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post Oct 22 2009, 03:15 AM

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hi guys, i'm currently using soundmagic PL20, which i think is a great IEM for it's price. but now i'm thinking of upgrading. i'm not using any soundcard or headamps. what kind of earphones could u guys suggest for a strict budget of less than rm150? i'm the sort of person who listens to a lot of vocals and oldies, and i prefer clarity instead of bass. currently interested with Crossroad Mylarone SVi (RM70). is this ok? or do u guys have better suggestions? prefer earbuds, iem also ok, but not headphones though.. sweat.gif thanks in advance!! biggrin.gif

*really interested in the HR2 actually, but way out of budget... sweat.gif

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post Oct 22 2009, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Oct 22 2009, 09:53 AM)
how bout bijou 3?its about rm170.maybe u could stretch ur budget a bit.try bijou 3,less bass,but really detail and quite bright.
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yeah, the bijou seems like a nice choice too. i've been eying the iem for a long time already, hoping that the price will drop, but it doesnt... sweat.gif and i really like the appearance of the bijou too, the gunmetal finish really looks good. but it's still a bit above the budget... even rm150 is actually a stretched budget.. original budget was about rm100... sweat.gif are there any other suggestions? thanks anyway bro! biggrin.gif

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post Oct 22 2009, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(Fred86 @ Oct 22 2009, 01:32 PM)
Actually you prefer earbud... can try xbrand2 or xbrand 1, both also within your budget. I have 3 of them. PL20 is my first IEM, i am enjoy it so much until i get expose to my another earbud, pk3. After you listen to pk3, you will found that PL20 is really lack of bass. You need to push hard in order to get a satisfy bass for PL20. Pk3 also have a good clarity and detail just warmer and the bass is quite good. pk3 has a large quantity of bass but the quality of bass is just satisfactory.

Come back to xbrand2, i just get the both demo unit recently. (Too shame that, i just received the demo unit after a long time i coordinate the bulk for both the earphone). After i try them personally, I was surprised how good is the sound at the price. I also wonder how come Huangyong selling this earbud at this price.  sweat.gif But since i am just a helper, so i cant comment so much on his pricing. BUT for the SQ, the xbrand2 will even better than pk3 which cost around Rm130++. Clarity and detail, xbrand2 is slightly better than pk3 but just the sound is bright and not as warm as pk3. For the bass, there are few buyer say that the xbrand2 is bass shy. To my ears, the xbrand2 has better bass than PL20 in terms of quality and quantity as well. If compare xbrand2 to pk3 in terms of bass, pk3 will have better bass quantity. But for bass quality xbrand2 will be better. xbrand2 bass have better control and accuracy.  nod.gif

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hi, i already check out ur sales thread. it's one of my choices too, really cheap, but the reviews are amazing. biggrin.gif
is it comparable to yuin pk2? very tempting indeed... drool.gif

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post Oct 22 2009, 07:15 PM

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QUOTE(Fred86 @ Oct 22 2009, 03:12 PM)
xbrand2 is not comparable to pk2 yet. But xbrand2 is comparable to pk3.

Huangyong own pk2. From him, xbrand1 will be the one comparable to pk2. I don't have pk2 so cant really make a comparison.  tongue.gif
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aisey... now really interested with xbrand1... did clieos review any of these xbrand earbuds?

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hehe, yeah, besides, it would be hard to review something without a brand. cannot recommend to other people besides lowyatians... tongue.gif so my current choices would be the xbrand1, xbrand2, and mylarone svi biggrin.gif depends on next week budget... tongue.gif thanks for the suggestions everyone! notworthy.gif

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post Jan 1 2010, 04:46 PM

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Hi guys, what sort of headphones would u recommend for a budget of rm400? I'd prefer a full-sized headphone, but hopefully it wont be hard to drive, would be better if it doesnt require an amp to show it's potential. main usage (in fact, the only usage) is for music. was looking at the grado sr80i, but it's a supra-aural headphone, and it probably needs an amp to drive it well.. cry.gif
thanks in advance! notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(moniqee @ Jan 1 2010, 05:57 PM)
Audio TEchnica AD300
Audio Technica A300
Grado SR60
Alessandro MS1

^^ the headphone that doesnt require amp is Audio Technica... which is famous for not requiring an amp...
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QUOTE(duh2k @ Jan 1 2010, 07:18 PM)
The Ms1 doesn't require an amp as it's extremely easy to drive smile.gif sr80's shd be similar though I haven't tried one personally
For a budget of rm400, if you enjoy rock, and don't mind the up front and narrow soundstage, i strongly recommend Ms1 smile.gif
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i listen to oldies a lot, so there's a lot of vocal involved. i've considered the sr60 (and the ms1) since there's so much positive reviews for the grado. prob is, they're supra-aural (on the ear) headphones, which i just cant get used to. sad.gif but still, i might just give it a try. anyway, i cant find any info for the A300. are u sure it's the correct model? thanks for ur suggestions! notworthy.gif


Added on January 1, 2010, 8:07 pmhmm, decided that i might just give the grados and alessandros a try. really like the old-skool look even though it's supra-aural.
@duh2k: i'm pretty much a noob in this section... when u say up front and narrow soundstage, does it mean that it feels as if the band is playing very close right in front of me? sort of like listening to a small speaker which is very close in front me? sorry for the noob question.. sweat.gif

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post Jan 1 2010, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(moniqee @ Jan 1 2010, 08:22 PM)
AD300 = open headphones
A300 = closed headphones ( added bass )
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ohh.. thanks for the explanation! biggrin.gif hmm... now my choices are narrowed down to the alessandro ms1/ms1i and the sr60i. The ms1 should sound better than the sr60i (according to most head-fi forummers), but i'm wondering if the price difference justifies the improvement? rm465 vs rm293 = rm172 difference (can get a cheap headamp for the sr60i) tongue.gif
oh, another question, what's the difference between ms1 and ms1i? is it just the looks? cos i heard they use the same driver (from the grado sr125i)... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(moniqee @ Jan 1 2010, 10:19 PM)
oh... there's no Ms1 liao... only Ms1i i believe...  ^^ if u wan cheaper.. look for 2nd hand at garage sales... ^^ i believe got ppl selling Ms1...
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ohh.. i thought walabies still selling the ms1 in his thread... tongue.gif
haih, now really hard to choose between these two.. ms1 and sr60i... of course the ms1 seems like the ideal choice, but budget is kinda tight... anyway, i'll take a look at the audio-technica headphones u mentioned. thanks for ur help guys! thumbup.gif

-edit- after a bit of researching (googling), it seems that the AD300 is a pretty good choice too... slightly cheaper than the sr60i. soundstage and comfort dont seem to be an issue like the sr60i or the ms1. but i cant find any reviews for the ad400 though... well... i think it's decided then... i'll go for the AD300 for the time being. biggrin.gif

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post Jan 2 2010, 03:08 AM

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moniqee... u mentioned somewhere that the price for the ad300 is rm230... may i know from who/where? really cheap... biggrin.gif thanks for the help! smile.gif
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QUOTE(moniqee @ Jan 2 2010, 07:56 AM)
ops... i forgot Ath headphone sudah naik harga... AD300 is RM280 according to akabane@jackal's thread.... ^^ u can also try pming walabies... ^^
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waaahhh... naik banyak pulak tu... hmm, either way, rm280 is not that expensive. now waiting for walabies' pm. biggrin.gif thanks moniqee!

umm, i have another question for everyone. According to most websites, open-air headphones should provide a very good soundstage. Wide soundstage with good separation of the instruments. that's what they say with the AD300. However, this does not seem to be the case with the grados and alessandros. They're famous for their open-air headphones, yet they're also famous for the narrow soundstage. Is it because of the size of the cans? i mean, their headphones aren't as big as full-sized headphones, thus the narrow soundstage? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(duh2k @ Jan 2 2010, 04:16 PM)
well, open back cans have better soundstage as compared to their closed backed brethren (we're talking same models here) .... but open back =/= big soundstage....soundstage also depends on the headphone smile.gif
i think the sifu's here can give a more detailed explanation as to what gives a pair of cans an awesome soundstage
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ohh... meaning the open back cans do have a wider soundstage compared to similar closed back cans... so i guess if there is a closed back grado, the soundstage would be even narrower... hmm, u're pretty good at explaining. i always get confused by audiophile terms. hahaha tongue.gif thanks! notworthy.gif

QUOTE(Kernkraft400 @ Jan 2 2010, 04:39 PM)
One question, would it be weird to see a person on the subway with Alessandro's MS1i listening to his music? :S
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naah, not weird at all. they look pretty cool actually. but not sure if people nearby would appreciate ur taste in music. if i saw someone with an alessandro in a subway, i would think "damn, those cans are really sweet. wish i could have one. but why is he listening to kris allen?" (it's just an example, i have nothing against kris allen.. sweat.gif ). but really, i think it depends on how much u crank up the volume as well. if u're not the type to push the volume to the max, i dont think people nearby are going to be bothered. it's not like the subway is a quiet and calm place to begin with anyway... sweat.gif


Added on January 2, 2010, 10:36 pm-just wanna add, it would only be unbearably annoying if u sing along to the music. if u dont, i dont think anyone would actually care. at least i dont. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(DarthMaus @ Jan 2 2010, 11:25 PM)
i tried using my ms1i on a bus before...

1.can hear everything "outside" very clearly, therefore, turn up volume a bit  rclxms.gif  tongue.gif
2.then... an aunty, 2 rows behind me goes...  vmad.gif "oi! u don't want to sleep, people want to sleep one leh!" vmad.gif
3.i kwai kwai go to sleep also lor...
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the aunty just jealous lah... laugh.gif
umm, i guess it is quite disturbing to some people... some people mind , some people dont. it's such a shame that this minor flaw causes some people to look into other brands. anyway, between the MS1i and the AD700, which one would u prefer for mainly music listening? (not that i can afford the ad700, but i'll just think of it as the ad300's bigger bro)

@Kernkraft400: PL21 is an IEM. So i guess u can cross it out from ur list. but of course with IEMs, sound leakage wouldnt be an issue.

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QUOTE(DarthMaus @ Jan 3 2010, 11:20 AM)
i feel that the ad700 caters to a wider range of music..it's just that... it's too bright now when it comes to female voices  cry.gif
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oohhh... did u ever got the chance to test the ad500 or ad300? is the sound signature similar? pretty worried cos my playlist are mostly females as well... sad.gif
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QUOTE(DarthMaus @ Jan 3 2010, 01:53 PM)
nope. maybe some of the seniors here can tell u...  icon_question.gif
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ohh, if i'm not mistaken, bro wingster tried the ad300, ad400, ad500, and the ad700. hmm, maybe i'll ask him. thanks anyway bro! notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(Kernkraft400 @ Jan 3 2010, 10:07 PM)
I have bought my Alessandro's MS1i just now. COD with Walabies's partner in KL central a few hour ago.
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so how is it? worth every cent? or need to burn in first? brows.gif
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QUOTE(DarthMaus @ Jan 4 2010, 11:27 AM)
omg...u circumcised the headphone  tongue.gif
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what's wrong with that? after 'circumcise' more syiok maa... more pleasure... for ur ears of course.. tongue.gif

Anyway, if anyone else couldn't decide between the AD series from Audio-Technica and the Grados/Alessandros, here's a short review by ClieOS comparing the AD700 and an Alessandro MS-1. Bye2 $$$... cry.gif
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QUOTE(DarthMaus @ Jan 4 2010, 06:14 PM)
ultimately, trust ur own ears. taste differs anyway. reviews are excellent for a guide but take everything with a pinch of salt  whistling.gif
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i know... but i dunno where can i test all of the cans.. even the pair i'm planning to buy is from online.. anyway, i did try to find various sources of reviews for the AD300, AD400, AD500, AD700, grados and alessandros. Even tried to find reviews comparing the different brands. And i try to relate the reviews to my music taste, and what sort of accessories i have (amps, soundcard, etc, none of which i have). and it seems that the AD500 is the best bet for my budget. biggrin.gif

maybe i can borrow ur AD700 and MS1i, and bro Wingster's AD500 brows.gif

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QUOTE(Fred86 @ Jan 4 2010, 08:01 PM)
AD900  brows.gif
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u wanna sponsor ah bro? just need to add another rm500 to my budget... tongue.gif

QUOTE(DarthMaus @ Jan 4 2010, 08:12 PM)
we are actually having a little gathering at genting highlands sometime in feb (if all goes well). look out for it at the audio technica thread. do join us if u are free. u can test all my low end cans up to akabane's super duper hi-end cans  rclxms.gif  drool.gif  brows.gif not forgetting bro edifier's godly can  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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i know about the gathering, but i dont think can find the time (and permission) to go there la... huhu.. my mom would be furious if she finds out.. tongue.gif besides, i'm afraid all of ur high-end cans will poison me even more... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(DarthMaus @ Jan 4 2010, 09:08 PM)
err.... go genting and do research?
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if she falls for that, i might as well ask her for the "budget" for the research, and get myself both the AD500 and the MS1i, or maybe AD900. tongue.gif anyway, wish u guys have lots of fun. thumbup.gif

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