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thedarknight
post Oct 15 2009, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(Joey Christensen @ Oct 15 2009, 10:41 AM)
K.I.V files? Grab 'em and Bag 'em. To be kept for future/desperate times only. How it feels like when there's 6 A4 paper boxes containing CVs? Basically it's a dump site for me. Salvaging will only take place in desperate times.

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spot on sir... i think 'KIV' is a polite way of saying you're rejected! better luck next time..
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post Oct 15 2009, 10:53 AM

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KIV can also means that if the candidate they selected bail out, then you are the first choice
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post Oct 15 2009, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(Joey Christensen @ Oct 15 2009, 10:41 AM)
K.I.V files? Grab 'em and Bag 'em. To be kept for future/desperate times only. How it feels like when there's 6 A4 paper boxes containing CVs? Basically it's a dump site for me. Salvaging will only take place in desperate times.

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That's how I imagine it to be as well. Letting a pile of CVs sit in a corner gathering dust seems bit of an odd practice if you ask me, unless you like azarimy have spent time working in the firm.


Added on October 15, 2009, 1:07 pm
QUOTE(azarimy @ Oct 15 2009, 07:40 AM)
something just crossed my mind:

u actually put IC numbers, address and DoB and similar details on ur CV?

coz most people dont. only phone number and email.
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Yea, DOB, IC # and address are pretty standard details to have in one's cv, at least in Malaysia anyway. I think.

This post has been edited by verajelly: Oct 15 2009, 01:18 PM
Joey Christensen
post Oct 15 2009, 02:33 PM

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Details such as name (with your surname bolded font), contack number, corresponding address and email address on top left is sufficient.

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post Oct 15 2009, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(thedarknight @ Oct 15 2009, 10:53 AM)
spot on sir... i think 'KIV' is a polite way of saying you're rejected! better luck next time..
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Correct.

There is no point keeping a resume for future purposes since resume will change with work experience, and many HRs won't bother to find the KIV resume when someone reapplies in the future.
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post Oct 15 2009, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(verajelly @ Oct 14 2009, 11:04 PM)
Sorry for the very noob question but : What is the point of employers "keeping for reference" your CV instead of issuing a clear rejection? Does it mean you are automatically considered for future positions? Or are they gathering personal data of the public to be sold to tele-salesmen?

What do they do with your CVs when they "KIV" them?
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sometime it means; we may gonna need u later.....

sometime it means; u sucks, we dont want u (dat KIV term is just for "jaga hati", reject in polite way)....

anyway, its more sounds like; don call us, we call u...

u know wat i mean...

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azarimy
post Oct 15 2009, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(verajelly @ Oct 15 2009, 05:05 AM)

Added on October 15, 2009, 1:07 pm
Yea, DOB, IC # and address are pretty standard details to have in one's cv, at least in Malaysia anyway. I think.
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no. it is ASSUMED that it's the standard. but it's not.

what u need to put in the CV is just whatever that's relevant to the potential employers. they may need to know ur address so that they could send future letters, but they do not need to know ur IC number, date of birth (maybe once to justify ur age), race, religion and so on. CV is not ur personal online dating service profile tongue.gif.
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post Oct 16 2009, 12:06 AM

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The thing is if you succeed in getting job then you will have to put in all these details .

But I do agree that even if you did get it , why should the employer know IC etc?

It has nothing to do with the job.
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post Oct 16 2009, 09:41 AM

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It has nothing to do with the job. It's part of standard operating procedure (SOP).

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post Oct 16 2009, 10:22 AM

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Well, to be honest, I know the "KIV" line is very often used on rejectees especially the decision is delivered face to face. But the reason I'm asking is that I'm getting "Kept For Reference" on several job apps on Jobstreet. On the internet the meaning is less clear because they can easily afford to hand out outright rejections without having to worry about being "polite" about it. It makes the status more ambiguous than it might be in real life.
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post Oct 16 2009, 01:52 PM

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SOP? says who ?

 

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