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> rkwan67,youliang -CON OCZ DDR3 RM320, refuse to send me extra 1 pair ram

karhoe
post Nov 19 2009, 09:13 PM

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Ok, seems like rkwan67 has been away, so that explains why he could not return the item on time.

Honestly speaking, what legal action could be taken against rkwan if, say he doesn't want to return both the RAMS? Honestly, I think the law will side the consumer. Let's twist the situation, what if rkwan67 accidentally breaks both pairs of RAMS upon receiving it? Do you think the law will ask him to refund you that extra pair of RAM?

What if this transaction has been an over the counter transaction in your shop? How would you ask the buyer to refund? You are taking advantage over the fact that this is an online environment, the fact that you know who your buyer is. What if it has been a consumable like a printer ink?

Btw, I'm curious, you lodged a police report? I would love to see what was reported tongue.gif

Anyway, it seems like rkwan is unhappy over the fact that he missed an opportunity to buy the RAM he wanted at RM360/380 back then. He bought the RAM from you at RM320 thinking it's a bargain, but due to TS seller, he lost the opportunity to get the RAM at the price he wanted. That is his opportunity cost.

If seller wants to provide an amicable solution, a win-win situation, rkwan just return both the RAMS and, zhen_wei why not source another RAM that rkwan wanted, and sell to him at your cost price or RM320 (fine, make it RM360/380 which was the price he thought he could get from other seller), whichever is higher?

zhen_wei, you are a reputable seller here, seeing the drastic actions that you take against your buyers for your fault is doing no good to your reputation.

Just my 2 cents, please don't flame me.

This post has been edited by karhoe: Nov 19 2009, 09:26 PM
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post Nov 19 2009, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(zhen^wei @ Nov 19 2009, 09:25 PM)
the case consider settled already. since the kid already promised return back 2 pair of ram to my office tomorow and exchange with 2X 2GB ddr3 1333mhz value ram (corsair)

cheers everyone, he is still kid, forgive him.
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Thumbs up, that's the way to go rclxms.gif
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post Nov 19 2009, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(zhen^wei @ Nov 19 2009, 09:25 PM)
the case consider settled already. since the kid already promised return back 2 pair of ram to my office tomorow and exchange with 2X 2GB ddr3 1333mhz value ram (corsair)

cheers everyone, he is still kid, forgive him.
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Honestly, you should give him that OCZ 1333Mhz, not Corsair
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post Nov 19 2009, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(rkwan67 @ Nov 19 2009, 09:42 PM)
so everyone think is the fair to me? if yes, then i go ahead.

seller fault, but buyer bear the responsibility of his fault (wrong info posted).

shud i forgive him for all his miscommunication within his company, talk foul language, wasting my time? n now i got to travel to get the ram back n VISIT him at HIS office to get MY ram. :thumbs up:

so now, i tot of using my money getting a better ram for my core i5. instead using my money on better ram, now i got a value ram. run a value ram on core i5 is totally wasting my money n time. everyone know core i5 is HP system n using a value on it? damn clever!
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Now you got two options

1) Full refund from him and get your OCZ 1333 from somewhere else, albeit at a higher price

2) Demand him to honor the sales, and give you OCZ 1333Mhz, or at least sell to you at COST price. (nothing to lose what)
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post Nov 19 2009, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(zhen^wei @ Nov 19 2009, 09:51 PM)
nice signature u have. i saw my big name there. thank you.

It is ok, and wont' affect my business at all.. btw, i starting my business when i was ur age.
when i saw rkwan67, i dono how to speak to u at all. tat's why i prefer talk to ur sister today to judge the issue.

after i do the report, the inspector told me, why not we write he taking the thing that "not belong to him" so the officer can
straight away take action against it. well, i know you too young and try to settle with you before i take 3rd action.

i stil remember what u write in SMS say :"so ? what are u going to do today ? not come my house already ?PDGM no car ? " this had challenge my patient and sorry for the rude words.

going to close the thread already. have a good day everyone.

youliang, rkwan67,
dude, study hard, prove to ur family u will get them proud one day. but not involve in this kind of police case.
if u have potential in IT field then put efford on it. one day u will become successful person.
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Aiyo, you also 'promoted' them in your signature, it is only normal they retaliate with a similar signature, whichever party started it first.

Anyway, do you have any problem giving him OCZ 1333Mhz, or at least sell to him at your cost price, surely you have nothing to lose right?
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post Nov 19 2009, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(quackpack @ Nov 19 2009, 11:16 PM)
I'm curious..can we see what did you reported to the police?

So far from what I see,you sent him wrong stuff so I am just curious how can police officer say "taking the thing not belong to him" when it actually belongs to him by law.
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QUOTE(zhen^wei @ Nov 19 2009, 09:51 PM)

after i do the report, the inspector told me, why not we write he taking the thing that "not belong to him" so the officer can
straight away take action against it. well, i know you too young and try to settle with you before i take 3rd action.
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The issue of "taking" does not even arise here, would you mind uploading the scanned police report? Would love to see it, well basically rkwan needs to know what has been lodged against him.
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post Nov 19 2009, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(zhen^wei @ Nov 19 2009, 11:23 PM)
bro. i am not say he canot put my name in his signature.
the difernet in price not RM20-30. i did said compensate him RM50 with my personal money tonight if he able to pass back 2 pair of ram to me.
well. we already agree to exchange with value ram corsair and ddr3 1333mhz (even it is higher cost than the ocz ram he keep)
we already do the best to solve this issue.  sorry we not able to exchange with ocz spec ops 1333mhz ddr3 ram.
and we already found out why we will do the mistake :
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this is my mistake not yet check properly.
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Hmm, compensate him RM50? That means you are willing to refund him RM320 + 50, why not just give him OCZ 1333 that he asked for, that he paid for? If the cost price is higher than RM320 + 50, offer him a deal to top up la
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post Nov 19 2009, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(rkwan67 @ Nov 19 2009, 11:28 PM)
aiyo.. he like so purposely.. i told him the ram at cheras now. he told me to get the ram back by tonight for him.. that is totally insane. night time travel to ppl house and take the ram out from client pc?
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Relax la bro, just wait for zhen_wei to reply, make it clear what you want once and for all.

So if zhen_wei give you back OCZ 1333 that you asked for, you will return him both the RAM, that's all right?

So now we just see if zhen_wei is agreeable to this.

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post Nov 19 2009, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(rkwan67 @ Nov 19 2009, 11:33 PM)
lol.. when did i keep ur ram? i explained that so clearly dy.. n still could not understand me?
let's see whether he want it o not..
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Don't "see see", make it clear, that you are agreeable to it, then we wait for zhen_wei to agree. Else, later he agree, you don't agree doh.gif

I think I just saw that zhen_wei said he cannot exchange, any reason why?

QUOTE(zhen^wei @ Nov 19 2009, 11:23 PM)
sorry we not able to exchange with ocz spec ops 1333mhz ddr3 ram.

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Any idea why? If it's the cost issue, if the difference is not much, it only makes sense that you bear it, since ultimately its your fault, or strike a deal with rkwan to top up, I can see that he really wants the RAM

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post Nov 19 2009, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(zhen^wei @ Nov 19 2009, 11:38 PM)
2 weeks ago.
and karhoe,
can you pm all the sellers see how much they selling the 1333mhz ddr3 ram (gaming, not value ram) ? and please ask their cost if necessory.

not offense. but since case is closed and the rkwan67 already agreed to exchang ewith ddr3 1333mhz  (value ram) then we have a deal.
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Tried searching around, can't find anyone selling this particular RAM, or maybe I don't know how to search, I don't know, maybe you want to PM him and tell him how much is your cost that you are going to sell to him.
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post Nov 19 2009, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(zhen^wei @ Nov 19 2009, 11:45 PM)
1. DDR3 1333mhz OCZ spec ops no more stock (suplier no have anymore)
2. DDR3 1333mhz pc ram price up. difernet RM100 ++ for 1 pair.
3. wrong thing accept, return, refund is necessory. but not for free upgrade smile.gif
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Oh, so rkwan, you either have to

1) Accept his RM320 + RM50 offer

or 2) Accept his RM320 + RM50 offer + RM50 top up (since you said the difference is RM100 for 1 pair, but again your cost price should be lesser than the difference right)

But since he said he got no more stock, so you just have to take option 1 la

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post Nov 19 2009, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(zhen^wei @ Nov 19 2009, 11:50 PM)
well.
RM370 only can buy 2 pair of value ram ddr3 1333mhz in market price now
tat's why i am offer him 2X 2gb ddr3 1333mhz ram corsair by tomorow.

any question now ?
i am gonna answer all before i sleep and avoid u all keep spam this thread
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Okay, so now you don't have the stock for the item that rkwan wanted?

We are not spamming this thread, we are posting 'constructive replies'
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post Nov 20 2009, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(rkwan67 @ Nov 20 2009, 10:03 AM)
so? i got my rm370 refund later?
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LOL, not settled yet?

QUOTE(zhen^wei @ Nov 20 2009, 08:08 AM)

I am offering him 3rd option which is we just have a kes mahkamah, i am very willing to do that. even for RM320 thing, i willing to pay another 32k or 320k for the mahkamah kes. He is too degil until the inspector told me : "kenapa tak lapor kes curi, kasi kes settle fast, nanti officer akan pergi rumahnya dapatkan barang yang kamu mau."

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You're aware that false reporting is a crime in Malaysia? This is not a 'curi' case. You'll probably get a round of scolding from the judge for using the term 'curi'.


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post Nov 20 2009, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(zhen^wei @ Nov 20 2009, 10:17 AM)
i can understand u are try to take advantage on seller mistake.
is ok. we give u "take the advantage" , u can come my office and talk to my staff.
since i am quite hard deal with u, sorry
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I don't see him taking advantage here, you have to understand that your mistake caused him to be unable to buy the HP RAM at a cheaper price last week.

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