentals of financial mathematics is to attend Module 4 of The Certified Financial Planner course offered by FPAM.

Technically you can turn back anytime, it is up to you whether you can stomach the cut-loss or not.

I can, I did and now I have no regrets (Not HLCB, but an AIA similar plan). But it is just me. It may differ with you.

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where can i find and attend the module?

i think i cant cancel it. already commit half way. later i cancel i loss a lot.

maybe is a lesson for me. next time i should just buy medical card only.
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QUOTE(Archer17 @ May 26 2014, 11:27 AM)
where can i find and attend the module?

i think i cant cancel it. already commit half way. later i cancel i loss a lot.

maybe is a lesson for me. next time i should just buy medical card only.
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Come come, open mouth big big... here comes a big spoon to fed you:

Already mentioned to you "FPAM", just google it lah!

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post Mar 22 2023, 07:54 AM

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It's been 14 years now. Thinking about withdrawing everything from HLA cash builder as EPF seems to be able to build cash better. What do u guys think? Seeing that it's already many years now for us to see the performance...
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QUOTE(coyouth @ Mar 22 2023, 07:54 AM)
It's been 14 years now. Thinking about withdrawing everything from HLA cash builder as EPF seems to be able to build cash better. What do u guys think? Seeing that it's already many years now for us to see the performance...
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you had it for 14 years,...is the return better than epf?

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post Mar 22 2023, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Mar 22 2023, 08:15 AM)
you had it for 14 years,...is the return better than epf?
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Apart from the guaranteed yearly payment that is 2.43% of my capital, the current projected surrender value is lesser than my invested capital(paid premium).
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post Mar 22 2023, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(coyouth @ Mar 22 2023, 09:08 AM)
Apart from the guaranteed yearly payment that is 2.43% of my capital, the current projected surrender value is lesser than my invested capital(paid premium).
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So that means, even if the surrender value is the same as your capital, ...you just get back 2.43% per year instead of about average 5-6% if in epf...

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post Mar 22 2023, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Mar 22 2023, 09:12 AM)
So that means, even if the surrender value is the same as your capital, ...you just get back 2.43% per year instead of about average 5-6% if in epf...
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yes, you're correct. to be more accurate, projected surrender value is lesser than my capital. that means added with the 2.43% received per year, you get to breakeven and earn slightly more, as if you put it in FD. Lesser than EPF's average yearly dividend.

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