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 NOKIA N97 V3!, Firmware v21 is available for updates!

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post Dec 22 2009, 12:39 AM

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QUOTE(Ezra86 @ Dec 21 2009, 08:36 PM)
i think you better just go NCC to update for u..
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Hmmm i update at NCC. Not really good. Coz previously i put silent mode, no vibrate then plus in handsfree sometime not working. After i reinstall it, everything seem fine. I think corrupted.

Seriously this phone is really great. Hang i think is normal. I think others phone also got this problem. Just that it cannot boot up if i restart the phone. Need to hard reset then restore back... troublesome..
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post Dec 22 2009, 01:24 AM

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but i dun think you can update anywhere else accept 3rd party softwares maybe..
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post Dec 22 2009, 01:34 AM

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QUOTE(PyOsE @ Dec 20 2009, 05:27 PM)
I had this problem..what i did was uninstall back any application that i installed last time and no more "Unable to install from memory card..." everytime i reboot..hope it helps
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Hi PyOsE,

Because I find it tedious to uninstall so many applications, I finally decided to do hard-reset and format the Mass Memory all at once.
No more "Installing..." issue.
I then restore only Msg, Contacts, Calendar, Bookmark, Notes, Settings.
The phone still hang at Nokia screen without warning after a few reboot (to test it).


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QUOTE(Ezra86 @ Dec 21 2009, 03:33 AM)
APPs I found (or think) gave me problems:
1) Windows Live Messenger
2) Boingo App Unistaller
3) Theoretically any app that changes the GUI or needs lots of RAM to start during reboot 
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Strangely, I did not have Windows Live Messenger installed before.
I even don't know what that Boingo App Uninstaller.
Am using the built-in default black theme with no customization.
The phone still hang on start-up! hmm.gif


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QUOTE(firstknight @ Dec 21 2009, 05:10 PM)
wel... drama of course.. imagine this....
If the phone hangs it can be rebooted or restart... well and good.... everything intact....
but if the phone hangs and when you reboot or restart... it is stuck at nokia white screen of death.... thats it.. hard reset and reinstall all the darn thing you used in your phone... that is time consuming.. not forgetting you are still using the phone.... half way using poof you have to wait 1/2 hour in order to get to use the phone.. thats the drama....
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Right, it's hard for us to do backup everyday.
Sometimes new and important SMS comes in,
sometimes just added new contact numbers etc...
If the phone hang, we're gone! The new data is gone!



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QUOTE(gzero @ Dec 21 2009, 06:17 PM)
i understand, but i did the same as well, i've been rebooting my phone regularly, not just because it hangs, but so that i can get a clean boot, it feel much snappier that way, especially after heavy browsing. just like rebooting pc once a while after few days without switching it off. but getting WSOD has never happened to me so far though *touch wood*
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Me too reboot the phone regularly to "refresh" it.
Really hard to live with a phone that I cannot reboot, what a joke?
If I go outstation for several days then if the phone acted strange,
I think I reboot it, but this reboot could be a lethal one~! laugh.gif



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Since last few days the phone hang at Nokia screen many times in a day and after my many attempts to reset and restore it.
It seems the problem still there as the phone hang again on Sunday morning when I try to power it up.
(I shut it down so it can rest overnight, but it won't wake up after that)

I then do hard reset again, but this time I restore my data as describe above but exclude "Settings".
Then I can start to abuse it by installing, rebooting etc...
So far it performed quite well, and even better in some points:

* Was having the issue with photo gallery. When enter to view a single picture in full screen, then I choose [Back], the entire gallery exit instead of go back to thumbnail view. This problem is gone!

* Was unable to choose MID file as alarm clock tone (only amr, mp3 were listed out), this problem is gone, I can now choose MID as alarm clock tone as well!

* The Facebook widget/application work faster than ever, it never run this smoothly since the first day I bought this phone!

Up to now, I guess my problem was due to restoring a corrupted "Settings" back to the phone, so the problem always still there and making me hard-reset the phone so many times in a day.
Also guess, the NSU's firmware update wasn't perfectly convert or treat the old settings from previous firmware.
Could be compatibility issue between the old and new firmware that Nokia did not sort out before publishing this v20 firmware (that's why we have problem only after v20 firmware update).

The phone works perfectly until now, but I really don't know when will it strikes again...
Just hope it won't happen at the moment that I need it the most~!


Added on December 22, 2009, 1:53 amUsually, after we've formatted the phone (drive C:), most, if not all application that were installed in drive E: still show up inside [Apps.] in the menu.
Does it due to the phone always scan for all memory storage (built-in 32GB, and MicroSD card, if we inserted) for installed application during booting up?

Actually I had an issue earlier:

After hard reset and formatted Mass Memory, I restore my Msg, Calendar, Notes, Bookmarks, Settings and reboot the phone.
Then I only realized that my "Gmail" application still in [Apps.] menu! hmm.gif

The application won't start, can't be uninstall (no reason given, just error), cannot install a new copy over it so that I can remove it later.
The icon just stuck there and I cannot uninstall it, run it, reinstall it~!

I then connect the phone in Mass Storage mode, go to the [Private] folder then find and delete all traces of the Gmail, reboot the phone...
Shockingly, Gmail still in the [Apps.] menu...! mad.gif
Meaning it is in my newly formatted drive C: ?

In my last hard-reset and restore my data without restoring the "Settings" option, the Gmail is gone. I can then install a new copy of this application.

This experience make me think, the "Settings" in our backup not really just some phone settings but certain application folder also included in the backup?



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QUOTE(G K Lai @ Dec 22 2009, 01:34 AM)
Hi PyOsE,

Because I find it tedious to uninstall so many applications, I finally decided to do hard-reset and format the Mass Memory all at once.
No more "Installing..." issue.
I then restore only Msg, Contacts, Calendar, Bookmark, Notes, Settings.
The phone still hang at Nokia screen without warning after a few reboot (to test it).


Added on

Strangely, I did not have Windows Live Messenger installed before.
I even don't know what that Boingo App Uninstaller.
Am using the built-in default black theme with no customization.
The phone still hang on start-up!  hmm.gif


Added on
Right, it's hard for us to do backup everyday.
Sometimes new and important SMS comes in,
sometimes just added new contact numbers etc...
If the phone hang, we're gone! The new data is gone!

Added on

Me too reboot the phone regularly to "refresh" it.
Really hard to live with a phone that I cannot reboot, what a joke?
If I go outstation for several days then if the phone acted strange,
I think I reboot it, but this reboot could be a lethal one~!  laugh.gif

Added on
Since last few days the phone hang at Nokia screen many times in a day and after my many attempts to reset and restore it.
It seems the problem still there as the phone hang again on Sunday morning when I try to power it up.
(I shut it down so it can rest overnight, but it won't wake up after that)

I then do hard reset again, but this time I restore my data as describe above but exclude "Settings".
Then I can start to abuse it by installing, rebooting etc...
So far it performed quite well, and even better in some points:

* Was having the issue with photo gallery. When enter to view a single picture in full screen, then I choose [Back], the entire gallery exit instead of go back to thumbnail view. This problem is gone!

* Was unable to choose MID file as alarm clock tone (only amr, mp3 were listed out), this problem is gone, I can now choose MID as alarm clock tone as well!

* The Facebook widget/application work faster than ever, it never run this smoothly since the first day I bought this phone!

Up to now, I guess my problem was due to restoring a corrupted "Settings" back to the phone, so the problem always still there and making me hard-reset the phone so many times in a day.
Also guess, the NSU's firmware update wasn't perfectly convert or treat the old settings from previous firmware.
Could be compatibility issue between the old and new firmware that Nokia did not sort out before publishing this v20 firmware (that's why we have problem only after v20 firmware update).

The phone works perfectly until now, but I really don't know when will it strikes again...
Just hope it won't happen at the moment that I need it the most~!


Added on December 22, 2009, 1:53 amUsually, after we've formatted the phone (drive C:), most, if not all application that were installed in drive E: still show up inside [Apps.] in the menu.
Does it due to the phone always scan for all memory storage (built-in 32GB, and MicroSD card, if we inserted) for installed application during booting up?

Actually I had an issue earlier:

After hard reset and formatted Mass Memory, I restore my Msg, Calendar, Notes, Bookmarks, Settings and reboot the phone.
Then I only realized that my "Gmail" application still in [Apps.] menu!  hmm.gif

The application won't start, can't be uninstall (no reason given, just error), cannot install a new copy over it so that I can remove it later.
The icon just stuck there and I cannot uninstall it, run it, reinstall it~!

I then connect the phone in Mass Storage mode, go to the [Private] folder then find and delete all traces of the Gmail, reboot the phone...
Shockingly, Gmail still in the [Apps.] menu...!  mad.gif
Meaning it is in my newly formatted drive C: ?

In my last hard-reset and restore my data without restoring the "Settings" option, the Gmail is gone. I can then install a new copy of this application.

This experience make me think, the "Settings" in our backup not really just some phone settings but certain application folder also included in the backup?
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wow...good writing here... biggrin.gif
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post Dec 22 2009, 02:41 AM

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the worst part is there is not one single 100% working formula to ensure this phone boots up everytime. its like any single problem could be a cause.. haiz...
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post Dec 22 2009, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(~funeralofheart~ @ Dec 22 2009, 02:28 AM)
wow...good writing here... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Ezra86 @ Dec 22 2009, 02:41 AM)
the worst part is there is not one single 100% working formula to ensure this phone boots up everytime. its like any single problem could be a cause.. haiz...
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So far mine is ok...

In case your phone stuck again (touch wood),
no harm you try hard-reset, format mass memory then do not restore your old Settings and see whether it helps? smile.gif


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post Dec 22 2009, 03:43 PM

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oh no no, so far mine (touch all the wood in the world is fine too) but b4 this it was hard reset almost every 2-4 days. somehow now its settled down by its self hehe
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my n97 white more chi gek..... i been sent my phone ot NCC for 1 weeks 2 days and the ppl still tell me under progress .... i send my phone due to after v20 upgrade MY GPS CANNOT CONNECT TO SATELLITE !! even i stand UNDER the clearSKY on a football field it show GPS WORK POORLY IN CLOSE AREA.... OMG and my sh!tty lens got scratched....
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going to buy N97 tmr........... white one........... after viewing so many problems.... i am still nt afraid!!!

becoz i am using the legendary most lag and faulty phone in NOKIA... N73!!!!!!!!!!

edi biasa with lag and faulty phn... N97 cant fear me.. xD
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QUOTE(tplus1 @ Dec 22 2009, 08:00 PM)
going to buy N97 tmr........... white one........... after viewing so many problems.... i am still nt afraid!!!

becoz i am using the legendary most lag and faulty phone in NOKIA... N73!!!!!!!!!!

edi biasa with lag and faulty phn... N97 cant fear me.. xD
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heeee
go to N86 white bro!!!
i just bought it today!!
nice..recommend phone...heee
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QUOTE(tplus1 @ Dec 22 2009, 08:00 PM)
going to buy N97 tmr........... white one........... after viewing so many problems.... i am still nt afraid!!!

becoz i am using the legendary most lag and faulty phone in NOKIA... N73!!!!!!!!!!

edi biasa with lag and faulty phn... N97 cant fear me.. xD
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i felt N73 is much fast than N97 in normal menu to menu. but for taking camera and view, n97 better.

i am now scared to installed many application la, just installed those needed. and need to backup day to day better if have time.

btw, is there any backup program that we can back up to the mass memory? so we are no nid to worry on backup to pc.
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For the white color N97, will the keypad turn yellow after a certain amount of usage?
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QUOTE(sayming @ Dec 22 2009, 11:35 PM)
For the white color N97, will the keypad turn yellow after a certain amount of usage?
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ya la...same question here....
is it will look yellowfish after used around 6 months?
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If everything goes right I shall be getting a white unit tomorrow in exchange for my Blackberry Curve tongue.gif

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QUOTE(lucky8 @ Dec 22 2009, 11:20 PM)
i am now scared to installed many application la, just installed those needed. and need to backup day to day better if have time.


Lol~! Me too, not dare to install anything more than i really need it~! laugh.gif


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btw, is there any backup program that we can back up to the mass memory? so we are no nid to worry on backup to pc.
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Use the built-in backup from File Manager, it will backup to your mass memory.
I use it more now, so that if I really need to hard-reset the phone while out of home,
I can still have a copy to restore. shakehead.gif

But no matter you use the phone's backup program or PC Suite/Ovi Suite,
after the backup, you have to go to Messaging to change your storage back
to E: drive (unless you choose to use Phone memory to store all your msg).


Added on

Does anyone been able to run CIMB mobile banking application in N97?
I tried but no luck, it cannot enter text, so can't login.
Wish this is not *only my phone* problem~! blush.gif


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post Dec 23 2009, 03:19 PM

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For those new N97 users, u guys should install this game, DANCE FABULOUS...really perfect for N97...ohh can play your own MP3 too..cool huh icon_idea.gif

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QUOTE(PyOsE @ Dec 23 2009, 03:19 PM)
For those new N97 users, u guys should install this game, DANCE FABULOUS...really perfect for N97...ohh can play your own MP3 too..cool huh  icon_idea.gif

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wow
feel nice la bro...is it trial one ah bro?
TUBE oso can support rite??
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i have installed the full version one... and yeah TUBE can also play this smile.gif
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QUOTE(~funeralofheart~ @ Dec 22 2009, 11:59 PM)
ya la...same question here....
is it will look yellowfish after used around 6 months?
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just help you clear out ur question la =D mine is white , no doubt Dpad will turn yellowish easily but not key =D i been using it for 1 month now =D so far so good... but Dpad like turning yellowish
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QUOTE(PyOsE @ Dec 23 2009, 04:23 PM)
i have installed the full version one... and yeah TUBE can also play this smile.gif
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can possible gv us the link download full version brows.gif

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