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TShtkaki
post Sep 29 2009, 10:24 AM, updated 16y ago

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Since many of us have been doing the FR graph and even waterfall chart, it is better for us to share it here smile.gif .

Also, please share ways / ideas in taming the graph.

Pls also specify the room dimension, any acoustic treatment, etc (if possible)


Mine :

Room size : 10' x 20' (bad room size)
Minimal acoustic treatment with absorption panels and book shelf at the back as diffusor. No bass traps.

Previously

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Sorry for the previous image

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TShtkaki
post Sep 29 2009, 11:16 AM

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Here's the AS-EQ1 :

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TShtkaki
post Sep 29 2009, 11:29 AM

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Jz done the AS-EQ1. I have yet to use 4310 to run Audyysey, which is recommended by most of the avs forummers.

Yes, it is indeed impressive. Here's the review :

http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/acousti...s-as-eq1-sub-eq
TShtkaki
post Sep 29 2009, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(ycs @ Sep 29 2009, 11:37 AM)
I posted this comparison sometime ago but was missed by many; so,  I'll just re-post here for posterity smile.gif

FR graph using REW to demonstrate the effect of my DIY corner bass trap.

1. All bass traps in place.
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2. Remove Front Right corner bass trap.
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That goes to show how effective a bass trap is. Mind to show the bass trap. IIRC, it's a DIY, right?

Back to trim level, the AS-EQ1 calculated the distance and trim level, which I need to set it to my 4310. Trim is at -4dB.
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post Sep 29 2009, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(jchong @ Sep 29 2009, 03:55 PM)
Looking at your graph again, I think the limit of the EQ1's boost is around +10 dB, which is quite good. Some other devices might be limited to +6 dB or less.

Also, can you check with SVS if the EQ1 equalizes below 20 Hz? I notice the portion below 20 Hz looks about the same as the 'before'. Previously I did ask on AVS if MultEQ XT equalizes below 20 Hz but didn't get any definite answer.
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I suspect it could be the ugly room nodes since my room dimension s**ks (10' x 20'). But, I will also ask Ed abt the questions that you raised to double confirm
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post Sep 29 2009, 07:57 PM

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The tone is set at 75dB
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post Sep 29 2009, 10:13 PM

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The graph is quite good considering that it is being done via Auto EQ and SR6003.

jchong,

I have got the answers :


Q1. The dip at 40Hz (must be room nodes) was being rectified to a certain extent; +10dB.

A1 : Yes, it's a room mode. Please try to move the listening position forward or rearward. This is an axial mode and you should be able to move out of it within 2-3 feet in either direction.



Q2: Is there a limit that the AS-EEQ1 can boost; like around 10 dB. Some other devices are very limited to below 6 dB or less.

A2 : Yes, there is a limit; it's 9 dB.


Q3: Does AS-EQ1 equalizes below 20 Hz? I notice the portion below 20 Hz looks about the same as the 'before'. If yes, then what could be the reason of this graph.

A3: Yes, the AS-EQ1 will equalize to 6 Hz with the current firmware/software. Make sure to set your room gain control to Bypass. Also make sure any THX Ultra II boundary gain compensation is set to off/no, and all your speakers are set to Small with 60 Hz for the mains, and 80 Hz for all others. Something else is causing a premature roll-off from 20-15 Hz. The subwoofer should be flat to 15 Hz before roll-off. Move the listening position and try it again.


On the above, I did wrongly set my speakers doh.gif since the front is being set as full range (Large) and 40Hz for center and 60Hz for surr. Lesson learned blush.gif

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post Sep 30 2009, 04:07 PM

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I will do the calibration againto see how the new FR graph will look like. Hopefully that we can see a FR graph of 2 diff makes & models by Sunday.
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post Oct 1 2009, 03:20 PM

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I put it at ear height and done 32 positions (wt AS-EQ1)
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post Oct 7 2009, 06:46 PM

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Hopefully, there will be more FR graphs in coming weeks, if you know what I mean brows.gif

Anfieldude, I might send the AS-EQ1 to one of my cust in PG first for him to try out. Then, you guys turn to lay hands on it. Ok for you all? smile.gif
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post Oct 8 2009, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Oct 7 2009, 03:19 PM)
I posted Ron's room response in the subwoofer thread.
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Bro, can post here to 'streamline' it adn easy for others to view? smile.gif

Btw, EQ1 can do time domain.
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post Oct 8 2009, 07:34 PM

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The EQ1 would be in PG after Deepavali. Eager to see the result.
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post Oct 8 2009, 07:56 PM

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If the customer keep it after the satisfying result, then I'll send another one up. Just for Ron and you to test it out.

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post Oct 9 2009, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(ronnt88 @ Oct 9 2009, 09:16 AM)
wah... htkaki so kind of u... laugh.gif
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Np, bro. Just that I've a 'hidden agenda' tongue.gif

Dying to see the waterfall chart and the time domain correction that EQ1 is capable of. I don't have such equipment to do so at the moment. So, send to anfieldude and you would be ideal. smile.gif
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post Oct 11 2009, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Oct 10 2009, 11:14 PM)
gocitygo's response is good due to a couple of things, room treatment and Audyssey.

Yammy's YPAO is generally not as highly regarded as Audyssey.
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gocitygo's acoustic treatment is impressive smile.gif With the many bass traps and acoustic treatment, it does eliminate most of the acoustic issue normally found in room.

I agree with you o the YPAO. It's proven with my previous FR chart. nothing much can be done by YPAO esp 'valley' rclxub.gif
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post Oct 11 2009, 10:58 PM

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Waiting anfieldude to come over in few weeks time. I will disengage EQ1 to get 'before' reading and then engage it to have a look at the near flat curve.
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post Oct 13 2009, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(jchong @ Oct 13 2009, 10:43 AM)
Yup, bass is a very individual thing. Some people are bass heads and some not.
Moving the sofa away will affect the Audyssey since the sofa acts as an absorber. No wonder the sound in your last run is different. Normally you should leave your room as is.
Yes, should leave the room as it is in order to get better result.

Bro, are you in KL tmw?
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post Oct 14 2009, 10:51 AM

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Here :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV3oLLMgS-M&feature=related
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post Oct 14 2009, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Oct 14 2009, 01:14 PM)
I believe all owners of 3808 can talk to the local dealer to upgrade for free (firmware) to enable the Audyssey pro option.
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Yeah, worth a try to contact WKH. Even for a minimum fee (for those units w/o warranty), IMHO still worth it.
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post Oct 29 2009, 07:43 PM

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I am waiting for someone's FR graph yawn.gif

Mine :

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