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so valve gonna develop dota now?

shat and we spent usd30 on hon.

at least we got fun outta it.

first person shooter dota anyone?

No,not FPS DotA.

Anyway,im looking forward to what Icefrog gonna come out with in Valve.

Maybe a DotA like TF2 spin off?

omg another game base on dota idea >.<? no pls we got too many now

i dun mind dota in FPS mode lol

hmmm dota in fps sounds exciting.

maybe a futuristic dota with guns, physic and all etc. like mass effect.

should be like this:

heroes + creeps = controlled by players.

heroes: 5 vs 5 = 10 players

the rest can jump in and use any creep

hmm.. wait.. sounds like fail ..

True,im never a fan of all these action RPG.

You know what, I'll be interested to have a look at whatever this is. The main issue I have with all these DoTA games was the extremely limited control. I always felt like there was a lack of strategy involved in them. I know this isn't the point of them. But I never felt the appeal of levelling a single character. Moving around, rinse and repeat.

WHat is interesting is that most of these DoTA games are positioned as a strategy game/RTS in which most in the genre involve controlling a large army(you become an armchair general not a single hero). But in the FPS genre, you are always only controlling a single character anyway(the exceptions are a few tactical games). In an FPS game, I wont have the expectation of having battlefield control like a typical strategy game.

I think this could mean less of the mental block I have for this particular genre.

I think everyone who hates DotA have different issues with it.

I dislike it because it has zillions of items and heroes to play with, where it is hard to learn.Secondly,it felt very lack of control to me and too simplified in terms of scale.It wasnt epic and the map always the same.I also find it's draggy,with most of the time farming with creeps and the ridiculously long spawn time is just annoying.

Still,the new gen of RTS,like DoW2,C&C4 and the rest pretty much against the big armies and arm chair general concept.It's getting dumbed down,as no one actually enjoys base building or large scale battles these days for some reason.

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Oct 7 2009, 04:25 PM

Wow, even Valve is gonna spam DoTA now.

Considering there is like HON, Demigod and LOH or something.

It's League of Legends.

i love valve. i believe they have strict QC for a new IP. i am looking forward to this.

switching btwn FPS + 3rd person + RTS mode shld be fun
its juz like WOW + CSS + DOTA

If that was the case, Valve should've hired the Natural Selection team instead.

I personally think its going to be something pretty radical.

We'll just have to wait and see what comes out of this. I'm curious as to how far he can take things via Valve's engine.

Im thinking something more like DotA.I doubt he wants to make any major changes to DotA.

hired ppl who make dota doesnt mean must make a dota game u know.
valve hired CS team long time ago, do we see any CS clone game? no?

valve doin dota??hmm...sound weird to me..FPS dota??ahh..i noe tis sound familiar..lulzz..later dota gota buy 2 play..lulzz

This post has been edited by kirashin: Oct 7 2009, 06:33 PM

valve hired le minh something...the CS modder to make CS. but now he left to kimchi country to make his own game tactical intervention. so i guess valve has the nature of eating up famous modders. LOL...dota source 2.0. wahhaha...

CS 2 never came out because they wasnt happy with whatever they have worked on,or from what i heard,it's not started yet.

u heard from minh le. LOL...the project was cancelled. valve is not stupid...they must have something cookin down there...

I want play dota in FPS mode

mayb not
but clone always ther
juz like sudden strike = css clone

suddentstrike is an MMO
plus having modern weapon and real life anti-terrorist group doesnt mean its CS....

well FPS dota should be fun. well we should see what icefrog gonna do this time. but still when i heard about "icefrog leading a team in valve" the first thing that came through my mind was " huh? dotA? using TF2 graphic? or CSS FPS SHOOTING DotA? erm"

I don't mean to rain on your parade, but that's severely false.
The CS team was hired and they went on to continue updating CS (Yes to this very day) and made an actual retail version out of it (Counter-strike: Source).
Ditto for the Day of Defeat and Team Fortress teams.
Even the Narbacular Drop team was hired to expand on that game's concept.

Make no mistake, Icefrog was definitely hired for his influence on Dota and we'll most certainly see something along those lines being produced. Highly doubtful it'll be RTS-style due to Valve's background, but certainly something along that vein but in FPS form probably.

Dota with....

dota in fps
looking forward to it

Bloom is so Unreal Engine 3...

What do you take Valve for? Posers?

Its definitely going to get more MOTION BLUR

Nah, i don't think it will be a DotA FPS, but it can't be a Rts since Valve is more to FPS

So now pening have to wait more news

so don't jump to conclusions yet

Heh, ironically, I believe most of the Dota crowd will shun whatever Icefrog puts out with Valve.

Valve have always had a history of making their multiplayer games as accessible as possible and bridging the divide between new players and seasoned players... Something which Dota (As well as most of its fans) is totally against

And I'm happy because of it...

same here.

some people never want to change.

edit:
wait, i think i slapped myself with that statement. :
since that "games being dumbed down for consoles" is also a change.

This post has been edited by Deimos Tel`Arin: Oct 8 2009, 09:30 AM

Well, I think a lot of Dota players will still give that new game a dip even if it's not their type given "IceFrog" has become a brand itself, smart move by Valve business wise.

Ahbengs excluded

LuL steam counters pirates

Are they trying to kill the pirates of the 7 seas?
So. this sound like much more easy?
Updates from steam?
And such on.

More money for Valve
and ours flies.

I still think they gonna make a RTS,than a FPS based DotA.

Im confused, isn't there's already Heroes Of Newerth which most of the Heroes are from DOTA, how come another game was announce and again its contents are from DOTA again? Please Enlighten me guys..

meh, i guess valve just want to borrow icefrog creativity since we all know he modded a map and so many gamers playing that

This post has been edited by windboy: Oct 8 2009, 06:56 PM

No game has been announced taking content from DoTA. What are you talking about? All the other games hasn't taken content from DoTA as well.

No game has been announced at all. Please reevaluate your question.

maybe TS should change the topic to prevent misleading information

DOTA in fps mode!

Crowbar :
+30 damage
+45% atk speed
+20% chance critical
Able to break crates
Increase hat drop rates

" Handy tool "

BTW this game needs local servers if it is to be big. Having ozzy and JPN servers not good enough. Their skill is lower than the local dotard. And US the latency is too high. Valve needs to have local server or the local dotards will forget this game.!!!!!!! RAGE!!!!

WE NEED A BETTER INDICATION OF SKILL POWERRRR!

accordingly to the trusted unofficial source, icefrog will come out new similar DotA game with multiple races such as legion, human, orc, elf, naga (sea-monster), predetor (alien), terminator (robot). Heros skill and thousand of spell will be newly created with new game engine (Ice-CoreX);

the success of the new game from valve in dota will depend on how creative from Icefrog team to completely compete with other release company. IceFrog riches with their experience and with new game engine help, this will definitely another deep impact to currently dota game like game soon in 2010 summer.

source: www.fakenews.com

This post has been edited by jimlim007: Oct 8 2009, 08:40 PM

i guess the game title will be crash of the rojak or defense of the chaos xD

Dude,these things arent even funny at all.

Okie, perhaps they didnt announce the content was taken from DOTA, I notice the map layout, the heroes, skills and a few, besides of the name, the mechanisms are the same though.
as for Leugue Of Legends, only the maps layout are same, heroes are totally different.
HON heroes well.. I'm sure those who play WC3 Mod dota knows that right?

Again what bloody game are you talking about? The only thing that's been revealed so far is that Icefrog works at Valve and is heading a team.

Expanding valve's new IP:

L4DoTA

Actually, since Dota's hero roster is usually based on various fictional characters from other stories, perhaps Valve are gearing up some game where you can have various Valve game characters in it.

Imagine:
Gordon Freeman
- Laser guided RPG
- Can pilot vehicles
- No voice chat

Bill
- Unlimited pistol ammo
- Ability to point
- Dynamic smoking

Chell
- No combat abilities
- No fall damage
- WCC pet

Counter-terrorist
- $$$
- Armour
- Bunny hop

Entire Team Fortress roster
- Hats
- Hats
- Hats

haha kinda funny if its true and come true they hire WY too the creator of Dota Extreme, Dota extreme is very nice effect in Dragon Orb super ultimate power effect

This post has been edited by jimlim007: Oct 9 2009, 06:22 PM

I don't like the idea of FPS DotA, hopefully Valve hired IceFrog to start a RTS genre for the company...

maybe dota using fps engine to make rts game

hopefully it will turn to something fun and funny like TF2 and not the same old dota which is pointless IMO we have been playing dota for like how many years? 6? time for something fresh

valve wanna make CS that play like dota?

well.. with icefrog.. it can be interesting what he will come out with..

Definitely,they do need to change the game a bit.I do hope isnt not just a copy and paste of DotA.

Valve havent even said anything on what they gonna develop with Icefrog leading a team.

One thing I do not mind would be a FPS dota sounds like a great idea to me though I hate dota.

But come to think about it TF2 is abit dotaish just that you dont get items and leveling with magic.


This post has been edited by fujkenasai: Oct 10 2009, 11:24 AM

ah but TF2 do not have creeps.

No,TF2 is more like a fusion of Quake/UT gameplay and Battlefield classes, with some other innovations in it.

It has nothing to do with DoTa.

i think he is linking the hats and level item from tf2 with the item build and leveling in dota

Hats and items in TF2 are completely different from leveling or DotA item.

I know but maybe he say the items and levels of the item than he might have link both together

i think it will be abit like RYL. just that u dont have to grind until lvl 95. u start over again every time from lvl 1 to 25. dont u think so? RYL has got melee and range, and ryl has creeps.

Cheese hates dota *clap* hahah

Cheese hates all kind of mmorpgs

bump since got some fellow dotard gamer asked about this in another thread.

This post has been edited by Deimos Tel`Arin: Nov 9 2009, 03:57 PM

I IZ NOT!

lmao why so serious?

lolz.
i iz hontard now

oh, welcome to the club then!

Valve has the tendency of hiring indie developer to their hive so they can milk them to death by churning out those damn addictive 'casual' game like Audiosurf.

Former DotA developers express concern over Valve's DOTA trademark
Posted Aug 16th 2010 11:30AM by John Callaham
Filed under: RTS


Last week we reported that Valve has applied for a trademark for "DOTA" suggesting strongly that the long standing rumors of the developer making a Defense of the Ancients game are indeed true. Now a couple of former developers of the popular WarCraft III action-RTS mod have expressed concerns about Valve's actions.

Our sister site Joystiq states that Steve "Pendragon" Mescon and Steve "Guinsoo" Feak, who worked on Dota-All Stars, (and now work at Riot Games on the DotA-inspired title League of Legends) stated that they believes the "DotA name should remain the property of the community at-large, as it always has." Mescon believes that Valve's trademarking of the "DotA" name suggests that the developer is "exercising control over its future."

It should be noted that Valve has yet to even announce a DotA game, much less its plans for the franchise. Also Valve is perhaps one of the most open developers out there, issuing mod tools, supporting mod teams and even releasing free stand alone games such as the recent Alien Swarm.

Huh? Source please (Hehe, pun totally unintended)?

I wasn't aware that he is with Valve now and a quick google search yields nothing.

Also, what other "casual" game developer have they hired? And what "casual" game have they released anyway? (Audiosurf isn't even a Valve release)

i think the correct words to use would be:
"valve hire modders and modders enjoices employment under valve."


source:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Team_Fortress_2

"The development of Team Fortress 2 was led by John Cook and Robin Walker, the designers who originally created the Team Fortress modification for Quake in 1996."

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Added on August 18, 2010, 9:52 ammore source here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robin_Walker

"Robin Walker, creator of the Team Fortress series of computer games and current employee of Valve Corporation"

current employee.
no change company yet, must be happy employee hohoho.

This post has been edited by Deimos Tel`Arin: Aug 18 2010, 09:52 AM

Oh yeah, I know perfectly well that's Valve's strategy (Team Fortress 2, Alien Swarm, Portal, Counter-strike, etc) were all the results from hiring modders... I was just wondering how he came to the conclusion that these ppl end up making "casual" games.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=262521



So Dota Source is one
Episode 3 is second

Third?

Portal 2?

it'll be DOTA based on the Source Engine. 3rd person etc like Alien Swarm.

Thats not a suprise

i hope the new dota source has a better respawn system. or at least allow the option to remove the respawn timer.

having to wait 2 minutes to revive is no funs.