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havocx
post Oct 25 2009, 11:15 PM, updated 17y ago

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Ive never complained about the transactions ive done with other sellers on this forum.
This is by far the worst i have ever come across and my first dispute that i had needed to raise. Its a shame indeed.

Seller may have done successful sales in the past but his current conduct, thats very much wanting indeed. mad.gif

Forumer you are complaining against:

caerulln also known as Khairul Anwar
Email Address : CAERULLN@GMAIL.COM and anwar87@gmail.com. Also linked at kh.anwar87@gmail.com.
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Item being sold/bought: 2 Dresses From [12th BULK] Caerulln Community Service USA Purchase
Items amounting to about RM337.22

Dress 1
Colour Teal
Size M

Dress 2
Colour Red
Size M

Original thread link:
[12th BULK] Caerulln Community Service USA Purchase

Date of transaction:
Jul 20 2009, 02:25 PM


Details of the complaint :

Khairul or caerulln here runs a service running Bulk Purchases from US to Malaysia to combine on shipping to make it cheaper and easier for the folks here to receive items from the states. He seems to have been doing and running the bulk well so far and had little or no problems on his previous bulks except for this apparent last one. On the dates above Ive paid a total of RM756.33 for two items i ordered from Newegg and 2 more ordered for the Mrs. at home. By Sept 5th my items had arrived. This is almost 40days since payment was completed to caerulln and patiently waiting for the items to arrive.

During this time, some calls and sms were made to the number 012-2987014 but had no response. No responses on emails as well. Only on Sept 5th 2 sms came in, to inform me my items had arrived and I am to collect the item at the Universiti Putra LRT Station. On collection it was found that my wife's clothes were not included in the shipment. On my inquiry Khairul promised that these items will be in the next last shipment.

And wait i did until today. Almost 3 months of waiting for empty promises and no responses.And it looks to be that im not the only one in the same boat.
Seller continuously come into the forum without bothering to reply in his thread. Only once offering an apology and leaving it at that.

Khairul,
I dont understand this, daily you come in to log on and presumably surf the forums whilst many of us who are in the bulk are awaiting for your response.
You are busy, well arent all of us ?
You dropped in, and we were glad and perhaps placid when you presented us with your apologies but while all that you still fail to respond to any of our requests.
You ask for folks to mail you since your PM is full. Why not empty your PM's and allow us to PM you ? Or are you too busy for that?

I assume you have those PM's to keep the phone numbers of your buyers. Well, mine is 0123200615, im putting it right out here, why not if you had problems
with your email and PM, and lowyat account, you call me to arrange the delivery of my pending items. Its right out here, you can easily SMS and check even without
logging on to your Lowyat account. Just search for user caerulln and topics. You'll find your own topic and look at it to find my contact if its too difficult for you to find it.

You gave me and i guess most of the folks your contact number 012-2987014 for us to contact you.
Not once has this phone been answered other than my first SMS which was one month before raya.
After that all the calls go unanswered to this number.
Please provide a proper contact number!

There is also no response on your gmail.
You ask us to mail you at CAERULLN@GMAIL.COM but do you reply to these ?
What is stopping you from either sending us an sms, or giving us a call or replying our mail or PM's when you can daily come in to check on the forum.
Please respond to these queries and update me and the others here on our items.
Terrible conduct as a seller you have. Please be more responsible.

We paid for your service, I for one expect a response, immediately.

Update on the issue.

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This post has been edited by havocx: Oct 28 2009, 01:23 PM
ramp
post Oct 25 2009, 11:36 PM

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Sad n sorry for u story bro,
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Tis caerulln make ppl trouble,

shameful

This post has been edited by ramp: Oct 25 2009, 11:37 PM
caerulln
post Oct 26 2009, 12:19 AM

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I'm sorry for all the delays.
I explained a little in my original thread.
I'm extremely busy right now - reason for stopping the service.
I will not be able to post a lot other than reply emails.
I will & need to settle all these asap.
Thanks.
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post Oct 26 2009, 01:02 AM

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future dentist will scam too?
havocx
post Oct 26 2009, 09:08 AM

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Thanks for the reply folks. Here's an update.
I received a response from Khairul last night via email. Im making arrangements to meet him at University LRT Station Tuesday night.
Im still not pleased sadly. Khairul reasons and explained below in his email.

# Possible to meet at any Putra Stations in his thread - Yet Ill be making way from Cyberjaya to meet @ University LRT Station when in his thread he mentioned its possible to COD at any station.

# Usually not able to answer calls. He mentioned that he usually would not be able to answer calls. He never answer calls. Though I respect that as a privacy measure, but to not reply or answer any calls or SMS to the number does not make the number a credible number.

# Communication is best through email. Yesterday night was the best response I ever had in my 3 months of waiting. One mail in succession of another. Awesome progress seing in the 3 months and 11 mails ive sent to him, ive received a total of 3 responses. Two from yesterday alone! Ive sent him another mail this morning, let see if it goes through.

#Again, my presence online now is only for emails. If I logged in into LYN, that usually is my bro. Exact line from his email reply. Now, even if its a shared computer, there is no reason for your lil brother to be using your account as you can log out from the forums and let your little brother surf within using his own ID. If he is just surfing and not posting, there is no reason you needed to be logged on anyway.

#PM is still full. Whats that about ? If your lil brother uses your account, just a simple Delete all message would free up your PM Box again.


Im hoping you'll come through for Tuesday night. Already im spending way too much of my time in looking after my stuff when it should be you who updates me on the progress. But then again, I may not be as super busy as you. I have waaay too much free time on my hands.

Yeah right.


This post has been edited by havocx: Oct 26 2009, 09:14 AM
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post Oct 26 2009, 03:28 PM

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i believe the seller has a great responsibility here. rather than saying out loud that I HAVE NO TIME, then how do you have the time to even make any commitment over here? if you think you cannot satisfy any of your prospective customers, pls lah not worth if you open up a thread and take people's money and let them be on the limbo awaiting your reply like slaves. i believe your T&C was to pay upfront before you make the purchase? TS has paid and done his part of the responsibility, where's yours? looking at your thread and with that many bulks that you have done, can't you even sacrifice 1hour of your time to give your customers updated on the status of their orders? too much to ask? if it is, then i hope sellers like you do not emerge anymore in LYN. fake promises and mulling over something that you owe me is the last thing i would ever want.
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post Oct 26 2009, 05:37 PM

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Will see what happen,

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post Oct 26 2009, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(underzoom @ Oct 26 2009, 03:28 PM)
i believe the seller has a great responsibility here. rather than saying out loud that I HAVE NO TIME, then how do you have the time to even make any commitment over here? if you think you cannot satisfy any of your prospective customers, pls lah not worth if you open up a thread and take people's money and let them be on the limbo awaiting your reply like slaves. i believe your T&C was to pay upfront before you make the purchase? TS has paid and done his part of the responsibility, where's yours? looking at your thread and with that many bulks that you have done, can't you even sacrifice 1hour of your time to give your customers updated on the status of their orders? too much to ask? if it is, then i hope sellers like you do not emerge anymore in LYN. fake promises and mulling over something that you owe me is the last thing i would ever want.
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thats why i'm stopping the bulk
I dont make profits anyway.
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post Oct 26 2009, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(caerulln @ Oct 26 2009, 07:18 PM)
thats why i'm stopping the bulk
I dont make profits anyway.
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Make it easily bro,however ,this time might be your last bulk,why don make completely deal?All the things We just want to know is how about the status about our item and when we can receive the things...
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post Oct 26 2009, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(caerulln @ Oct 26 2009, 07:18 PM)
thats why i'm stopping the bulk
I dont make profits anyway.
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And as per the post right after that post above shows the sentiments we all feel.
Right now, it looks like I am the one who has to do ALL the WORK in getting my stuff even though Ive already paid for it.

You mailed me yesterday that you can meet any day at University Putra Station after 6pm.
Ive replied that mail saying we will be meeting tommorow.
You have yet to respond to that email to confirm on the meet.
I am the one who has to make travel arrangements to come and see you.
Even after waiting for 3 months.
I am the one who has to chase after you ?
Your number is still not contactable.
Perhaps if youre too busy I should be contacting your other email address and other phone number ?
When am i getting my items ?
When are the others getting theirs ?

I do not see the point of you pointing out that youre stopping the bulk because youre too busy and not making a profit.
The fact that this bulk helped you in getting your items cheaper, thats the profit already.
The fact that someone like me have to wait 3 months to get an item, to spend time researching about you is a great waste and loss of my time.
You'd like to get the issue settled ? Then work on settling the issue and not just come in with randomized postings about how sorry you are and how you'd like to make it better.

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post Oct 26 2009, 08:46 PM

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Ya ke that
Reason

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post Oct 26 2009, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(Windcent @ Oct 26 2009, 07:49 PM)
Make it easily bro,however ,this time might be your last bulk,why don make completely deal?All the things We just want to know is how about the status about our item and when we can receive the things...
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shipped your items.
hopefully will arrive tomorrow.
U can pay later smile.gif

QUOTE(havocx @ Oct 26 2009, 08:03 PM)


And as per the post right after that post above shows the sentiments we all feel.
Right now, it looks like I am the one who has to do ALL the WORK in getting my stuff even though Ive already paid for it.

You mailed me yesterday that you can meet any day at University Putra Station after 6pm.
Ive replied that mail saying we will be meeting tommorow.
You have yet to respond to that email to confirm on the meet.
I am the one who has to make travel arrangements to come and see you.
Even after waiting for 3 months.
I am the one who has to chase after you ?
Your number is still not contactable.
Perhaps if youre too busy I should be contacting your other email address and other phone number ?
When am i getting my items ?
When are the others getting theirs ?

I do not see the point of you pointing out that youre stopping the bulk because youre too busy and not making a profit.
The fact that this bulk helped you in getting your items cheaper, thats the profit already.
The fact that someone like me have to wait 3 months to get an item, to spend time researching about you is a great waste and loss of my time.
You'd like to get the issue settled ? Then work on settling the issue and not just come in with randomized postings about how sorry you are and how you'd like to make it better.

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I don't have to explain any further.
I already admit it is my fault for being a busy student.
I understand if u are mad at me.
& i do understand if anyone is having a hard time understanding how busy we are.
I am working to settle this. Didn't i email u that i can meet after 6pm today & u were unavailable?
Tomorrow should be ok.

Btw, if sorry isn't enough, I can't offer anything better.
Trying to settle all these.
Those who need me to poslaju their stuffs should get them in a few days.
I still haven't had time to calculate the fees but u guys can pay once u receive them

ps. I hope this is not another one of my random postings tongue.gif
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post Oct 26 2009, 11:12 PM

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& btw, do remove links to my personal things.
i noticed that just now.

I WAS OK THAT U CREATE THIS THREAD. TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT. POSTING MY PERSONAL PICTURE & STUFF, THAT CROSSES A LINE.
REMOVE THEM.
I'M PISSED NOW.
I SEE YOU TOMORROW.


Added on October 26, 2009, 11:16 pmYou posted my girlfriends details?!!!
FINE.
U TOTALLY CROSSED THE LINE.
U DID THAT & U DARE MEETING ME TOMORROW?

GREAT SAFE TRADER!

This post has been edited by caerulln: Oct 26 2009, 11:16 PM
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post Oct 26 2009, 11:16 PM

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You posted my girlfriends details?!!!
FINE.
U TOTALLY CROSSED THE LINE.
U DID THAT & U DARE MEETING ME TOMORROW?

GREAT SAFE TRADER!
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post Oct 26 2009, 11:33 PM

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Alright. This may appear as spam posting.
But just shows how pissed I am.
I DON'T CARE WHATSOEVER IF U WERE GOING TO POST MY DETAILS, ADDRESS, EMAIL, PHONE NUMBER, WHATEVER!

U don't.
I mean, YOU, NOBODY, involve ANYONE related to me in my mess.
This is my mess. Deal with ME.

It won't be nice if I involve your wife in, will it?


This is specifically to you & you only. Not to my other buyers. :
I AM NOT SORRY ANYMORE FOR BEING UNINTENTIONALLY LATE.

To other buyers other than havocx, I'm still very very really sorry..

I said that I only go to any PUTRA lrt stations right?
Screw that. The station that u want me to go to is STAR station.
MEET ME THERE. Tomorrow night.
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post Oct 26 2009, 11:35 PM

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Thanks for removing the details.
Sorry if i woke u up.
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post Oct 26 2009, 11:36 PM

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So that took the cake. Finally some action and a threatening one at that ?
I crossed the line ? I crossed the line?
Think again buddy.

What crosses the line is making someone wait for 3 months waiting for nothing from you.
Even with your postings, you come in nonchalantly without so much of a bother in making amends.
When you do, I have to follow your whims and fancy? You make meeting today a big deal without prior arrangements.
Other people are busy as well.

So please, dont come threatening me like its all my fault. 3 months of waiting and agonizing, the RM332 is basically a write off for me.
Out of a final chance I am removing those information, I have even more photos and details to which Ill keep until the deal is completed.
If you have your links, I have mine to, so again, dont come in blasting your guns like I was asking for it.

I am not accepting your apology though I would like the issue to be settled amicably.
Remember its me who had to wait 3 months.
Its me who has to come down all the way from Cyberjaya.
Its me who paid YOU ahead RM300+ to get something from me, from which YOU saved on your OWN items shipping.

So yes I will meet you tommorow.


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QUOTE(havocx @ Oct 26 2009, 11:36 PM)
So that took the cake. Finally some action and a threatening one at that ?
I crossed the line ? I crossed the line?
Think again buddy.

What crosses the line is making someone wait for 3 months waiting for nothing from you.
Even with your postings, you come in nonchalantly without so much of a bother in making amends.
When you do, I have to follow your whims and fancy? You make meeting today a big deal without prior arrangements.
Other people are busy as well.

So please, dont come threatening me like its all my fault. 3 months of waiting and agonizing, the RM332 is basically a write off for me.
Out of a final chance I am removing those information, I have even more photos and details to which Ill keep until the deal is completed.
If you have your links, I have mine to, so again, dont come in blasting your guns like I was asking for it.

I am not accepting your apology though I would like the issue to be settled amicably.
Remember its me who had to wait 3 months.
Its me who has to come down all the way from Cyberjaya.
Its me who paid YOU ahead RM300+ to get something from me, from which YOU saved on your OWN items shipping.

So yes I will meet you tommorow.

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What ts said is quite true. As a seller you must be responsible furthermore you collected money. Excuses such as studying is unacceptable if studies is important finish it first before trading. 3months anything can happen if me i also assume seller ran off already.

You can just give a note or sms to your buyer of the status. I dont see any problem for him posting your details AFTER 3 months. You say 1 week or 3 weeks or worse 1 month is acceptable

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QUOTE(caerulln @ Oct 26 2009, 11:16 PM)
You posted my girlfriends details?!!!
FINE.
U TOTALLY CROSSED THE LINE.
U DID THAT & U DARE MEETING ME TOMORROW?

GREAT SAFE TRADER!
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i wouldn't endorse TS's action directly as i too admit that it was unethical of him to do that.

however given such circumstances, at least that got your attention focussed to this issue permanently.

seriously 3 months is too long, especially for a student; that is like almost equivalent to an entire semester (excluding breaks)
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QUOTE(caerulln @ Oct 26 2009, 11:33 PM)
Alright. This may appear as spam posting.
But just shows how pissed I am.
I DON'T CARE WHATSOEVER IF U WERE GOING TO POST MY DETAILS, ADDRESS, EMAIL, PHONE NUMBER, WHATEVER!

U don't.
I mean, YOU, NOBODY, involve ANYONE related to me in my mess.
This is my mess. Deal with ME.

It won't be nice if I involve your wife in, will it?
This is specifically to you & you only. Not to my other buyers. :
I AM NOT SORRY ANYMORE FOR BEING UNINTENTIONALLY LATE.

To other buyers other than havocx, I'm still very very really sorry..

I said that I only go to any PUTRA lrt stations right?
Screw that. The station that u want me to go to is STAR station.
MEET ME THERE. Tomorrow night.
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No it wont be nice of course, but what will it for someone to actually proceed to ensure that they get whats rightfully theirs.
I have waited patiently enough. I stopped being patient. And that actually got some attention from you which was what I wanted.
I dont mind removing the links.

Dealing with you my friend is easier said and done. You dont answer your calls.
Up to now, finally its 4 sms from you i received versus the 30 i sent, all of which is still in my Iphone i might add.
You never answer your phone.
Out of all the emails i sent you only 6 got replied, 4 of which in the past two days out of the 30 days wait.
Your PM in Lowyat is full.

So what do i have to COMPEL you to come out. Those postings did.
I thought long and hard before I proceeded on those. Remember, I for one has no other way and choice to get you to Respond.


Understanding that makes my posting suddenly seems to be at least for me the right way to proceed.
I have removed those. I will keep the others that I have until we can complete the transaction.

QUOTE(caerulln @ Oct 26 2009, 11:35 PM)
Thanks for removing the details.
Sorry if i woke u up.
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I sleep late. Its okay.
Id like to complete the transaction. It has gone sour of sorts but if its completed properly, Ill remove the rest of the details.
My first thanks to you for finally actually showing that you want to complete the transaction.


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