Nov 13 2009, 11:35 AM
QUOTE(sHsIkuA @ Nov 13 2009, 10:59 AM)
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We have an amazing midfield!
You guys wanna start talking about our midfielder here?
For me, I disagree with what this guy just said. I mean sure we have a one hell of a box to box midfielder, Fletch but we are still lacking a bit of the goal scoring threat when we are going forward.
- Anderson is improving, but I think he need to practice on his shooting ala Scholes
- Carrick is playing deep, doesn't do much and taking the rare shots once in a while, a great passer though when he's on form
- Obertan, still early but he's promising so far
- Nani...
need more teamwork and understanding. Skills and fancy move alone don't bring you anywhere (read: early Ronaldo)
- Valencia, great player so far. Still improving and definitely will be a threat if he has the confident to take the goal himself instead of passing the ball around. Also, never use his left leg but whatever, boring type of dribbling but as long as it works, who cares
- Hargo, he was amazing before he's injured, hope he can be as good or better than he was...definitely looking forward for his return
- Park, another Fletch type of player and I really admire his work rate, not much of a goalscoring threat though.
- Giggsy / Scholesy, legend but they are way beyond their prime now. Great passer / team player but when it comes to goal scoring, not really a threat.
- and there's Tosic, Gibson, and other youngster that will step up some day
So far we are winning the game but Rooney / Berbatov needs to drop deep to helps and this in turn making our front empty. The opponent simply won't be scared since our scoring threat is dropping deep and with no threat from other midfielder or wingers, they simply won't hesitate to attack.
We do have an outstanding midfield(talking about the centre.. wings still in work in progress mode). Vs Chelsea. We dominated that area when everyone played down our chances against their diamond citing our lack of midfield talent to theirs. Yet it was the opposite in the game.We have an amazing midfield!
You guys wanna start talking about our midfielder here?
For me, I disagree with what this guy just said. I mean sure we have a one hell of a box to box midfielder, Fletch but we are still lacking a bit of the goal scoring threat when we are going forward.
- Anderson is improving, but I think he need to practice on his shooting ala Scholes
- Carrick is playing deep, doesn't do much and taking the rare shots once in a while, a great passer though when he's on form
- Obertan, still early but he's promising so far
- Nani...
need more teamwork and understanding. Skills and fancy move alone don't bring you anywhere (read: early Ronaldo)- Valencia, great player so far. Still improving and definitely will be a threat if he has the confident to take the goal himself instead of passing the ball around. Also, never use his left leg but whatever, boring type of dribbling but as long as it works, who cares
- Hargo, he was amazing before he's injured, hope he can be as good or better than he was...definitely looking forward for his return
- Park, another Fletch type of player and I really admire his work rate, not much of a goalscoring threat though.
- Giggsy / Scholesy, legend but they are way beyond their prime now. Great passer / team player but when it comes to goal scoring, not really a threat.
- and there's Tosic, Gibson, and other youngster that will step up some day
So far we are winning the game but Rooney / Berbatov needs to drop deep to helps and this in turn making our front empty. The opponent simply won't be scared since our scoring threat is dropping deep and with no threat from other midfielder or wingers, they simply won't hesitate to attack.
You know you don't need to be scoring to be considered great. Carrick-Scholes hardly scores in 06/07, yet they dominated the ball so much that it allows the others to play and do damage(scoring goals and whatnot). It's become a bit of a myth that our midfield is weak because they don't score goals. Look at Barca's midfield.. look at their stats. Hardly amazing.
Don't think Anderson will improve much on the shooting bit. He will get to around 5 or so, but not more. Just look at Carrick since his move here. He improved a little, but not more. That's just the way it is and we have to accept that. I've always maintained that for goals we must look at the wingers for the bulk of it from midfield. And I've always said that those goal scoring midfielders all play in advance positions(wingers, behind the striker or part of a 3 CM setup). It's like what Ronaldo did last two seasons.. no defensive responsibility, which our CMs must peform each game since we don't have anyone else to cover them like the others. Lampard play in that diamond, Gerrard plays behind Torres, Fabregas have two players next/behind him doing all the work.. go find a player that is scoring goal consistently playing in the centre of a 442, and then tell SAF about it. We play 442 most of the time which means our CMs are a bit restricted in that respect and we have no place for an AM.
We do have a very good midfield.
Fletcher-Carrick-Ando(any of those two in 442)
Giggs, Scholes, Hargreaves as back up.
It's the wings which is a bit problematic since we're waiting for Nani to grow up, but unfortunately it hasn't happen yet. Giggs have been very good playing there this season, and hopefully Obertan play like he does in his cameos most of the time.. that will help us greatly. Valencia have been steady progressing.. I like what I've seen from him so far.. and he look pretty good against Chelsea the other day. Hoping for a better performances in this area after new year.. with Valencia settling in, Obertan becoming another regular piece there and somehow Nani finding a functional brain.
QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Nov 13 2009, 11:16 AM)
No Wan. I think it's wrong for him to do that (if he really said that), even he is just commenting on how SAF deal with things. I think what happened in the room, stays in the room. It is very unproffesional for him to say that. Ya, we all more or less know how SAF works, but why want to tell it to the media?
I really don't like the way Nani handled the question.
He doesn't criticise SAF for it, nor does he shed any light or something controversial behind the scenes. He just said that SAF can be kind when it's good, but also can be hard on you if you're not doing your job properly, which is true. And he's not the first player to have said that.I really don't like the way Nani handled the question.
Added on November 13, 2009, 11:44 amHaving read the full quotes(only read bits of it before), I sympathise with him on not getting regular run in the side to build his form, but he's wrong if he expects to start the important games. If your not in form, you don't play.. simple as. It's a bit of a problem with the big squad we have nowadays. On one hand you have to think what's best for the team, but on the other hand we have the players form to think about.. which one would we sacrifice?
This post has been edited by Wan: Nov 13 2009, 11:44 AM
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Excellent result, although the if the 'home' team lose it would have been far better for entertainment purposes.
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