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TSleongal
post Nov 13 2009, 09:35 AM, updated 17y ago

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Besides, "how's the progress?"

for cases after signing of S&P (since we need to follow up like once a week)....

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post Nov 13 2009, 10:06 AM

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last time i called at least once a day, make them to explain to me what they do today and give some pressure.
since i noticed they are too too slow after one week.
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post Nov 13 2009, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(dvinez @ Nov 13 2009, 10:06 AM)
last time i called at least once a day, make them to explain to me what they do today and give some pressure.
since i noticed they are too too slow after one week.
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don't they repeat the same thing everything?



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post Nov 13 2009, 10:15 AM

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mine was slow and giving same lame excuses, i got a lawyer friend to consult.
however, my purpose is to urge them to do their stuff faster only, to let them know i care to complaint.
thing that can be done 3-4 days and they are taking 2 weeks. vmad.gif
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post Nov 13 2009, 10:41 AM

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In my case, i bough a leasehold property, so, I have to wait for consent letter.

One month later, I follow up with the "pejabat tanah" and i was told the consent letter is ready to be pick up. Then, I called the lawyer, asking about the progress, as if I don't know anything that consent letter is ready.. u know what, they lawyer said.. "ooo.. that thing needs 3 months....".. WTF!!! That thing is ready to be pickup and they said I need to wait more???? It simply shows they're lazy to follow up..
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vmad.gif tat day before i signed the s&p, i noticed that there is double printing in some pages, i asked the legal assistant if that's ok, and she says that is ok....then, vmad.gif today she called me and said that the owner doesn't want to sign because of this error.... vmad.gif i have to go all the way to the law firm; in addition, there will be a delay for 1-2 days.... vmad.gif

even when tat day s&p is ready to be signed, the legal assistant didn't inform me until i call to find out... vmad.gif guess, after tis, i need closely follow up with them.....


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post Nov 13 2009, 02:18 PM

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yours freehold or leasehold? need land office consent ka?

Heard they have flood one months plus ago, and the docs in the office were all messed up, now they are still clearing it.

Anybody experiencing a long delay with the land office?
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post Nov 13 2009, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(noed18 @ Nov 13 2009, 02:18 PM)
yours freehold or leasehold? need land office consent ka?

Heard they have flood one months plus ago, and the docs in the office were all messed up, now they are still clearing it.

Anybody experiencing a long delay with the land office?
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mine is freehold

blink.gif flood? where is land office?
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post Nov 13 2009, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(dvinez @ Nov 13 2009, 10:06 AM)
last time i called at least once a day, make them to explain to me what they do today and give some pressure.
since i noticed they are too too slow after one week.
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Agree... i also have the impression that lawyer do things very slowly.


Added on November 13, 2009, 2:30 pm
QUOTE(leongal @ Nov 13 2009, 02:20 PM)
mine is freehold

blink.gif flood? where is land office?
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On average.. freehold take 3 months and leasehold take 6 months to finish the agreement... Don't you all think it's too slow also??


Added on November 13, 2009, 2:32 pm
QUOTE(dvinez @ Nov 13 2009, 10:15 AM)
mine was slow and giving same lame excuses, i got a lawyer friend to consult.
however, my purpose is to urge them to do their stuff faster only, to let them know i care to complaint.
thing that can be done 3-4 days and they are taking 2 weeks.  vmad.gif
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once you got a proof that they do things very slow, email to their bosses and ask them to pay if they exceeded the 3 months (freehold case)...

This post has been edited by arthurlwf: Nov 13 2009, 02:32 PM
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QUOTE(arthurlwf @ Nov 13 2009, 02:28 PM)
Agree... i also have the impression that lawyer do things very slowly.


Added on November 13, 2009, 2:30 pm

On average.. freehold take 3 months and leasehold take 6 months to finish the agreement... Don't you all think it's too slow also??
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ya....slow, how to follow up with lawyer on this (since they are going to say waiting for "land office")/ or how to follow up with the land office....any idea?
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QUOTE(leongal @ Nov 13 2009, 02:32 PM)
ya....slow, how to follow up with lawyer on this (since they are going to say waiting for "land office")/ or how to follow up with the land office....any idea?
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As in my case, I find a proven case that the lawyer did very slowly...and below are the steps:
1) Find the law firm owner via http://www.malaysianbar.org.my/
2) Write an email to the law firm owner with content on the proven case that's moving like a snail
3) Add up a condition that if the law firm fail to finish the agreement in 3 months (free hold title), then the law firm is require to pay up the penalty fees
Immediately, I received a response and the speed have increase a little (satisfied a bit la)

But of course, you will still need to follow up with the law firm as often as possible as it's not easy to change the law firm culture...
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QUOTE(leongal @ Nov 13 2009, 02:02 PM)
vmad.gif tat day before i signed the s&p, i noticed that there is double printing in some pages, i asked the legal assistant if that's ok, and she says that is ok....then,  vmad.gif today she called me and said that the owner doesn't want to sign because of this error.... vmad.gif i have to go all the way to the law firm; in addition, there will be a delay for 1-2 days.... vmad.gif

even when tat day s&p is ready to be signed, the legal assistant didn't inform me until i call to find out... vmad.gif guess, after tis, i need closely follow up with them.....
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mine worst, they had my property address printed wrongly.
ask me sign first then they amend.
never give me notice when they want payment, today tell today want collect.
collect money want fast fast, after collect everything slow slow.
they took 4+ months for freehold property, no charges since i made complaint to bank almost everyday.

those shits disgrace lawyer and did not see their professionalism at all. both panel and bank lawyer same !

anyone know when i can get my grant ? around 6 months after i get house key ?
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post Nov 13 2009, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(dvinez @ Nov 13 2009, 03:52 PM)
mine worst, they had my property address printed wrongly.
ask me sign first then they amend.
never give me notice when they want payment, today tell today want collect.
collect money want fast fast, after collect everything slow slow.
they took 4+ months for freehold property, no charges since i made complaint to bank almost everyday.

those shits disgrace lawyer and did not see their professionalism at all. both panel and bank lawyer same !

anyone know when i can get my grant ? around 6 months after i get house key ?
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Totally agreed, when need money very fast, when work very slow.

I notice, some of the lawyer firm use really low level staff to do work like, prepare & compile all the document, thus a lot of mistake. The actual lawyer is only Sign.

For few hour work can be drag for a week.
Simple case, one document need to collect from bank took a week. Why?
Day 1. Our office boy is not in, MC, onleave, busy or etc
Day 2. After they manage to collect, they might not straight away handle your case, normally will wait for next day only reach the office staff to look into the file (if you are lucky).
Day 3. After reach the office staff, need to do some paper work, then prepare for lawyer to EXECUTE.
Day 4....onwards, sleeping on lawyer table. (reason: lawyer not in, lawyer busy....etc)
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QUOTE(dannyw @ Nov 13 2009, 05:38 PM)
Totally agreed, when need money very fast, when work very slow.

I notice, some of the lawyer firm use really low level staff to do work like, prepare & compile all the document, thus a lot of  mistake. The actual lawyer is only Sign.

For few hour work can be drag for a week.
Simple case, one document need to collect from bank took a week. Why?
Day 1. Our office boy is not in, MC, onleave, busy or etc
Day 2. After they manage to collect, they might not straight away handle your case, normally will wait for next day only reach the office staff to look into the file (if you are lucky).
Day 3. After reach the office staff, need to do some paper work, then prepare for lawyer to EXECUTE.
Day 4....onwards, sleeping on lawyer table. (reason: lawyer not in, lawyer busy....etc)
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so true.... vmad.gif that's y i decided to drive there again to sign the s&p; giving me lame excuse no office boy, nit to wait till monday vmad.gif

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post Nov 13 2009, 10:15 PM

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Here is my story start at July 2009.

My strata title came out at the time I sign S&P. She write to developer to request for direct transfer. Waiting to the permission letter alone took 1 month! Why the delay? The developer need vendor to pay RM500 before release the letter but the lawyer never ask and developer never say. Both stupid side just waiting for each other. At the end, I ask the lawyer to call developer what happen, then only know... Really tak boleh harap.

After sign S&P, now waiting again for MOT from developer. I call every week. Everytime she say she will check with her assistant and call me back. But she never return my call. The next day I am calling again. She say she will check with assistant again. I say yesterday you didn't check? She say her assistant did not update her and will return my call after check. Guess what, no call... WT

I signed S&P 2 months ago, until now still haven't get my promised rebate. She keep saying already inform account department but week after week, no rebate.

No next time. I will make sure people who know me wont go to this firm.

Lastly, this firm is in Sunway.
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post Nov 13 2009, 10:50 PM

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pls bear with all this la, we r living in bolehland. if can afford, migrate to Singapore. they can finished at 10x faster. no point complaining, pay higher (+living costs etc), so get better outcome. u pay peanut u get..
i lived >10 yrs in Singapore, i can tell the differences.

exception: we pay higher internet price in Msia but slower speed...
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QUOTE(lara_ @ Nov 13 2009, 10:15 PM)
Here is my story start at July 2009.

My strata title came out at the time I sign S&P. She write to developer to request for direct transfer. Waiting to the permission letter alone took 1 month! Why the delay? The developer need vendor to pay RM500 before release the letter but the lawyer never ask and developer never say. Both stupid side just waiting for each other. At the end, I ask the lawyer to call developer what happen, then only know... Really tak boleh harap.

After sign S&P, now waiting again for MOT from developer. I call every week. Everytime she say she will check with her assistant and call me back. But she never return my call. The next day I am calling again. She say she will check with assistant again. I say yesterday you didn't check? She say her assistant did not update her and will return my call after check. Guess what, no call... WT

I signed S&P 2 months ago, until now still haven't get my promised rebate. She keep saying already inform account department but week after week, no rebate.

No next time. I will make sure people who know me wont go to this firm.

Lastly, this firm is in Sunway.
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did anyone refer to u for this lawyer? or, you just search yourself?

after hearing this.....worries me; need close bugging..... rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(lara_ @ Nov 13 2009, 10:15 PM)
Here is my story start at July 2009.

My strata title came out at the time I sign S&P. She write to developer to request for direct transfer. Waiting to the permission letter alone took 1 month! Why the delay? The developer need vendor to pay RM500 before release the letter but the lawyer never ask and developer never say. Both stupid side just waiting for each other. At the end, I ask the lawyer to call developer what happen, then only know... Really tak boleh harap.

After sign S&P, now waiting again for MOT from developer. I call every week. Everytime she say she will check with her assistant and call me back. But she never return my call. The next day I am calling again. She say she will check with assistant again. I say yesterday you didn't check? She say her assistant did not update her and will return my call after check. Guess what, no call... WT

I signed S&P 2 months ago, until now still haven't get my promised rebate. She keep saying already inform account department but week after week, no rebate.

No next time. I will make sure people who know me wont go to this firm.

Lastly, this firm is in Sunway.
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Exactly, all this lawyer firm staff i don't know want to say they are lazy, busy or want face. The fact is they won't call for following up when document in and out. Just keep waiting.
Eg, document sent to developer, sent to vendor bank, etc....if you ask them, they say sent already, should be reply within 14 days, after 13 days you call again, they will say if they no respone, we extend one more week, then when you ask them did they follow up, they will say 'NO'. Piss me off.... i scold them, why can't you all call and follow up? vmad.gif

In fact, if you look at your lawyer bill, there should have one part charge us about RM100 for telephone call, but i guess they never utilise even RM0.10.

So, what i did was, no matter my document reach where, i follow up myself. Sound stupid, pay people money, yet gotto follow up our own....

What to do, we have such a nice Lawyer........ doh.gif
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QUOTE(dannyw @ Nov 14 2009, 08:52 AM)
Exactly, all this lawyer firm staff i don't know want to say they are lazy, busy or want face. The fact is they won't call for following up when document in and out. Just keep waiting.
Eg, document sent to developer, sent to vendor bank, etc....if you ask them, they say sent already, should be reply within 14 days, after 13 days you call again, they will say if they no respone, we extend one more week, then when you ask them did they follow up, they will say 'NO'. Piss me off.... i scold them, why can't you all call and follow up?  vmad.gif

In fact, if you look at your lawyer bill, there should have one part charge us about RM100 for telephone call, but i guess they never utilise even RM0.10.

So, what i did was, no matter my document reach where, i follow up myself. Sound stupid, pay people money, yet gotto follow up our own....

What to do, we have such a nice Lawyer........ doh.gif
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so true mad.gif even b4 signing s&p, the s&p was ready, she din bother calling me and inform me that the owner has sited the draft copy, and tat it is now ready for signing....luckily i called vmad.gif
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QUOTE(leongal @ Nov 14 2009, 12:03 AM)
did anyone refer to u for this lawyer? or, you just search yourself?

after hearing this.....worries me; need close bugging..... rclxub.gif
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The firm is introduce by the sales agent. This is my first house. I dont have any experience before and do not know any lawyer.
She say this firm is good. She knows the boss lawyer.

Maybe only the boss is good (who knows whistling.gif ) but I can say the legal assistant is not good enough shakehead.gif .

Think of want to complain but I dont want her to become jobless (not so serious maybe biggrin.gif ).
Anyway, the boss will know sooner or later.

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