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mrchipsley
post May 27 2012, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(shaquenator @ May 26 2012, 02:26 PM)

Added on May 26, 2012, 6:40 pm

cool2.gif you've been very kind with your words. so, did you "see" what it means by dirty ? it's basically a malay area place...so, it's dirty from the entrance, up until you go up the unit, right ? when you sit the lift also a bit shaky right ? then when you go to the back of the car park you saw the back of the building dirty because of the food stalls all also throw their "shit" at the back right ? and when you go along the corridors, you notice the door is very narrow right ?  and the list goes on....now you believe those who critise ?

tell you something, not even putting rm150K, some of the owners even believe their units can fetch up to rm300K. i was actually laughing out myself....what happen to people's common sense these days ? and what's ironic, the agent is also agree with me(at the back lah), as we all woman mah, so she told me the truth.
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ya, those owners are greedy. there's a saying that goes, the money that you got through such ways is used to treat your diseases in future. sometimes, as a human, we shouldnt be too much. but sometimes cant help lah some of these kind of people. it really shows how their real heart is.

to be very honest, those investors may keep saying for taylor's colleage or got theme park, but what they dont realize is the moment you pass by the Flora Damansara gate, it is a community of it's own. and when you go in, you can feel it is a low cost area already, especially at the lower end there at block A & B. if you got that kind of feeling, dont need to even go up further lah....it's already make people felt "dirty" and "insecure"....only desperate people live here.

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post May 27 2012, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(lilac @ May 27 2012, 10:24 AM)
I really don't get what kind of grudge you have with the place but it's really not that bad (This has already been argued over and over again). I think this is one of the things we have to agree to disagree.

I understand from your point of view that the property NOW is far from ideal, however looking at Flora Damansara it has hope for improvements and that is what people are investing in the place for. Of course you would not see the shift overnight but it is only a normal process for prices to hike when more investors starts to invest in the place.

Btw, that entrance will also be the entrance for Forest Hill Damansara (semi-ds) which will be build at the end of low cost flats.

Anyway.. just what I notice and my 0.5 cents.
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actually it's not even a grudge. it is called the truth. the property now is not just not ideal, it is a low-class & dirty area, and that's an opinion. Maybe after seeing me say this, you might felt hurt(again, Ive been to this place before this year, so Im not simply saying things) it is normal process for place to hike when more investors starts to invest ?

oh man, then those investors must be blind.
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post May 27 2012, 11:01 PM

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post May 28 2012, 09:40 PM

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im not harping on it, im just replying those people's post MR THX.

since you yourself also sell it at a loss, what makes you even think this place will improve ? do you even think it's easy to change the malay in block A & B ? this place is the most suitable to rent to foreigners, malay, indians...besides, im telling the truth. why are you being so "cant tahan" me say all this things ? it's not that Im lying or anything. in fact, some of them even go there and see it, and admit it....come on.

about the appreciate of price thing, I think it's the residents themselves who think of revising the price themselves, not everyone agree to that(thinking price will appreciate but how can you even appreciate with this kind of property? doh.gif this place has location in a wrong place). and it's hard to change people when majority are foreigners. if you again disagree with me, wait till all the developments are up and you see for yourself. it wont help, at least not fully. and when I go there, it is already under the new JMB, i seriously cant imagine how it is before that...must be very horrendous. it is BAD, not "not SO bad".

but thank you for admitting you sold at loss. Im sure there are bunch of them there selling at loss smile.gif

QUOTE(THX1138 @ May 28 2012, 01:28 PM)
I agree with you that Mr. Chipsley has a grudge against Flora Damansara. It’s one thing to point out the bad points about the place (which is actually helpful for potential buyers so they can make informed decisions), it’s quite another to keep harping about it. When someone does so many posts, day after day, you have to wonder what their agenda is. He’s denied having a grudge, and people who can read will make up their own minds.

I’m an ex-FD owner who sold a Block F unit (high floor) in 2010. Bought from the developer in 2002, sold at a loss in 2010, and was happy to sell even at a loss. Before people misunderstand, it’s not that the place was SO bad that I was happy to take a loss. It’s just that by 2010, FD was simply not the type of property I wanted to deal with anymore. To me, taking the loss was worth not having to think about FD, and it gave me more time to think about other properties. It did (and probably still does) have it’s bad points, but it certainly wasn’t SO bad. People should note that the build quality of units does vary, and while I heard that some had tiles popping up, pipes leaking, etc, my unit didn’t have those.

Now that the price has gone up, I’m glad that the buyer is now sitting on a profit. The buyer took the risk, and it’s only fair the buyer reaps the reward. The idea of being happy when others gain might be an alien concept to some people, but I’ve reached a stage of my life where the financial loss I incurred doesn’t matter that much, and I don’t live my life with the goal of me being the only one to gain and everybody else must lose.

Getting back to the topic, I personally would not buy FD now. But I do recognise that there is potential for improvement, and IF the management company is strong, the place can be turned around (I’ve seen this happen at other places where the residents’ committee was very strong). It will probably take 4 – 5 years though, although signs of improvement should be visible within 1 – 2 years. In the meantime, inflation will continue, and that will help support FD prices.

For people who have decided (or do decide in the future) to buy into FD, I wish you good luck and hope that FD improves. Some of you will have bought it as an investment, some of you will have bought it because it’s what you can afford. For the latter group especially, I hope things work out well.
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Added on May 28, 2012, 9:43 pm
QUOTE(mers0000 @ May 28 2012, 11:11 AM)
me too went to go FD last saturday...on the way to go there the road quite nice and got some construction work there..dont mind that...at the main entrance got 2-3 security but as usual..security in most mid-cost apartment no function at all..also ok for me..then start looking around..block a,b,c,d...look like low-cost apartment...i think ok la since its older than other block...then go up to block at the top hill...new paint and can see its newer than other and environtment ok la...parking also ok got many space...but so near the edge of hill. 

i got chance to talk with some pakcik there FD got potential to be 'mini-foreign-village' because its location quite far from public and low rental. i asked the rental price around 600 but can up a bit if u willing to rent to foreign worker..they dont mind share with 10 people in a house.

i dont have any experience to buy a house but for me im not going to buy FD as my first property. just my 1cent.
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the 10 ppl foreigner will destroy the place, that i assure you. in the long run, you will still need to do renovation.

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post May 28 2012, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(richsense @ May 28 2012, 10:46 PM)
I also want to see how the Flora Damansara will survive in the wake of all the multimillion worth of properties around it. smile.gif
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not sure if the multi-million dollar development means anything to the foreigner & malay residing there. anyway, if anyone feel they will "reap the benefit of their risk", be my guest and buy 1.
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post May 29 2012, 12:54 AM

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QUOTE(richsense @ May 28 2012, 11:16 PM)
Please don't make such a racist statement. Not only malay are staying there but there are also chinese and indian. Not all malay, chinese and indian can afford to live in such a grand place. Most of them do live in flat or PPRT in some other areas ie Kuala Lumpur.
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i think you are the one that thinks racistly, doesnt mean a malay word comes out means im racist(not that i said only malays living there). dont be a fool. that place majority is after all malay, it doesnt need an expert in property to know. the minority are chinese, even indians are more than chinese. mostly chinese buy they rent to foreigners because they only care for returns.

and in reality, the developments means nothing to the malay & indians, obviously they are living in low cost property, do you in your sane mind, think they would be bothered to know there are great development in the area and more importantly, do you think they are bothered to think how great it is their property going to rise in prices ? only selfish person will be thick skin to say yes, they care...the reality is the "rising of the prices" cant help them in any way at all. as one of the forumers said, if they arent able to even pay maintenance monthly, what more can you expect them to think about the rising of the property ?

when I say it is the internal factor that pulls this place down, i think many who invested there are in denial mode because they are too blind to see the internal problems. They are focusing on the IKEA/Tesco/Curve & high class area....sometimes, because of money, people choose to see what they WANT TO SEE.

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post May 29 2012, 01:33 AM

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QUOTE(Alvinyeo @ May 29 2012, 01:22 AM)
I'm glad AGM finally here. Well, since there so many complain and good suggestion in this thread i think is a waste if we don't bring it up.  hmm.gif
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dont need lah. since many are thinking "highly" of their invested unit.... laugh.gif
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post May 29 2012, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(Alvinyeo @ May 29 2012, 11:31 AM)
Just ignore the fellow. We here looking for improvement while this fellow just hentam here and there.  doh.gif
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so are you saying what i say is wrong ? i think you just dont want to admit only. buy until 4 units somemore.

ya, you should put the icon of ketuk ur own kepala somemore.


Added on May 29, 2012, 1:06 pm
QUOTE(rachel_xxx @ May 29 2012, 12:57 PM)
Wah just saw in classifieds, already reach RM170k for this prop. Seem like the comments here not affecting the agents.
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who say our comments is intended for the agents ? agent can anytime hike the price, no problem, as miss shaq says put rm300K also no problem brows.gif

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post May 29 2012, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(rachel_xxx @ May 29 2012, 02:30 PM)
haha I thought agents should be more pro than us (the outsiders). If seller undervalue their prop, agent should at least advice, overvalue nevermind?
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my point is, their job is to purposely hike prices irregardless how rubbish the property looks like. this country dont like them until 2 got killed, imagine that...how people dislike the way they hike price ?
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post May 29 2012, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(Alvinyeo @ May 29 2012, 03:30 PM)
I replaying how to improve situation in FD and is that some how seems wrong for you ?

What so if i got 4 units there, do you have any gain or loss on my business ?

I got no grudge on you and i starting to wonder do you have on me.
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i obviously dont give a damn how many units you own. it's not my business yes, but since this is a forum, I have my freedom to say anything to the people here. obviously what Ive said is true, you dont have tot ell people to ignore me, if you yourself cant even notice what is wrong with your property.
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post May 29 2012, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(Alvinyeo @ May 29 2012, 03:48 PM)
Than you shouldn't bring up how many properties i got at there if " dont give a damn how many units i own".

The property got wrong or right is fair for a person judge itself. Yes you can advice regards the property but final judgement will be the person itself.

Your wrong might be other people right.

Besides, we are discussion about the AGM and i bring out what issued to talk about and i stated clear that this thread bring out a lot of negativity side and what the use if we can improve it.

A round discussion with the community, owners, tenants, agents and managements regards those issues.

And you practically don't agree with my idea, i wonder why : "dont need lah. since many are thinking "highly" of their invested unit.... "

Yes, we are thinking highly and of course we looking for improvement. Is there any wrong in that ?
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i bring it up to show that people who own a lot dont even give a damn about what Ive said. and certainly you dont have any right to tell ppl to ignore me. Im saying that not just for you to listen to anyway.

whether you want to improve or not certainly is not my business. whether it is wrong or not, i dont care. up to you since you think so highly about your apt. see how long you all can discuss la.
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post May 29 2012, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(potenza10 @ May 29 2012, 04:52 PM)
Please guys.

Forumers here need some good info.No need bashing each other.If any of you 'dont care', just go away and proceed to other place.We also dont care about you.
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excuse me, I know you are directing to me by using my pharses, But please open your eyes first before you start accusing something like a blind person. Im not bothered with whether you care or not.


Added on May 29, 2012, 6:41 pm
QUOTE(trinityz @ May 29 2012, 05:45 PM)
i agree with you on the bolded part. agents nowadays are very greedy, unintelligent, cunning and ridiculous. they selling without knowing anything just simply mark up the price and tell u "it's below market value. market value is 20% more than this one" and upon checking, you will know all the words are rubbish. so far i have never encountered any good and honest agents. mostly are arrogant and stupid.
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thank you. i speak all my words with much honesty. not only you have agreed, many too have agreed. only selfish & self-centred people here disagree with me because they have units there. If you cant take constructive critism, dont expect people to buy flora damansara at RIDICILOUS PRICES.

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post May 29 2012, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(rachel_xxx @ May 29 2012, 06:25 PM)
FD rental now RM1,100. Congrats Alvin for your purchase.
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rachel,

rental can be any number you want. the question is who is the one renting from you....why not you go and congratulate every resident in FD ? they should celebrate this isnt it ? doh.gif


Added on May 29, 2012, 6:52 pm
QUOTE(lilac @ May 29 2012, 06:44 PM)
Dude, you do have a grudge don't you? - why should I ? the very reason if I dont reply people's post, people will misinterpret medoh.gif

We were talking about listing out what to be brought up for the AGM and you go ahead and slam it down with one sarcastic line. 
- to begin with, do you know which one am i replying to ?

Like potenza10 highlighted, purchasers need good info and what you are providing is starting to sound worse that you have no interest in the place at all! Once more like potenza10 said, if you don't have any interest in the location feel free to go away.
- so, Im replying to him, is that wrong ? in fact, he has no right to even ask people to leave especially people that already provided input.

Honestly... what is really your issue?
- why are you bothered now ?  ohmy.gif you should have started to ask this question quite awhile ago, but again I guess you guys are being defensive and taking my critism wrong way.

On the brighter note smile.gif
Good to know the AGM is coming up. I think FD has quite a lot of projects up at hand, however if I were to list them down the below would be of my attention

1) Deadlines of when projects to be completed.  doh.gif  inside not yet solved, he go and ask outside pulak....
2) Where are the RM77 funds being used.
3) Safety of location - security tag?
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post May 29 2012, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(potenza10 @ May 29 2012, 08:50 PM)
Mrchipsley,

Its ok if you feel that you have voice out your concern/opinion related to FD and its not right or wrong if someone else didnt agree with you. Just move on.Cheers!
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move on ? there's no right or wrong, why need to move on ? unless you guys are offended for the wrong reasons...
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post May 29 2012, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(potenza10 @ May 29 2012, 09:39 PM)
I think someone got a bad history with FD..all round he hentam..lol! Be cool man.
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yah, but the thing is that guy didnt buy FD wor, he choose to buy others. any bad history possible happen there ?
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QUOTE(ahbaoahbao @ May 29 2012, 10:23 PM)
Haha, pekanmy, if this is a facebook page, I would definitely click "like" on your comment.

I am keen to know the deadline of the projects, particularly, the parking system and the smart access.

and also some other issues that you raised out. ^^


Added on May 29, 2012, 10:29 pm

Yeap, everyone has the right to voice out his/her own opinion, as long as it is not too sarcastic or racist.
Let say, "Malaysia is not good enough". Some may just say we should improve but without action. Some may say we should improve... by providing proposal. Some may just say Change Government. Some may say... And some may say Malaysia is like a sxxt and we need to migrate, and ask other people to migrate too. Of course, nothing should be considered wrong. It is just a matter how do you treat Malaysia and Malaysian. Same to Flora and "Florian".
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as i said, if you felt it is racist, then it's your problem. im not sure why many are so ignorant that im saying that place is definitely a malay area...having said that, did i say there's no indians & chinese ? doh.gif
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post May 30 2012, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(richsense @ May 30 2012, 08:22 AM)
What's wrong if it is a malay area??
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nothing is wrong...im just giving you a perspective view.

 

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