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post Dec 18 2009, 10:59 PM

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OK lets do some maths:

You need to put in RM 295.00/mth for 6 years.

Thereafter you get back RM 700.00/year + 5.5% on the dividend = RM 738.50/p.a for the next 30 years.

Part 1 of the calculation (The accumulation phase)
Mode = Begin, since your payment is paid at the beginning of the period
PMT = -(RM 295.00)
Period, N = 12mths x 6years = 72 periods
Present Value ,PVi = 0 meaning you start accumulation from zero
Interest rate, since you are not getting anything during this accumulation period, you are losing money because inflation is working against you. Therefore, I = (Growth - Inflation)/(1+inflation). I am using the conventional 5% inflation for calculation purpose. Therefore effective I = (0-5)/1.05 = -4.7619% p.a. or divided by twelve = 0.3968% per month.

Using these values I presented above I key in the figures into a financial calculator, your get a Future Value (FVi) = RM 18,433.48

Part 2 of the calculation (The distribution phase)
I will use Begin Mode as well, since I assume you will get your annuity due (payment) at the beginning of the period.
PMT = RM 700.00 + 5.5% = RM 738.50/p.a
Period, N = 30 years
Let the Present Value (PVii) equal to the above calculated FVi i.e. = RM 18,433.48
Let Future Value (FVii) = 0, since after 30 years you will get nothing back.
Now keying these new sets of figure into the financial calculator to calculate the Internal Rate Return or Return on Investment (ROI) for the whole 36 years tenure. (from start of the program until the end of distribution phase)

And....

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IRR or ROI(I) = 1.32% p.a.(annualised)

Taa Daa.....

Are you happy with this ROI?

Even FD is consistently hovering above 2%

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This post has been edited by xuzen: Dec 19 2009, 01:40 PM
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post Jun 5 2010, 07:58 PM

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QUOTE(besiegetank @ Jun 5 2010, 06:45 PM)
Recently one of my friends promoting HLA Wealth Builder to me. More info on the scheme can be found here --> HLA Wealth Builder

I have been trying to find the relevant topic but cannot find it here. Somehow, I felt skeptical when he assured me that the yield for capital growth can achieve >4.5% per year while non-withdrawal guaranteed income can get around 5.5%. So, I desperately needed some advice by financial guru here on whether this scheme is worth investing compare to other investment scheme such as UT. Feedbacks from buyers are welcomed on why they decided to buy it.

Another question, what's the difference between this scheme and the earlier HLA Cash Builder scheme?  icon_question.gif
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post Nov 26 2013, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Nov 26 2013, 08:00 PM)
Looks like your advice fell on deaf ears. Shame.
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Sigh.... Local financial literacy is still very shallow. Give money making opportunity to agents.

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post Nov 28 2013, 11:14 AM

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Wow, I posted the calculation in Dec 2009, that was like four years ago. I fail to educate people on the evil of saving plan.... I have failed miserably.

Hung head in great sorrow.

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post May 25 2014, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(Archer17 @ May 25 2014, 07:16 PM)
Actually how to calculate it? Too late for u to educate me as i already in this program for 2 years cannot turn back.
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First study Financial Mathematics for one semester in any good finance course. The cheapest way to learn the fundamentals of financial mathematics is to attend Module 4 of The Certified Financial Planner course offered by FPAM.

Technically you can turn back anytime, it is up to you whether you can stomach the cut-loss or not.

I can, I did and now I have no regrets (Not HLCB, but an AIA similar plan). But it is just me. It may differ with you.

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post May 26 2014, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(Archer17 @ May 26 2014, 11:27 AM)
where can i find and attend the module?

i think i cant cancel it. already commit half way. later i cancel i loss a lot.

maybe is a lesson for me. next time i should just buy medical card only.
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Come come, open mouth big big... here comes a big spoon to fed you:

Already mentioned to you "FPAM", just google it lah!

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