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debbieyss
post Nov 4 2009, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(epalbee3 @ Nov 4 2009, 10:33 PM)
how many month you buy?

1 index worth how much?


Added on November 4, 2009, 10:34 pm

do you need to pay commission?
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I buy 1 month lah
i don't know how to play spread

1 index = RM50


Added on November 4, 2009, 10:40 pm
QUOTE(epalbee3 @ Nov 4 2009, 10:33 PM)
do you need to pay commission?
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of course need to pay commission lah
if not the brokers eat what?

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post Nov 4 2009, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Nov 4 2009, 10:39 PM)
I buy 1 month lah
i don't know how to play spread

1 index = RM50


Added on November 4, 2009, 10:40 pm
of course need to pay commission lah
if not the brokers eat what?
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so one future contract is RM60k?

you have so much money?
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post Nov 4 2009, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(shoduken @ Nov 4 2009, 06:53 PM)
come on all lowyat stock exchange forum let's party with time.. I will also que early in the morning.. my curse is gone!! time > lityan xD

i think tomolo will dump E&O transfer to time xD haha T+3 ting ting ting
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could be LIMIT UP for morning session!!
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post Nov 4 2009, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(mopster @ Nov 4 2009, 09:43 PM)
hmm i prefer Dow starts at 9.30pm...... 10.30pm is a bit late for me...  tongue.gif
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They had turn their clock an hour late.. just turn your watch/clock an hour late as well.. than all will be ok again
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post Nov 4 2009, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(epalbee3 @ Nov 4 2009, 10:44 PM)
so one future contract is RM60k?

you have so much money?
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1 contract = RM3500

I don't have so much money
am making more money
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post Nov 4 2009, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Nov 4 2009, 11:02 PM)
1 contract = RM3500

I don't have so much money
am making more money
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if one point = RM 50, then you loss and gain will be capped at 70 points right?

debbie yap, usually people start doing share first before moving to option then only futures..

why you do differently? smile.gif
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post Nov 4 2009, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(epalbee3 @ Nov 4 2009, 11:06 PM)
if one point = RM 50, then you loss and gain will be capped at 70 points right?

debbie yap, usually people start doing share first before moving to option then only futures..

why you do differently? smile.gif
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Rm3500 just to buy contract, unrealised loss will be on margin call already

why i do differently...good question...i explained many many times in this thread already rclxms.gif
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post Nov 4 2009, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(epalbee3 @ Nov 4 2009, 11:06 PM)
if one point = RM 50, then you loss and gain will be capped at 70 points right?


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There is no cap on gain and loss side, just you will face margin call (to top up for the loss) if the fall below the maintenance margin level.

Rm 3500 (which vary from time to time) is the initial margin one has to put in for owning the contract.

You can lose Rm35K with Rm3500 as starting point. Unlike stock, you put Rm3500, the max you lose is Rm3500, futures is unlimited.

For long side 1240 x 50 = Rm62K max you can lose,
For short, sky is the limit.

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post Nov 4 2009, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 4 2009, 11:16 PM)
There is no cap on gain and loss side, just you will face margin call (to top up for the loss) if the fall below the maintenance margin level.

Rm 3500 (which vary from time to time) is the initial margin one has to put in for owning the contract.

You can lose Rm35K with Rm3500 as starting point. Unlike stock, you put Rm3500, the max you lose is Rm3500, futures is unlimited.

For long side 1240 x 50 = Rm62K max you can lose,
For short, sky is the limit.
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what happens if I don't top up for the margin call?

Will the loss be limited?
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QUOTE(epalbee3 @ Nov 4 2009, 11:27 PM)
what happens if I don't top up for the margin call?

Will the loss be limited?
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Investment bank will force sell/buy your contract.
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post Nov 5 2009, 12:21 AM

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QUOTE(tessei @ Nov 4 2009, 10:45 PM)
could be LIMIT UP for morning session!!
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while everyone is so confident.. will it turn the other way? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 4 2009, 11:37 PM)
Investment bank will force sell/buy your contract.
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These kinds of derivatives are what got us into this mess in the first place. hmm.gif
Serve no economic purpose whatsoever - should be banned. nod.gif

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post Nov 5 2009, 01:11 AM

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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Nov 5 2009, 12:36 AM)
These kinds of derivatives are what got us into this mess in the first place. hmm.gif
Serve no economic purpose whatsoever - should be banned. nod.gif
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i think the better term would be unregulated derivatives are what got us into this mess.
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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Nov 5 2009, 01:11 AM)
i think the better term would be unregulated derivatives are what got us into this mess.
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Sure - pure semantics.

But recent history shows beyond a shadow of a doubt that it's only when we realise we are in a mess that we also come to see that unregulated instruments are the root cause.

I'm not a fan of regulation btw! icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(protonw @ Nov 5 2009, 08:11 AM)
DJIA +30(0.31%). So KLCI red?  hmm.gif
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Green because the govt says so. biggrin.gif
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post Nov 5 2009, 08:36 AM

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Q-ing Q-ing TIME ... anyone ?
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