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> Dispute Raised Against caerulln, Irresponsible Seller Possible Scammer

caerulln
post Oct 26 2009, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(havocx @ Oct 26 2009, 11:36 PM)
So that took the cake. Finally some action and a threatening one at that ?
I crossed the line ? I crossed the line?
Think again buddy.

What crosses the line is making someone wait for 3 months waiting for nothing from you.
Even with your postings, you come in nonchalantly without so much of a bother in making amends.
When you do, I have to follow your whims and fancy? You make meeting today a big deal without prior arrangements.
Other people are busy as well.

So please, dont come threatening me like its all my fault. 3 months of waiting and agonizing, the RM332 is basically a write off for me.
Out of a final chance I am removing those information, I have even more photos and details to which Ill keep until the deal is completed.
If you have your links, I have mine to, so again, dont come in blasting your guns like I was asking for it.

I am not accepting your apology though I would like the issue to be settled amicably.
Remember its me who had to wait 3 months.
Its me who has to come down all the way from Cyberjaya.
Its me who paid YOU ahead RM300+ to get something from me, from which YOU saved on your OWN items shipping.

So yes I will meet you tommorow.

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Like i said..I was sorry for the delay.
It was totally unintentional.

& no. I did not start the threatening.
What other possible reason could it be for posting details of my gf??

Post my address. Many people knows. Just check the poslaju slip & my address is there.
& no. That is not a fake address. Some guys came personally to my house to pick their stuff. Look for them.
So u guys can come bash me if i scam anyone.
But NOT details of anyone related to me.

Yes I crossed the line by being so late. That is why I understand if any of u are mad at me (damn I'm explaining this again..)
I'm not angry for those who did not understand my situation coz I totally understand why u guys are mad at me.
Until I saw those details of my gf u posted.

Damage is done.
Whatever.
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post Oct 26 2009, 11:47 PM

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if all this prob still on pending list after this,just make a police report..........................
caerulln
post Oct 26 2009, 11:51 PM

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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Oct 26 2009, 11:39 PM)
What ts said is quite true. As a seller you must be responsible furthermore you collected money. Excuses such as studying is unacceptable if studies is important finish it first before trading. 3months anything can happen if me i also assume seller ran off already.

You can just give a note or sms to your buyer of the status. I dont see any problem for him posting your details AFTER 3 months. You say 1 week or 3 weeks or worse 1 month is acceptable
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Non-understanding forumer detected smile.gif
Its ok. I don't expect anyone to understand.
It is more complicated than what i explained.

No problem posting my details.
No need to remove them.
BUT NOT ANYONE RELATED TO ME. That amounts to threat.

QUOTE(nokia2003 @ Oct 26 2009, 11:43 PM)
i wouldn't endorse TS's action directly as i too admit that it was unethical of him to do that.

however given such circumstances, at least that got your attention focussed to this issue permanently.

seriously 3 months is too long, especially for a student; that is like almost equivalent to an entire semester (excluding breaks)
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Agreed. Too long is an understatement.
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post Oct 26 2009, 11:51 PM

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QUOTE(kunyit_kampung @ Oct 26 2009, 11:47 PM)
if all this prob still on pending list after this,just make a police report..........................
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Agreed as well smile.gif
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post Oct 26 2009, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(caerulln @ Oct 26 2009, 11:47 PM)
Post my address. Many people knows. Just check the poslaju slip & my address is there.
& no. That is not a fake address. Some guys came personally to my house to pick their stuff. Look for them.
So u guys can come bash me if i scam anyone.
But NOT details of anyone related to me.

Yes I crossed the line by being so late. That is why I understand if any of u are mad at me (damn I'm explaining this again..)
I'm not angry for those who did not understand my situation coz I totally understand why u guys are mad at me.
Until I saw those details of my gf u posted.

Damage is done.
Whatever.
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Right, how about that, guess what, thats the only thing thats still pending from the other contacts Im waiting for.
Had I known your address of course Ill make my way there.

Please open your mind and read again.
Dealing with you my friend is easier said and done. You dont answer your calls.
Up to now, finally its 4 sms from you i received versus the 30 i sent, all of which is still in my Iphone i might add.
You never answer your phone.
Out of all the emails i sent you only 6 got replied, 4 of which in the past two days out of the 30 days wait.
Your PM in Lowyat is full.

So what do i have to COMPEL you to come out. Those postings did.
I thought long and hard before I proceeded on those. Remember, I for one has no other way and choice to get you to Respond.


So dont you come writing in Whatever here.
I did not start this war. I have asked you to reply and respond.
And wait was all i got from you?

I have posted those details compeling you to come out.
I have removed those when you came out.
We have agreed to meet tommorow. Lets Iron out the issue then.
If you want to make the issue an all out war when we meet tommorow, its also fine by me.

Remember, I want to complete the transaction amicably. Lets see you meet me at that juncture tommorow.

caerulln
post Oct 27 2009, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(havocx @ Oct 26 2009, 11:56 PM)


Right, how about that, guess what, thats the only thing thats still pending from the other contacts Im waiting for.
Had I known your address of course Ill make my way there.

Please open your mind and read again.
Dealing with you my friend is easier said and done. You dont answer your calls.
Up to now, finally its 4 sms from you i received versus the 30 i sent, all of which is still in my Iphone i might add.
You never answer your phone.
Out of all the emails i sent you only 6 got replied, 4 of which in the past two days out of the 30 days wait.
Your PM in Lowyat is full.

So what do i have to COMPEL you to come out. Those postings did.
I thought long and hard before I proceeded on those. Remember, I for one has no other way and choice to get you to Respond.


So dont you come writing in Whatever here.
I did not start this war. I have asked you to reply and respond.
And wait was all i got from you?

I have posted those details compeling you to come out.
I have removed those when you came out.
We have agreed to meet tommorow. Lets Iron out the issue then.
If you want to make the issue an all out war when we meet tommorow, its also fine by me.

Remember, I want to complete the transaction amicably. Lets see you meet me at that juncture tommorow.

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Another non-understanding forumer. (its ok)
Yes that definitely compelled me out as I had to cancel a very important meeting just for this.
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post Oct 27 2009, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(caerulln @ Oct 27 2009, 12:00 AM)
Another non-understanding forumer. (its ok)
Yes that definitely compelled me out as I had to cancel a very important meeting just for this.
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Non understanding ??? Me. Right.

Geez buddy, youre now starting to get on my nerves.
I said amicably. Dont start flaming the fires.


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post Oct 27 2009, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(havocx @ Oct 27 2009, 12:03 AM)



Non understanding ??? Me. Right.

Geez buddy, youre now starting to get on my nerves.
I said amicably. Dont start flaming the fires.

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No.
I mean u don't understand how busy I am.
Those who understand..well..understands this after I explained.

Those who don't, will definitely get mad. eg. you.
Which is fine to me.
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post Oct 27 2009, 12:10 AM

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QUOTE(caerulln @ Oct 26 2009, 11:51 PM)
Non-understanding forumer detected smile.gif
Its ok. I don't expect anyone to understand.
It is more complicated than what i explained.

No problem posting my details.
No need to remove them.
BUT NOT ANYONE RELATED TO ME. That amounts to threat.
Agreed. Too long is an understatement.
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You are joking? You are a seller you are suppose to understand the buyer not the buyer understands u. If MCD, KFC, PIZZA HUT and all the huge restaurant say you are non understanding customer pls buzz off they already close down everywhere. Why MCD so successful because they provide what customer needs and satisfaction. Imagine u go MCD and line an hour yours is 3 months do u think the customer is piss. Then the MCD staff come say Non understanding buyer detected. I dont expect anyone to understand us. Its more complicated than what in explained. What do you think the customer will do?

Welcome to reality. The world dont stop or turn base on your command. It turn how it wants to be whether u are on it or left out.


Added on October 27, 2009, 12:12 am
QUOTE(caerulln @ Oct 27 2009, 12:07 AM)
No.
I mean u don't understand how busy I am.
Those who understand..well..understands this after I explained.

Those who don't, will definitely get mad. eg. you.
Which is fine to me.
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so if future i am busy i can ignore all my customer? Let them wait 3 months then after u see a dispute appear i am busy la i got studies. Talk some sense mate.

Since trading more important why dont u go to your school/college board and say Non-understanding teachers detected. Its ok i dont expect anyone to understand. It is more complicated than what i explained then skip college for 3months to trade. Then come back and say the above. Then ask to resit the paper? Do you think they let u resit with the above reason for free?

For not informing your customer you are already being not responsible.

This post has been edited by aspire2oo6: Oct 27 2009, 12:16 AM
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post Oct 27 2009, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(caerulln @ Oct 27 2009, 12:07 AM)
No.
I mean u don't understand how busy I am.
Those who understand..well..understands this after I explained.

Those who don't, will definitely get mad. eg. you.
Which is fine to me.
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Okay buddy. Lets stop this and not let this get the better of us.
Youre busy and I am busy too. Its been 2 weeks straight that i put in 15 hour workdays finishing this project im handling.
Thats the reason im still up right now, though browsing the forums is not something which i should be doing.

Im busy in my own way and yes would not understand how busy you are.
But then again I dont have to understand how busy you are nor have to accept how busy you are.
Its the non getting back to me that was the final straw. I was very patient. A whole month even not sending you SMS or emails.
But that doesnt mean it absolves you the responsibility as a seller.

So okay mate. We'll meet to tommorow and hopefully Ill get to close this dispute thread and removing the remaining details posted up there.
I need to get back to my pending project and im sure youre still pretty busy too.
Good night.

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post Oct 27 2009, 12:16 AM

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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Oct 27 2009, 12:10 AM)
You are joking? You are a seller you are suppose to understand the buyer not the buyer understands u. If MCD, KFC, PIZZA HUT and all the huge restaurant say you are non understanding customer pls buzz off they already close down everywhere. Why MCD so successful because they provide what customer needs and satisfaction. Imagine u go MCD and line an hour yours is 3 months do u think the customer is piss. Then the MCD staff come say  Non understanding buyer detected. I dont expect anyone to understand us. Its more complicated than what in explained. What do you think the customer will do?

Welcome to reality. The world dont stop or turn base on your command. It turn how it wants to be whether u are on it or left out.


Added on October 27, 2009, 12:12 am

so if future i am busy i can ignore all my customer? Let them wait 3 months then after u see a dispute appear i am busy la i got studies. Talk some sense mate.

Since trading more important why dont u go to your school/college board and say Non-understanding teachers detected. Its ok i dont expect anyone to understand. It is more complicated than what i explained then skip college for 3months. Then come back and say the above. Then ask to resit the paper?

For not informing your customer you are already being not responsible.
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Ignoring you..sorry.
I explained already.
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post Oct 27 2009, 12:17 AM

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Since TS settle ill stop. Dont think in the entire world you are only person busy we are all so free sitting at home sleeping doing nothing?

All those ppl working,have high scholarship, Government official are free and u special case only busy. I like your reason. notworthy.gif

its your problem ignoring but ill warn your client in future to prevent them to be in hot soup like TS. I dislike excuses giver ppl

This post has been edited by aspire2oo6: Oct 27 2009, 12:18 AM
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post Oct 27 2009, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(havocx @ Oct 27 2009, 12:15 AM)


Okay buddy. Lets stop this and not let this get the better of us.
Youre busy and I am busy too. Its been 2 weeks straight that i put in 15 hour workdays finishing this project im handling.
Thats the reason im still up right now, though browsing the forums is not something which i should be doing.

Im busy in my own way and yes would not understand how busy you are.
But then again I dont have to understand how busy you are nor have to accept how busy you are.
Its the non getting back to me that was the final straw. I was very patient. A whole month even not sending you SMS or emails.
But that doesnt mean it absolves you the responsibility as a seller.

So okay mate. We'll meet to tommorow and hopefully Ill get to close this dispute thread and removing the remaining details posted up there.
I need to get back to my pending project and im sure youre still pretty busy too.
Good night.

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yup.
You guys DO NOT have to understand.
That is why I accept the fact that u guys are angry at me.
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post Oct 27 2009, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Oct 27 2009, 12:17 AM)
Since TS settle ill stop. Dont think in the entire world you are only person busy we are all so free sitting at home sleeping doing nothing?

All those ppl working,have high scholarship, Government official are free and u special case only busy. I like your reason.  notworthy.gif
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Yup.
I am that special.
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post Oct 27 2009, 12:24 AM

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& just to satisfy some of u,
the delay i caused is TOTALLY INEXCUSABLE.
tiada maaf bagiku.
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post Oct 27 2009, 12:38 AM

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Okay...you accepting your fault is commendable bro...just that I think you should stop your bulk for a while unless you are sure can commit with your buyers. Waiting for 3 months is really really awful especially if you don't keep your buyers updated whistling.gif
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post Oct 27 2009, 12:53 AM

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QUOTE(svage98 @ Oct 27 2009, 12:38 AM)
Okay...you accepting your fault is commendable bro...just that I think you should stop your bulk for a while unless you are sure can commit with your buyers.  Waiting for 3 months is really really awful especially if you don't keep your buyers updated  whistling.gif
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Very true. Make ppl wait then trying to make himself look right? Then dare to say ppl step over his line? What about other ppl?
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post Oct 27 2009, 04:28 AM

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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Oct 27 2009, 12:53 AM)
Very true. Make ppl wait then trying to make himself look right? Then dare to say ppl step over his line? What about other ppl?
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in trading world , customers always right when it comes to delays of shipment. (unless under special circumstances)
there is no need to give any excuse.
just my 2 cents


thanks .
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post Oct 27 2009, 07:50 AM

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sikit2 nak bertumbuk caerulln blink.gif .. u should take care about your customer heart 1st even you are a student.. don't be like a j e r k that in my case.. you should show your professionalism in trading..

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QUOTE(caerulln @ Oct 27 2009, 12:00 AM)
Another non-understanding forumer. (its ok)
Yes that definitely compelled me out as I had to cancel a very important meeting just for this.
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i hope your meeting is not with any of our ex or current prime minister...takut urusan negara x jalan pulak...
i'm a father, an employer, a partimer in one the local u and damn sure im not as busy as u mate.... whistling.gif

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