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post Oct 6 2009, 01:30 AM, updated 17y ago

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Is Indigo Child real?

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Descriptions of indigo children include the belief that they are empathetic, curious, possess a clear sense of self-definition and purpose, strong-willed, independent, often seen by friends or family as weird and have a strong interest in God from early childhood. Indigo children have also been described as having a strong feeling of entitlement, or "deserving to be here." Other alleged traits include a high intelligence quotient, an inherent intuitive ability, and resistance to authority. According to Tober and Carroll, indigo children function poorly in conventional schools due to their rejection of authority, being smarter than their teachers and a lack of response to guilt-, fear- or manipulation-based discipline.

According to research psychologist Russell Barkley, the New Age movement has yet to produce empirical evidence of the existence of indigo children and the 17 traits most commonly attributed to them were akin to the Forer effect; so vague they could describe nearly anyone. There is also concern that labeling a disruptive child an "indigo" may delay proper diagnosis and treatment that may help the child. Others have stated that many of the traits of indigo children could be more prosaically interpreted as simple arrogance and selfish individualism, which parents with certain New Age beliefs see as being something that they are not.


Below are some Youtube clips
1) Child that can draw so well


2) Child that explains explains mysteries of the universe


3) Child that explains Mars life


p/s: Can moderator help to fix the youtube link? Thanks

This post has been edited by arthurlwf: Oct 6 2009, 01:32 AM
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post Oct 6 2009, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(arthurlwf @ Oct 6 2009, 01:30 AM)
Is Indigo Child real?

Characteristics
Below are some Youtube clips
1) Child that can draw so well


2) Child that explains explains mysteries of the universe


3) Child that explains Mars life


p/s: Can moderator help to fix the youtube link? Thanks
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Fixed.

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Oct 6 2009, 08:55 AM
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post Oct 6 2009, 05:10 PM

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I sometimes to envy such children.. The brilliant mind they possess..
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post Oct 6 2009, 09:05 PM

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Well..i think the other way round >_<...they dun hav a good childhood lol...like watch cartoons...playing with toys xD hehe
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post Oct 6 2009, 09:41 PM

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XD in a way it's true. Talented/popular/famous kids didn't really have a good childhood (As far as the ones I know).
Michael Jackson didn't have a good childhood.
Lindsay Lohan are rather affected so much so she's sort of distorted now @_@
Even the math prodigy in our country (what's her name again..?) is....
oh well.. :/
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post Oct 6 2009, 09:56 PM

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they envy us, we envy them..its a balance in the world
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post Oct 6 2009, 10:35 PM

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Whatever this is, we'll settle for calling them gifted.
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post Oct 6 2009, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(~lynn~ @ Oct 6 2009, 05:10 PM)
I sometimes to envy such children.. The brilliant mind they possess..
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These children suffer more because they are different compare to normal kids with average IQ.
And the children suffers more when they go for average education study... hmm.gif

However, with proper parenting guide, they may become an awesome person to create new invention that might possibly revolutionize mankind history
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QUOTE(arthurlwf @ Oct 6 2009, 10:40 PM)
These children suffer more because they are different compare to normal kids with average IQ.
And the children suffers more when they go for average education study...  hmm.gif

However, with proper parenting guide, they may become an awesome person to create new invention that might possibly revolutionize mankind history
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Of which the parents themselves must be smart no?
Which I ponder as well, could these gifted children inherited some genius genes from their parents?
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post Oct 6 2009, 11:20 PM

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Glad i was born stupid.

In a way that is far more socially acceptable.
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post Oct 6 2009, 11:34 PM

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being smart is good. being too smart well, im not sure i want such intelligence.

they say ignorance is bliss
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post Oct 7 2009, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(empire23 @ Oct 6 2009, 11:20 PM)
Glad i was born stupid.

In a way that is far more socially acceptable.
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It feels like the same sentiment is held by most of the people posting in this forum.
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post Oct 7 2009, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(pixelsheep @ Oct 7 2009, 12:20 AM)
It feels like the same sentiment is held by most of the people posting in this forum.
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Makes life easier i reckon.
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post Oct 7 2009, 06:53 AM

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hence i would rather be lucky than good.
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post Oct 7 2009, 07:23 AM

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Is this the same topik as the boy from MAS?
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post Oct 7 2009, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(f4tE @ Oct 7 2009, 08:23 AM)
Is this the same topik as the boy from MAS?
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not quite.. that is his personal thread.. this is the thread dedicated to people like him .... a group of people doh.gif
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post Oct 7 2009, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(f4tE @ Oct 7 2009, 07:23 AM)
Is this the same topik as the boy from MAS?
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the boy from Mars topic covers on his past experience as martian, future prediction on earth, and his knowledge on astrophysics.
So happen that the boy from mars is an Indigo Child.

this topic covers specifically on Indigo Child whom are the new century homo-sapien generation of gifted child possessed a very high IQ. <-- Is it real? Yes/No
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QUOTE(empire23 @ Oct 6 2009, 11:20 PM)
Glad i was born stupid.

In a way that is far more socially acceptable.
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XD
Well once heard the saying, 'The most powerful warrior is a lonely man'
Or something along that line..

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QUOTE(~lynn~ @ Oct 7 2009, 01:37 PM)
XD
Well once heard the saying, 'The most powerful warrior is a lonely man'
Or something along that line..
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Very true. The most unique, gifted and/or otherwise special people in the world will always be somewhat distant from society. Society does not accept what is different, instead it chooses to ostracize it. How very sad to see, when some may potentially be able to contribute great things to society given the right conditions.
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post Oct 7 2009, 02:17 PM

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Or mayb during childhood...that gifted child cant really mix with other normal children although same age cause he might think playing those "games"[like hide n seek and etc] is wasting time and so-not-mature >_<
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post Oct 7 2009, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(~lynn~ @ Oct 6 2009, 05:10 PM)
I sometimes to envy such children.. The brilliant mind they possess..
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they have a downside. They dun socialize well with the societies. I been through it before.
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post Oct 7 2009, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(wingcross @ Oct 7 2009, 05:00 PM)
they have a downside. They dun socialize well with the societies. I been through it before.
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OMG...... we have an Indigo child in LYN shocking.gif
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QUOTE(wingcross @ Oct 7 2009, 04:00 PM)
they have a downside. They dun socialize well with the societies. I been through it before.
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biggrin.gif Care to share?
Society has a nasty way of dealing with those of whom they deemed as abnormal.
IMHO, I've always believe that is the reason democracy garnered significantly more preference by the people.

The majority is normal. When there exists a minority of which they deem
1. abnormal
2. threatens their social position
they'll respond rather negatively to them. E.g. if a person is a homosexual, nasty remarks are made (Back then when homosexuality is still a new 'thing').

In this particular case, an indigo child outshines the other normal kids, in terms of brain matter and talent. Feeling left behind, one of the ways to 'get back' at these child is to isolate them.
A negative mindset is 'That person is so much smarter than me. I feel inferior. We just can't communicate'
A positive one, however is 'That person is brilliant. I should mix more with him so I can somehow make an effort to be on par, if not, improve myself.'

Sadly, the negative mindset is always much easier to practice ><
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post Oct 8 2009, 12:38 AM

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very nicely put in the big bang theory:


Sheldon Cooper: You have to check your messages, Leonard! The leaving of the message is one half of the social contract, which is completed by the checking of the messages! If that contract breaks down, then all social contracts break down, and we have anarchy!

Leonard Hofstadter: It must be hell inside your head.

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To me, Indigo Child is just a label that we conveniently give to these few so that we conveniently excuse ourselves of not achieving anything near our true potential. blush.gif

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post Oct 8 2009, 06:34 PM

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QUOTE(-Max91- @ Oct 7 2009, 02:17 PM)
Or mayb during childhood...that gifted child cant really mix with other normal children although same age cause he might think playing those "games"[like hide n seek and etc] is wasting time and so-not-mature >_<
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DAmn it i love playing hide and seek as a child. And damn it i'm so ungifted. grumble.gif
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QUOTE(Xepz @ Oct 8 2009, 05:48 PM)
To me, Indigo Child is just a label that we conveniently give to these few so that we conveniently excuse ourselves of not achieving anything near our true potential.  blush.gif
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A case of making oneself better because one's achievement is lower than the other?

But in this case, the gap of achievement is just too.. big no?
Hence we give them a label
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QUOTE(~lynn~ @ Oct 8 2009, 08:12 PM)
A case of making oneself better because one's achievement is lower than the other?

But in this case, the gap of achievement is just too.. big no?
Hence we give them a label
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Err...I also have very strong artistic ability from young age (before 7) but I would not consider myself Indigo (or any color for that matter) child. Just normal.

But my artistic ability would not be there if it wasn't honed in the 1st place. Even things like IQ can be improved. Does not mean you are born stupid (sorry not mean you ok), you are forever stupid. After all, we only use < 10% of our brain power...So what about the other 90%?

But if Malaysians continue to read only 2 pages a year (according to a survey), then confirm cannot achieve anything la. biggrin.gif


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post Oct 9 2009, 12:43 AM

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QUOTE(wingcross @ Oct 7 2009, 04:00 PM)
they have a downside. They dun socialize well with the societies. I been through it before.
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I don't exactly agree with that statement of yours. Check the second video posted regarding the kid who busted the 150 year old planet theory. He seems absolutely normal, and according to the narrator, behaves like any other kid, cracks jokes and does mistakes. So I don't really think every kid with this problem, or gift rather, would go through that ordeal as you mentioned.

I somehow feel that this gift has something to do with reincarnation. But heh, I really have no proof. Just a slight feeling on it. tongue.gif
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Ahaha..never thought anyone here realize about this issue. Welcome to our world.
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QUOTE(Kitsune_Yuiyean @ Oct 9 2009, 04:46 PM)
Ahaha..never thought anyone here realize about this issue. Welcome to our world.
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You have this 'issue'?
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post Oct 10 2009, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(-Max91- @ Oct 7 2009, 02:17 PM)
Or mayb during childhood...that gifted child cant really mix with other normal children although same age cause he might think playing those "games"[like hide n seek and etc] is wasting time and so-not-mature >_<
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Sounds like me when i was a kid. Its really hard to make friends when you're in this position. I've always been a thinker and its hard to find someone who understands. blush.gif
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QUOTE(Xepz @ Oct 8 2009, 05:48 PM)
To me, Indigo Child is just a label that we conveniently give to these few so that we conveniently excuse ourselves of not achieving anything near our true potential.  blush.gif
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wingcross and xepz - maybe you two should try mensa tests ~ try google it. it is very interesting!
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post Oct 27 2009, 08:57 PM

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QUOTE(wingcross @ Oct 7 2009, 04:00 PM)
they have a downside. They dun socialize well with the societies. I been through it before.
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Indigo Child doesn't require a person to have a lack of the ability to socialize with the society.

I reckon, a more suitable term for you to use, is a Savant. They have a more peculiar tendency to have such downside

like the inability to speak, socialize , and so on.

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post Nov 10 2009, 02:45 PM

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from my pov, delusion currently occurs when d kid was in 10yo or below..
thats y they can imagine their imaginary fren etc...
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this indigo child topic is actually very very widely discussed in neuroscience. it is a gift, most scientists similarise it with savants in terms of character, minus the 'indigo' brain waves and the paranormal abilities, sixth senses whatever. i personally refer to daniel tammet's case to reason this phenomenon.

please research on the works of Doreen Virtue, Lee Caroll, Jan Tober and Nancy Ann Tappe regarding indigo children. xD


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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Nov 10 2009, 02:45 PM)
from my pov, delusion currently occurs when d kid was in 10yo or below..
thats y they can imagine their imaginary fren etc...
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i agree. but indigo children does not have that 'delusion' we normally perceive at 10yo and below. its a phenomenon we're yet to know smile.gif

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i wonder, even d martian call d red planet mars??
i thought we, human, that gave d red planet name as mars...?
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maybe malaysian adiputra fit to be called indigo child?
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QUOTE(sleepsleep @ Nov 12 2009, 03:44 AM)
maybe malaysian adiputra fit to be called indigo child?
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he definitely fitted into this child. Being a CEO of 2 companies, and lecturing Rm6k an hour isnt something we can do at 10 years old. Are they any indigo child else?
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post Dec 1 2009, 07:45 AM

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So what happens if we raise these kids like normal kids like let them watch cartoon & play toys? Will they excel better in life than if they were trained?
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post Dec 6 2009, 08:49 AM

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i not sure is that good to be the gifted 1
but there is no need to envy them
evr1 is born to be a unique person

 

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