A question to PhD holders

1. Would you guys quit studying when you see money?(for instance MLM which supposedly can earn 6 figure income a month)

2. When you have studied so hard to get into PhD level with years of experience in your studies, would you just quit it completely?

To me, it doesn't make any sense, why would you study so high when you can start earning that money right after finish your SPM or a little higher education right? Once you are at a PhD level, you wouldn't just leave it, like dropping what you studied to do MLM, you would like do research and stuff like that.

What do you Master's degree or PhD holders think?

I'm just so confused.

Thanks.

Because some people study for the sake of interest and self-improvement.

Not necessarily for money.

True, so you wouldn't dump everything when you see businesses like MLM which gets you 6 figure income, I mean quit your studies/job right?

I've no PhD.

But then, if I'm going to have one, I'll do it for the fun of researching and getting to know people who is related in my research. Travel around, expenses all on the university who sponsors my research.

And of course, if you're talking materially, PhD holders love the title though. A Dr. And the importance they hold in the institution.

my cousin obtained two masters and now persuing PhD...he worked in international company... for R&D

he got lot of income but money didnt seems to satisfy him.. he wears simple plain T shirt and drive his father`s 15 years wira...

p/s his salary got about 10k

Yeah, that's the word I was finding. satisfy.

No matter how much money you get, it's won't satisfy you internally..
Something like Einstein, he just works and study, money is no issue.

Yeah, in life you need money to live but you won't be satisfied no matter how much you get.

yes... Lot of people obtain satisfaction from money.. but it wont last long... the satisfaction from money... soon, you`ll feel empty... merz, BMW, rolex can give you euphoric satisfaction.. but they wont last.. soon, you feel bored of it...

my cousin focus on research on plants in biotech... even he back to hometown, he still extracts speciments for his research

How many ppl out there can earn a 6 figure on MLM?
I quit my first full time MLM on the very first month,becoz b4 i starting to earn more in MLM...my fren started to hate me

Haha, true. My bro does this MLM and keeps telling me to invite my friends for the briefing, it's so damn annoying.

Quite a number of my friends do MLM as a so-called side business, I too hate them calling me up just to invite me for an exclusive preview of their product which everyone would buy.

Ok, MLM is not the topic here.

Awakened_Angel, you cousin is a true studious human. Reminds me of my aunt when she was pursuing her PhD, she studies every night after putting her kids to sleep, sometimes when I'm down watching TV, she would come and ask me what do I think about a certain topic(maybe it's just to open up her closed mind which focused too much). I really admire her, she's not in for the money, she just loves it. More like a deep interest.

Even now at 38 years old, she does research on herself to find out on certain things. It's amazing to see to what extend she pushes it.

Honestly speaking, why did you ask?

I asked the question because there are quite a number of so-called PhD holders claiming to be from prestigious universities who does MLM.

I'm not satisfied with their response. They say that the money is big here, but when I ask "why did you pursue PhD or heck, a Master's degree for it matters?" they just give me a black stare.

LOL! That's because you seen through their true natures! Cos' they are most likely lying about it!

But if they give you those black stares then they simply lack conviction in what they believe in. Ouch.

Yeah, I suppose it all lies that come out from their mouth.

Anyway, thanks for the replies.

cheers.

typical MLM marketing strategies....

Yeah..it's sickening. so-called Doctor of Philosophy.. argh

I joined this @lk3n MLM during my Coll.. look back, how stupid I was

and they invited so called PhD and gave splendous speech about life and earn money... so called Doc...

and their tactic?? you see? this guy who god PhD and have 5 digit income left his job for this MLM company

If u got a PHD u got many choices...(u dun need to work hard,learn hard after ur PHD,becoz the PHD Title will talk for u)
If u only SPM(for sure u can be more successful than any PHD out there,but u need luck,courage,smart,n more hardworking than any PHD)

A phd doing MLM, u can imagine how persuasive of their words

This post has been edited by nujo87: Nov 17 2009, 11:59 AM

for example.... Lim Goh tong doesnt have a degree or even SPM, but he got all the PhD to work for him..

who is more brilliant? the uneducated boss or the PhD employee?

else, how do you think he could sell his products?

Nicely said.

after getting a BEng in Engineering, I see degree/post grad are mere pakaging to yourself.. when it comes to career, it needs street smart and livelong learning...

possessing a PhD doesn`t mean you can stop learning when grad...

As i said Lim Goh tong got luck,courage to RISK,smart,n more hardworking than his PHD employee.

If u never try,100% u wont be RICH.If u tried,at least some chance to became Wealthy.
If i got >10K per month wif my PHD,i quite satify for myself...Y still need to risk for RICH.
But if i a SPM,i had to risk for success,becoz i juz wont lose anything...when u risk,u not only can be success,u can be RICH too (But out of 100,how many r successful n how many stay <3k?)

If a PHD+ part time MLM, wow this guy can fly

This post has been edited by nujo87: Nov 17 2009, 01:37 PM

doing my mba now at the moment.
Although its for career, but in the long term is I am adding value to myself with knowledge.

To TS,
I know you could earn that much, but that doesnt mean u know much.
In MBA, there are many type of people from different industries, u can go in mix around, sometimes, its an eye opener.
Something u may not know all this while, but as in the class discussions, u may learn something new.

I know many high level people did.

Moral of the story, don't believe conmen. People often use Phd's or degrees or Masters as a way to convince(more like con) people to buy into their crap. It is more likely they are running around with fake titles. Whether it is an investment scheme or a new MLM scheme(or whatever), I can bet they will do everything they can to try to convince you.

Always questions people's claims/credentials if you find them suspicious(in fact always do a background check, it's safer...too many fake degrees, and fake Dr's in Malaysia).

Malaysian education definition is investment in financial security...While the true education is otherwise...If u study because u hope to get a good job, nothing wrong with that...but u are an idiot i suppose...Many idiots in malaysia think that the higher education they go, the merrier it was to earn money...We all do agree that most people in malaysia study not forsake of knowledge itself, but the advantage they could get from been knowledgable...That's why We all study more than others in other Countries...However, we still categorize as 3rd Class minded citizen because our wrong perception of education and knowledge...Well Done Malaysian



Focusing your life solely on making a buck shows a certain poverty of ambition. It asks too little of yourself. Because it's only when you hitch your wagon to something larger than yourself that you realize your true potential. >--Obama

Life is more than a bowl of rice >-- Me

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YES... this is what I realise... uneducated people tend to have this attitude.. "well, there`s nothing to lose"

while many educated people might think... 'what IF I lose it all?? better play safe.. "

Either way, both involves risk. It just depends on how high is the risk taken.
If LGT didn't take the risk having the "well, there's nothing to lose", there wouldn't be Genting Highlands today which turns out to be an international attraction. Something Malaysia should be proud of(being the one and only casino). Besides the fact that it's built on a hill.

it's more than just WOW!

Passion.

That's what some have. Others want money, but some are truly passionate about that field and as such aspire to know as much as possible in it.

The counter intuitive answer: the PhD employee.

Because you're implicitly using the money metric to determine 'brilliance' when many other metrics could be used.

cause that`s way it is in this world... have you ever seen TIME magazine publish stephen hawking as man of the year??

I got what you mean and I agree with what you just said.. but the world isnt....

That isn't the point. The point is that you're conflating in different metrics and trying to compare them when they measure different things.

Dear Thread Starter,

To answer your question, you must foremost understand the fundamental of Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs. You can get the answer from there.

Regards, Joey

Thanks. I briefly read through Maslow's Theory. It is somehow directly related with my question.
Thanks again.

Fallacy, does MLM guarantee a 6 figure income? Not necessarily. However, that is not the focus here, no?

As said, to study till the level of Masters or PhD is mostly for the seeking of of knowledge and self-improvement. In some cases it was to be promoted to higher position; such as taking MBA, or to become a lecturer.

After 50 years,probably no 1 will still remember LGT,Bill Gate....
But after century majority will still remember Einstein,Bruce Lee/MJ/P.Ramlee and also Hitler
Wat is successful?

This post has been edited by nujo87: Nov 19 2009, 09:21 AM

I still remember Elvis

I remember ELVIS too,but did tat purposely...1 msia ma

OK. I think I got fairly enough answers.
Thanks again.