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Renovations Plywood kitchen cabinet, different of melamine abs and plywood
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TSkinghand
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Oct 17 2009, 01:00 AM, updated 17y ago
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My kitchen body doing by plywood and door doing by melamine abs is it ok...when i knock the kitchen body,the sound look like "kosong" is it ok?
This post has been edited by kinghand: Nov 16 2009, 07:46 PM
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rescuedual
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Oct 17 2009, 06:59 PM
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It's fine using plywood coz reasonable price, just handle with care due to thin layer material.
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TSkinghand
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Oct 18 2009, 12:08 PM
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so this two material which is better?is it "tahan" ?
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bluedolphin83
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Oct 19 2009, 09:44 PM
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n73me
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Oct 20 2009, 09:34 AM
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i not sure which more tahan, but i know that plywood more expensive compared to compress wood, so does this make plywood better quality ?
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mchlkeys
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Oct 21 2009, 03:37 PM
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QUOTE(bluedolphin83 @ Oct 19 2009, 09:44 PM) Hi Kinghand, From what i know, there is no proper answer saying that which wood is more "tahan" as its actually depends on how you use it. As for your case, you might worry cause plywood sounds "empty", bt actually its good for ventilation, some more it's made by real wood, not compress wood like Melamine board which most people think its more solid. Those who ever face problem with Melamine ABS before will surely understand what im talking about as nowadays more and more people request for plywood for their cabinet inner part. Hope the above information is useful to you  Added on October 19, 2009, 10:02 pmHereby i attached few photos of cabinet that made by my hubby      wah i love it ? how much 1, and 2 ?
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bluedolphin83
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Oct 21 2009, 04:40 PM
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QUOTE(n73me @ Oct 20 2009, 09:34 AM) i not sure which more tahan, but i know that plywood more expensive compared to compress wood, so does this make plywood better quality ? Actually the price for plywood is only slightly higher than compress wood due to more time and works needed. I can't really tell which quality better, but as from my point of view, i prefer plywood cause it won't expand easily but compress wood will. Added on October 21, 2009, 4:46 pmQUOTE(mchlkeys @ Oct 21 2009, 03:37 PM) wah i love it ? how much 1, and 2 ?  haha, thanks for the compliment... FYI, the 1st cabinet (white) done by "Membrane Press", the 2nd is by "Melamine ABS", i've PM you the price This post has been edited by bluedolphin83: Oct 21 2009, 04:46 PM
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TSkinghand
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Oct 23 2009, 06:08 PM
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You just doing kitchen cabinet only?u hubby have doing wardrobe?If my friend want to do melamine abs body u also can ah..?
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bluedolphin83
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Oct 24 2009, 12:04 PM
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QUOTE(kinghand @ Oct 23 2009, 06:08 PM) You just doing kitchen cabinet only?u hubby have doing wardrobe?If my friend want to do melamine abs body u also can ah..? Hi kinghand, We not only do kitchen cabinet, bt also wardrobe, TV rack & any other custom made furniture  Hereby i share some other photos for you guys~ Anti-jump Wardrobe  Wardrobe + Computer Table  TV Cabinet  Display Cabinet  Wine Rack + Bar  Altar  As for your 2nd question, do you mean chipboard inner part for kitchen cabinet or wardrobe? Anyhow, we do accept this kind of order also coz some still prefer chipboard due to cheaper price & its "sounds" more solid than plywood  Added on November 5, 2009, 5:37 pmHi guys, here i share some pictures again~    enjoy~~ This post has been edited by bluedolphin83: Nov 5 2009, 05:37 PM
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TSkinghand
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Nov 5 2009, 11:14 PM
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my friend's cabinet shelf,why curve 1? it is Melamine abs/chipboard?
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cherroy
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Nov 6 2009, 01:03 AM
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Just a brief on plywood and compressed wood.
Plywood is made of actual timber log that being peel piece by piece then glued it together cross-linked with its fiber direction Compressed wood is made of chips like chipboard or MDF board than being glued together.
Cost to cost wise, plywood material cost is more expensive than chips, as it needs to used whole timber log to process, while chips based just simply can take any particles left over.
Particle board can 'swell' if soak in water, as they made of chips, while plywood is the actual wood piece that will have less 'swelling' effect.
Nowadays it depends a lot of the source of it, as there are manufacturers using rubberwood, palm tree, even coconut tree to mix in between which make it less durable. Price wise between real forest timber log with coconut tree mixed one can be a lot, but ordinary consumer won't able to know it.
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TSkinghand
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Nov 9 2009, 06:41 PM
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For long term plywood is better la?
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bluedolphin83
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Nov 11 2009, 03:20 PM
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cherroy
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Nov 11 2009, 03:34 PM
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There are hundred of types of timber species, some timber can last 50 years without problem, some only can last short term only.
Price wise can de different totally, even up to 2x.
There are some plywood made of coconut and palm oil tree one as well lately which is not that lasting, but price wise is way cheaper than medium hardwood type of plywood.
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bluedolphin83
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Nov 12 2009, 09:29 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 11 2009, 03:34 PM) There are hundred of types of timber species, some timber can last 50 years without problem, some only can last short term only. Price wise can de different totally, even up to 2x. There are some plywood made of coconut and palm oil tree one as well lately which is not that lasting, but price wise is way cheaper than medium hardwood type of plywood. Cherroy, you do know alot bout timber wood, what business you in?  Added on November 12, 2009, 9:36 pmQUOTE(yumyum77 @ Nov 12 2009, 01:20 PM) I like how it's done at the space below the staircase there, very nice  ya, its very nice & save alot of spaces This post has been edited by bluedolphin83: Nov 12 2009, 09:36 PM
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TSkinghand
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Nov 16 2009, 07:49 PM
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 This very nice woh...
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bluedolphin83
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Nov 28 2009, 11:10 AM
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QUOTE(kinghand @ Nov 16 2009, 07:49 PM)  This very nice woh... yaya, even its a small kitchen bt then this color looks very nice and match to the house =) Added on November 28, 2009, 11:16 amHere's some photos to share again ~       there are more coming =) This post has been edited by bluedolphin83: Nov 28 2009, 11:16 AM
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giggs_509
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Nov 28 2009, 05:44 PM
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Bluedolphin, if wardrobe how much aar? If new house better do kitchen kabinet 1st or plaster ceiling?
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chae
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Nov 30 2009, 11:11 AM
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QUOTE(mchlkeys @ Oct 21 2009, 03:37 PM) wah i love it ? how much 1, and 2 ?  ya man..nice..bluedolphin83 can you PM me the price  thanks
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bluedolphin83
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Dec 10 2009, 05:43 PM
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hey, sorry guys for the late reply as i was busy for my wedding preparation =) giggs_509, do you have the measurement for your kitchen cabinet? if new house, better do your plaster ceiling 1st wor~ chae, thanks for the compliment ya ^^ will PM you the price now
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giggs_509
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Dec 11 2009, 10:53 AM
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QUOTE(bluedolphin83 @ Dec 10 2009, 05:43 PM) hey, sorry guys for the late reply as i was busy for my wedding preparation =) giggs_509, do you have the measurement for your kitchen cabinet? if new house, better do your plaster ceiling 1st wor~ chae, thanks for the compliment ya ^^ will PM you the price now  need to measure 1st, but my kitchen small only. if wanna do plaster 1st, then later scared got problem if wanna warranty claim. new house maa.. here is the pic.. thinking of making my kitchen like the showhouse kitchen.. This post has been edited by giggs_509: Dec 11 2009, 10:54 AM Attached thumbnail(s)
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hong0228
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Dec 31 2009, 10:59 AM
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QUOTE(bluedolphin83 @ Nov 28 2009, 11:10 AM) hi, can PM me the price for this?
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aslahuddin
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Dec 31 2009, 11:33 AM
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QUOTE(bluedolphin83 @ Nov 28 2009, 11:10 AM) waaa nice lor the tv cabinet..how much for that tv cabinet??
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bernard79
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Dec 31 2009, 12:02 PM
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QUOTE(giggs_509 @ Dec 11 2009, 10:53 AM) need to measure 1st, but my kitchen small only. if wanna do plaster 1st, then later scared got problem if wanna warranty claim. new house maa.. here is the pic.. thinking of making my kitchen like the showhouse kitchen.. Wah.. so fast shop around. ....... Alpinia showhouse kitchen ?
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platingirl
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Dec 31 2009, 09:01 PM
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hi can you please pm me the price for kitchen cabinet, anti jump wardrobe and tv cabinet ..
also, want to ask .. if i want to paint my house interior .. should i do the cabinets first, then only paint .... or paint first ?
thankss.
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giggs_509
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Dec 31 2009, 10:26 PM
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Doing survey ma.. Hehe.. QUOTE(bernard79 @ Dec 31 2009, 12:02 PM) Wah.. so fast shop around. ....... Alpinia showhouse kitchen ?
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SUSmemekfalui
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Feb 17 2010, 08:45 PM
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QUOTE(bluedolphin83 @ Nov 11 2009, 03:20 PM) As what Cherroy had explain, plywood is more long lasting than compress wood as its made by timber log. Anyhow, it still depends alot on the source of the wood, which consumer won't easily know the difference. My hubby's family was in this furniture business for more than 20yrs, they always prefer plywood cabinet and so do their customers  Added on November 11, 2009, 3:25 pmThese are the latest project from my hubby~  can u pm me details for this type of bottom cabinet 10 feet "U" shape.
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kelvyn
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Apr 30 2010, 09:50 PM
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QUOTE(platingirl @ Dec 31 2009, 10:01 PM) hi can you please pm me the price for kitchen cabinet, anti jump wardrobe and tv cabinet .. also, want to ask .. if i want to paint my house interior .. should i do the cabinets first, then only paint .... or paint first ? thankss. I don't think it will matter if you paint first or install the kitchen cabinet first. They workers will put sheets to cover when painting. As for the ceiling, I think it is best that plaster ceiling be done first. Cos the work is slightly dirty and messy.
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may star
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May 3 2010, 10:57 PM
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QUOTE(steve426 @ Apr 30 2010, 10:27 PM) we are speciallized for kitchen cabinet & wardrobe,share some picture for all  steve,nice design  can pm ur contact num to me
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zoomckng
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May 4 2010, 03:44 PM
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for kitchen cabinets, why not try use stainless steel? it last much longer than wood. esp when come to issue with waters.
i've opt to use aluminium for my bottom cabinets. 28ft run. but it takes a longer time to complete. maybe in 2-3 weeks time. will upload the pics once completed.
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hmckl
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May 5 2010, 01:42 PM
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QUOTE(zoomckng @ May 4 2010, 03:44 PM) for kitchen cabinets, why not try use stainless steel? it last much longer than wood. esp when come to issue with waters. i've opt to use aluminium for my bottom cabinets. 28ft run. but it takes a longer time to complete. maybe in 2-3 weeks time. will upload the pics once completed. I've definitely thought about this. Can u please pm me the price and the contact of the supplier? Tks.
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steve426
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May 9 2010, 01:33 AM
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vexus
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May 9 2010, 02:05 PM
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melamine abs board is known a chipboard. It's widely use in all kitchen cabinet, wardrobe & etc.
Melamine abs is good against termite infection.
Chipboard/melamine abs is not water resistant board. It will get warp & twisted when expose to moisture. Melamine is replacement of plywood/hardwood product, due to lighter and cheaper material.
Melamine board produce good quality finishes compare to normal plywood with laminate finishes. It depend on individual budget. If you like real wood feel, you can go for real wood. There are 3 type of real/solid wood
1) Veneer finish. Basically you will see real wood finish but hollow sound on your cabinet door. Cost will be much cheap than 1 & 3
2) Solid wood finish. You will use real wood ie. nyatoh, merbau, mengis, oak wood, which look a bit oldies style.
3) Solid wood in veneer finish Same as item no. 1 but you will feel solidness of the cabinet door and it's heavy.
What material they use in solid veneer finish? There are many ways to produce a solid wood feel with veneer finish/laminate finish. They can use either
a)pure compress plywood
b)compress chipboard
c)mixture of compress plywood & MDF board
What board they use if you looking at high gloss finish? They can either use coated chipboard or MDF board
What is MDF board? Medium-density fibreboard (MDF) is an engineered wood product formed by breaking down hardwood or softwood residuals into wood fibres, often in a defibrator, combining it with wax and a resin binder, and forming panels by applying high temperature and pressure.[1] MDF is more dense than plywood.
MDF is more solid & heavier than chipboard. If MDF is treated with sealer, it's a water resistant board. MDF board can produce high quality finishes compare to coated chipboard. MDF is much more expensive than chipboard.
kitchen counter top.
Never use post form or HPL laminate chipboard. It will not last if the counter top wet all the time. Use man made stone known as corian or solid surface. It's better for maintenance and repairable to all deep scratches and cracks. The bad side of solid surface, it's not high temperature heat resistant. Never put a hot pan on top of solid surface, or else you will end up seeing a burn mark on your counter top.
This post has been edited by vexus: May 9 2010, 02:28 PM
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steve426
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May 10 2010, 05:24 PM
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may star
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May 11 2010, 12:39 PM
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QUOTE(steve426 @ May 10 2010, 05:24 PM) share some picture wardrobe for all hi steve,how many for first picture
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Life_House
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May 11 2010, 09:51 PM
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hi all,
If for kitchen cabinet, traditional wood-based cabinet vs the modern-style aluminium cabinet :
- wat are the pro & con ? - how's market price differences between the 2 ?
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steve426
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May 12 2010, 10:55 PM
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share some picture for all classic kitchen cabinet   Uploaded with ImageShack.usThis post has been edited by steve426: May 12 2010, 10:58 PM
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bluedolphin83
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May 3 2011, 03:24 PM
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weichieh007
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May 4 2011, 12:56 AM
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QUOTE(steve426 @ May 9 2010, 01:33 AM) share some picture for all hi,may i hv ur contact no?roughly how much for dry and wet kitchen cabinet?thanks.
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kasey1314
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May 5 2011, 07:55 PM
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im supplying furniture for
MNC, Te?co, Shxll, BxP, Petrxnxs, .
Base on long term and business view.
Plywood is more durable and worthy.
My client more focus on business value,
and some is due to the skill,
as your information, chipboards got alot of curving cant do,
u can survey those nowadays popular de kitchen specialist,all is
square square type de...^,^
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jforjean
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May 31 2011, 05:01 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 6 2009, 01:03 AM) Just a brief on plywood and compressed wood. Plywood is made of actual timber log that being peel piece by piece then glued it together cross-linked with its fiber direction Compressed wood is made of chips like chipboard or MDF board than being glued together. Cost to cost wise, plywood material cost is more expensive than chips, as it needs to used whole timber log to process, while chips based just simply can take any particles left over. Particle board can 'swell' if soak in water, as they made of chips, while plywood is the actual wood piece that will have less 'swelling' effect. Nowadays it depends a lot of the source of it, as there are manufacturers using rubberwood, palm tree, even coconut tree to mix in between which make it less durable. Price wise between real forest timber log with coconut tree mixed one can be a lot, but ordinary consumer won't able to know it. very useful info. this can helps ppl to differentiate the plywood & chipboard. thanks for sharing!
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YAK
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Jun 4 2011, 10:12 AM
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QUOTE(steve426 @ May 12 2010, 10:55 PM) share some picture for all classic kitchen cabinet   Uploaded with ImageShack.usHi Steve, how much for cabinet of Picture 2? Also how much if used material such as Nyatoh or other solid timber Oak, etc....
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mic_tcs
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Jun 24 2011, 01:03 AM
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Do you use Melamine? If yes, how much for pfr?
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ijan80
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Aug 5 2011, 12:56 AM
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QUOTE(bluedolphin83 @ Aug 5 2011, 12:12 AM) PM me how much the cost...thanks
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magnifizio
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Aug 5 2011, 08:59 AM
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QUOTE(bluedolphin83 @ Aug 5 2011, 12:12 AM) hi bluedolphin83, can u kindly pm your price for full length wardrobe? in RMxxxpf? thank you in advance
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cwhong
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Aug 6 2011, 01:44 PM
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QUOTE(bluedolphin83 @ Aug 5 2011, 12:12 AM) TS is pointing plywood cabinet yours is plywood meh
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bluedolphin83
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Aug 7 2011, 11:13 PM
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QUOTE(cwhong @ Aug 6 2011, 01:44 PM) TS is pointing plywood cabinet yours is plywood meh  This cabinet body is done by plywood but the door made by melamine board.If previously when there is no melamine board,3g or laminate in the market, we will make the door with plywood. but now,if we dont follow the market trend, sure will eliminate by market.Normally body of cabinet is easy spoil,so will we will make the cabinet body with plywood,so that can more lasting.Thank you..
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airdyloo
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Aug 14 2011, 12:33 PM
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Can you please PM me your contact bluedolphine? thanks
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cwhong
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Aug 15 2011, 12:19 AM
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QUOTE(bluedolphin83 @ Aug 7 2011, 11:13 PM) This cabinet body is done by plywood but the door made by melamine board.If previously when there is no melamine board,3g or laminate in the market, we will make the door with plywood. but now, if we dont follow the market trend, sure will eliminate by market.Normally body of cabinet is easy spoil,so will we will make the cabinet body with plywood,so that can more lasting.Thank you.. that part is strongly AGREE, i was not here to make enemy but i just try to give a correct info to the public only. i may need friend like u too, who knows? in my opinion they (plywood and melamine) was in the different target of consumers which can be categorise into 3 main groups Household Consumers, Retails Consumer, Industrials consumer. In Household consumers can splits into 3 main category too lower end (cheap cheap price, quality not a problem), middle end (moderate/affordable price, quality not too cheap loh, design is OK and practical use), higher end (very expensive, quality is the matters, branding is a must, design must be IN/Trendy, quality is superb). All three sub category is the main majority LYN was interested so just stick to this....... I just wanna said concentrate at ur own expertise in the right category/target is the concern......
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jforjean
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Aug 15 2011, 11:29 AM
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laminated finished c/w solid plywood kitchen cabinet to share~ DSCF5959 by jforjean, on Flickr
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bluedolphin83
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Aug 23 2011, 11:33 PM
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pkh93
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Nov 21 2024, 07:12 PM
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Hi guys, is it possible to tell what wood the bigger pieces are? Is it a standard practice that when quoted plywood furniture, it is not made of mostly plywood? This post has been edited by pkh93: Nov 21 2024, 07:12 PM
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ar188
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Nov 21 2024, 09:15 PM
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QUOTE(pkh93 @ Nov 21 2024, 07:12 PM) Hi guys, is it possible to tell what wood the bigger pieces are? Is it a standard practice that when quoted plywood furniture, it is not made of mostly plywood?  the chunky pieces is block board. plywood also got so many type. generally its some crappy grade. not export grade ply.
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pkh93
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Nov 21 2024, 11:47 PM
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Nov 21 2024, 09:15 PM) the chunky pieces is block board. plywood also got so many type. generally its some crappy grade. not export grade ply. Thanks! I can't do anything about the plywood grade as it's not listed in the quotation, but at least it's mentioned as plywood. I'm just wondering is it normal to have so many part made of blackboard when it was quoted as plywood? Is it a standard practice?
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