another advantage Dell has over the AOC other than the connectivity is the actual viewing size itself..

AOC is 23.6" while Dell is true 24"

i had the same dilemma and went with the dell


assuming that ur carrying audio signal on the HDMI cable and assuming the DAC in the monitor is better than the onboard DAC of ur mobo. it can actually be a pretty good experience.

itll just totally bypass ur onboard soundcard avoiding all the interference itll pickup and send the audio signal to the monitor's DAC and give u nice stereo sound. if theres a line out (like the Dell ST2410 has) u can just connect the cable from lineout to ur AV amp or 2.1 speaker and get better sound. ur not just limited to the Dell soundbar or any built in speakers

read again properly... i did say ur NOT limited to the LCD's speakers. u can connect to other external amp/ speakers via the monitor's lineout.



there is also another positive side to using HDMI. the connectors are smaller and they are easier to handle as compared to DVI where its big and u have to screw them in for a secure connection. somemore if u buy the wrong type of DVI cable, ull probably end up with a cable that doesnt fit ur monitor just like if THIS GUY. HDMI connectors are all the same.

u must be damn syiok now....i really wish i had the VK266H.

wanted to buy that....but my fiancee dont allow me to buy 1 big monitor for 1.4k

but she allowed me to buy 2 slightly small monitors for 1.4k.

reason?

so i can do my work at home and no need go office to do my work on the weekends

fully utilizing my 2xST2410s



damn syiok..... i dunno how ill ever go back to using dual 17" in the office


n the monitor is good la...out of the box it feels damn nice.. even gaming MW2 and Crysis Warhead images are excellent with no ghosting/lag.

love the monitor.... thanks loki for the suggestion

not sure...could be the angle of the camera...

or the settings in the camera... my fiance has a tendency of playing around with camera settings.

currently at stock factory settings....

yeah i agree its a little too bright especially for the primary monitor...

will try out ur settings when i have the time.


placed order on the website on the 1st of jan and received on the 5th of jan

add rm19 and ull get the Dell 23" ST2310 delivered right to ur door with 3 years of warranty and a very well reputed after sales service

just curious any particular reason why ur looking for 16:10 22" ???

between the 2 id recommend ST2410

for 3 reasons...

1/ 24" viewing area instead of the usual 23.6 like the viewsonic...i find this whole inaccuracy thing annoying... 22" are actually 21.5....24" are actually 23.6....the dell is true 24" so thats a good thing in my book (n bigger better mah, even if its only a small margin )

2/ no speakers...so theoretically the money u pay is basically going into better parts/components and not spent on speakers where other parts are cut down.

3/ dell warranty and aftersales service....kinda hard to beat theirs.

This post has been edited by mADmAN: Jan 13 2010, 04:34 PM

im guessing the Dell U2410

pretty hard to find decent monitors with VESA mounts these days since the emergence of 16:9 monitors...

back when common monitors were 16:10, practically all of them had VESA mounts.

shops typically dont sell dell stuff....even the dell store oso u cant order monitors....i know coz i tried asking the dell store in mid valley before..

ur gonna have to order that from dell.com.my

the U2410? i doubt any shop would want to sell that since they have to pay for the stocks first....and thats a very expensive monitor....

a 24" monitor costing RM700 is much easier to sell than a 24" monitor costing RM1.8k

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Added on January 13, 2010, 5:26 pmoh yeah...the delivery thing...

i placed my order on jan 1st night... and got it jan 5th morning.

This post has been edited by mADmAN: Jan 13 2010, 05:26 PM

old LCD is a samsung 226bw

color production looks good to me...im not much of a videophile.....though honestly its hard for me to compare....

was using 8600gt with the 226bw and that card cant handle native reso nicely.

then i bought new GC with the ST2410 one shot...so image is of course better la considering i can run everything at native reso now

nope....sold off the 226bw to my friend the day i hooked up the ST2410

my original plan....was to get the Asus 26" for 1.4k.....but fiance dont let...

but she did allow me buy 2x24" for 1.4k.....so that i can do work at home.


never had any intention on getting an IPS panel....too expensive for my taste.

imho, if u can afford the U2410 and if panel thingy isnt much of a concern, and if u dont need dual monitors.....

get a single big ass monitor...like the Asus 26"...though im not too sure how good it is as ive never seen it personally...

but i have seen the 24" version (it was off though) and it looked sexy as hell

anyway, vote goes to single 26" because..........


read the words


This post has been edited by mADmAN: Jan 13 2010, 08:19 PM

Not to me.. .coz in garage sales you can find 3m hdmi cable for rm55 from ngbh...not sure about quality,but should be enough for normal usage...

theoretically, yeah ur right....

but there have been many claims from audiophiles (some from this forum itself) about how they hear a difference between cheap and expensive spdif cable.

even my own colleague whos not an audiophile can hear a difference in his PS3-?Samsung HTiB setup between my cheap Choseal optical cable and the RM1xx Phillips optical cable he bought

during the last headphile meet, some forumers even mentioned that they heard a huge difference between normal USB cables and expensive RM1k++ USB cables when paired with a USB DAC

so....kinda hard to say...

but this is audio wise....video wise, no idea. never heard any claims of differences before...except when using cheap S-video cable vs Monster S-Video cable for their astro connection to their LCD TV.

im talking about gaming la....gaming damn hard...

onboard graphic for gaming @ 1680*1050 = slideshow.

agree.....best is live with wat u have,.......if it sounds good to u...be happy


big monitor is gooooooooooooddd..... u get to see ALOT more things...especially when u work with spreadsheets alot like i do. hence the dual 24"

next step should be a 30" monitor...either Dell 30" or 30" ACD.


i never agree to getting an LCD TV to use exclusively as a PC monitor...text tends to be blurry due to the bigger pixel pitch....but if connecting to HTPC for downloads and movies, and surfing as side item...then yeah...thats fine...thats what i do with my 42" plasma



y do u need driver? ive never even bothered with any of the discs that came with all of my monitors to date...

the presets... its called PREset for a reason ...

u can have ur own custom setting, though i doubt u can actually edit the factory presets.


for three... the viewing area is actually 24"...not 23.6" like most other 16:9 full HD monitors

actually the ST2410 is the only one i know that has a viewing area of 24"

This post has been edited by mADmAN: Jan 15 2010, 11:58 AM

its possible to get a 24" for RM650....

but ur 16:10 part is gonna be tough... most LCDs within ur price range are 16:9 1080p LCDs.