depends the traffic condition u faced lo...16cents/KM not bad...many AT users here will jealous u, especially klng72...

AT user is advised not to drive mad...you have to care about ur gear box...if got problem then you will know why Terengganu govern want to change their Perdana to Merc...

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Added on November 9, 2009, 10:56 pmYou too...

This post has been edited by coolkwc: Nov 9 2009, 10:57 PM

Yup, i did the same thing as you...if not sometimes the car can't start properly (the RPM up and down after started)...

Bang them if they laugh on you, see which one tougher...

Yup, i felt the same, especially when aircon kickin, less noticeable, and suprisingly the throttle is more responding, low RPM torque (1.5-2K) is better...Yesterday until now run for 87KM, the gauge still show full bar...

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Added on November 10, 2009, 10:04 pmSometimes open aircon is for more comfort ride, not the cold or hot matter...less carbon monoxide (not good for ur health), less air resistance (windows closed, means less wind drag), a lot silent so can enjoy ICE (wind noise + cars noise), less habuk go inside your interior, means clean ride...for me in the morning i just open aircon and set the temp at 1 or 2 bar only, although consume fuel, but for that reason is worth it...just my opinion la...

This post has been edited by coolkwc: Nov 10 2009, 10:10 PM

Nope, it was jerking due to aircon kickin, i think your AT will notice easily, cos at same speed your car RPM is lower than mine MT...mine MT at 90km/h @3000RPM also can slightly feel the jerking during aircon kickin.

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Added on November 11, 2009, 6:45 amYou are rite, the aircon kickin is about 30s-60s once la, not 2-3minutes la, even is lowest setting...at night try to stop at the dark place, you will notice the headlamp dim for a while when the compressor surge power..

This post has been edited by coolkwc: Nov 11 2009, 06:48 AM

Just got my chance to ride the Myvi for the 1st time...a very eventful night, i think i won't forget it forever.

So I ride my friend Myvi went for dinner, and few things make me won't regret on buying BLM.
1. The suspension is worst on bumpy road, jump like frog...
2. The dash board is too high, make the windscreen smaller than BLM, vision decrease.
3. The aircon is not cold as BLM, my 2 bar temp setting pawn half temp setting of myvi.
4. Suprisingly it got exactly similar problem as my BLM, the both of the front door (exactly the same place, which near the door knob) got 'zzzzzz' vibration noise along the road.
5. The soundproof is more or less same as BLM only.

So after the dinner we went to take repaired handphone, but the shop just return the handphone without battery, and said she adi gave back to my friend when send for repair. So my friend is worry whether she forgot where she place the battery or the shop want to cheat her. So i saw her worry then i ma suggest drive for her lo, but she refuse...then finally she drive also...

Maybe she think too much during drive, when she turn the corner, she just didn't realise got car stop in front and straight bang on it...So we out from the car to check, my door at left can't open, the left mudguard just pushed behind and blocked the front left door, and the bumper is damage severely. So we think the car in front will serious also, but I nearly faint after i saw it...the bumper just got some minor scratch and no dent at all, can remove easily by polish. That car is Hyundai (dun know which model, because not familiar wif Hyundai car). Like cadboard VS stone...

So dun know if my bad luck or her bad luck....The morale of story, dun drive when your mood is down.

This post has been edited by coolkwc: Nov 11 2009, 11:51 PM

For auto, yes, according to gear ratio, is 3.5K RPM @ 120KM/h...

MT even higher, exactly 4K @ same speed...i just went 90-100km/h from JB to Ipoh last month, total 1100KM only RM112 of RON95, means 11 cents/KM...so drive fast will consume more fuel...

Mine is MT, yup, i only went 90-100KM for 500++ journey, thats why can get those figure...JB-Ipoh used Petronas 95, Ipoh-JB Shell fuel saver 95, both gave more or less same mileage, so virtually no different of performance/FC for long run...FYI, i'm not totally highway driving, 40% old road, 60% highway...so thats why i feel MT is fuel saver lo...

This post has been edited by coolkwc: Nov 12 2009, 12:12 AM

not much soundproof la, i have to say...when drive over those uneven surface just 'bing bing pang pang' like BLM...for engine sound i think DVVT is silent than Campro, u can hear it outside

The scale is not linear one...1st 3 bars took long time, after 3 bar, you just feel ur car like drinking water... BLM when last bar blinking still got 10L remained in the tank.

Anything more than ~16cents/KM is quite bad for me...but still I saw a lot of M-Line AT users suffer this kind of FC.

As i said early, when light comes out, the tank still got 10+ Liters remaining, i refuel at that condition before, only manage to bump in 28L, thats why RM50 lo...highest record also only RM57, because no dare to continue too much for that level of fuel.

Do you think the interior quality will be better than those local market? means the dashboard and door vibration noise is given 'special treatment'?

Because i heard that those Wira which for export the quality is alot better than for local market one...

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Added on November 12, 2009, 8:51 pmlike Honda City type, auto but can manual shifted (no clutch).

This post has been edited by coolkwc: Nov 12 2009, 08:51 PM

Yup, better engine even higher CC will have good FC also...My dad old school Toyota Corona 2.0GLI can manage 0.12-13 cents/KM if cruising @ 110KM/h at highway...

For BLM honestly 1.3 for 10XXKG is ngam ngam only, if you let say pick 4 adult, than you will feel helpless when you want to overtake car. Last time 2 'strong' men (90kg each) + 2 'normal' men (55kg each) ride my car, i have to rev until 3K before i shift gear (normally only me i shift at 2.2K)...and the throttle totally no response at 5 gear @ 70KM/h @ 2.3K RPM, if steady cruising is OK, want pickup is very hard...FYI mine is MT, if AT, i guess you will suffer like hell, i think you step your throttle heavily and shift @ 4K, but your FC will like drink water...

extra 2K is worth its price, but only red colour available make alot of potential buyers change their mind.

it depends on the torque curve also la ...thats because this Campro is high rev engine, so 3K will be more responding..if the engine not vibrate then low rev shifting is not a problem for me la...different ppl different driving style, i just like uncle driving style, save fuel hehe...

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Added on November 12, 2009, 9:42 pmur brake and clutch can tahan or not? 180...lol

This post has been edited by coolkwc: Nov 12 2009, 09:43 PM

So thats why Myvi end up wif severe damage when hit those heavy car lo...

Anyway, just went to ask for repair for my friend Myvi...left front mudguard change + repray + knock back bumper (mechanics not gurantee the result will be satisfy) + clip back headlamp (top screw holder and some bar holding that lamp adi broken, and the plastic cover also scratch) + repray half bumper, cost RM450...luckily the price is still 'acceptable' info update also: the car hit by Myvi is Hyundai Sonata, very solid...

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Added on November 12, 2009, 10:41 pmThis is the 1st national car for my family...suprisingly my father agree for this BLM purchase, before that he just curse proton like hell... maybe attracted by the appearance and its cheap price...but after he test drive, his comment is '都几好力下 geh' (pickup is quite good)...

This post has been edited by coolkwc: Nov 12 2009, 10:42 PM

1. Did you saw the dial between the RPM meter and speedometer? press to alternate between trip meter and mileage meter, after refuel, hold for few seconds will reset the trip meter. There just didn't show both at the same time only.

2. Depends on traffic condition and ur right foot. If there is no stop-go traffic jam and can cruising at 50-70 constant speed, then Saga manual is a fuel saver...at >60km/h actually could change to 5th gear and the engine RPM will only around 2000(given that no load in car, only driver alone), then FC will be very good. Mine Saga manual can achieved RM0.13/KM (RON95), which is RM55 for 420KM for daily working @ 70-90km/h and 30% stop-go.

This post has been edited by coolkwc: Nov 14 2009, 07:18 PM

If you read through this thread, alot of Auto users suffer terrible FC, about 16-20cents/KM in traffic jam condition or city drive, i don't know how their actual driving condition, so far rare complaint from Manual users suffer high FC in this thread, not sure whether majority is AT user or what.

For start up problem, i did changed from RON95 to 97 last week, so far no problem during morning cold start for whole week, and today just switched back to 95, maybe tmr cold start see whether got problem or not.