LYN H&F is already a flame warzone... In the end, if it works for you, gives you good progress, do it. Otherwise, scrap what you are doing and try something else that will give you results.

Seeing either overweight or scrawny peeps without any good progress after maybe a year or two at bodybuilding flame one another continuously because of some slight disagreement sickens and frightens people away. In the end its the results that matter, are you growing or not, are you achieving your goals? Not typing behind a screen. Things doesn't work the same for everyone, people have different genetics. If a person takes more supplements than real food and has progress, let him be, and vice versa.

Peace. Lift hard.