You see Rain? He damn buff and big size also leh. Not all korean stars like that.

Exactly, they speak as if it is so easy to put on muscle, saying things like don't want too much muscle.

i bet people that say those shit can't even put on the muscle mass they want(no effort/determination), needless to say about putting on so called "too much muscle"

err...ask them if like this?


they're pretty big real life, weights + cardio + diet all the way.

and about your problem doing leg raise also can feel? better consult physician first then


Chow

Yeah, gotta check out wats bugging my back.

And yeah, they think that's too much lol.

About the pic of the guy holding the guitar. I think that's perfectly fine what haha. Depends on the individual I guess.

I think you should do normal planks and side planks instead of situps or crunches. Start small like 20 seconds each side and 20 seconds normal plank. Gradually increase it to 45 seconds in a few weeks. You can see great results just from planks and side planks.

Thank man.
Will keep trying. But as usual it's always the back that gives way first sigh...

So how is the plank and hanging leg raise doing for your back pain?

And what kind of pain are you referring to? And where?
The back is a big area, spine? Upper, mid or lower? Soreness or sharp pain?

Perhaps what you need is some stretching before you do any abs exercise.

Hmm. It's in the lower back.
How do i describe it. It starts with a mild sore that quite quickly increases to a 'strong' pain. Don't know if sharp is the right word. Definitely not like a sudden sharp stitch pain when u don't warm up before a run.
Oh I do some stretching before i go for runs or weight exercises (again, just simple and mild weight exercises like i mentioned in my first post).

Will try the plank and leg raise again later today and see how it goes.

Definitely, go and get checked up. You do not want to further aggravate your back if you have an injury.