Hi everyone! Happy new year!

I just got a female MS... and guess what... really naughty... = ="
I dont remember having this much problem when i raised my miniature pincher last time.

I'm actually very interested with gatherings coz i want my MS to socialize a little bit. Dont want to repeat the same mistake i did with my Min Pincher.

Hi puddy cat

the brownish stain appears when the coat is left wet often. That is why, i dont let my MS drink from a bowl, but use a feeding bottle (mine's got a white beard)

Leaving the coat wet often is also not a good idea coz ms are prone to skin problems. Infact, i blow dry my pup after every bath.

It usually goes away after bath, but if the stain is too stubborn... there's some formulas you can get from the pet shop to remove the brown stains. I've never used them before because the brown stains are manageable for my pup, but i did ask my vet about it

Hey... that's a lovely fellow you have there itsClois

btw did you ask your breeder? if i'm not mistaken, white schnauzers have a variety. Some even after all the brown hair fade off, the white colour wont be pure white, but beige in color.

I'm not too sure as i only heard from ppl, never experience it my own. Maybe someone that own a white MS can help to clear your doubts. I'm sure there's quite a number of ppl here own a white color ms.

If not, i'll ask my regular pet shop owner about it for you (i'm going there, probably on saturday), she owns a white ms which she imported from Taiwan, so i'm sure she should be able to give some advice

This post has been edited by choongal: Jan 8 2010, 03:15 AM

could the discoloration be caused by the food? Because i heard from a pet shop owner that there are customers who complain about their MS discoloring when they eat certain type of dog food.

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Added on January 8, 2010, 6:50 pmoic... thx for the info
But how to differentiate? after all the pups dont necessarily turn out white from birth. Also, not all pet shops nowadays are trustworthy and reliable.

Besides, i would'nt want to exchange a pup i bought just because he's the wrong color (supposing the breeder allows it)... best to be able to spot the difference from the beginning.

This post has been edited by choongal: Jan 8 2010, 06:50 PM

Nope, i dont intend to show Just curious only, and also for knowledge in case i want to buy a white schnauzer in the future
Frankly speaking, i love all the colours (white included). I have a salt n pepper pup now. After i graduate, i plan to get another one (maybe a pure black one first), coz i just cant afford to keep more than 1 schnauzer at the moment

but the black one look damn classy

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Added on January 10, 2010, 1:18 amin malaysia also have... but not the yogi pet pee tray la... it's similar in function (as a pee try), but not as convenient. The one i saw in malaysia is kind of small... and you cannot just buy 2 units and fix it together like the yogi pet pee tray 1. However, if your dog is a small breed and FEMALE, then should be ok i guess.

you can buy that 1... or...

you can get a few friends that are interested in buying some items from the website and combine bill so that can reach sd$100

or... you can use a wee wee pad with tray

This post has been edited by choongal: Jan 10 2010, 01:18 AM

I'm using wee wee pads for my pup too... but without the tray lol!
Like Jenny said.... it works...

after a week, she knows how to pee... in 2 weeks she knows how to poo. Really happy except on certain occasions when she get's too excited, she'll poo somewhere else
but, at 3 months, she's still a baby, so it's excusable... haha

MS are relatively easier to toilet train, my pup knows where to pee after 2 week... compared to my miniature pincher, which took about 1+ month. Toilet training is hard work, i must admit that. I lost lots of sleep during the first week coz i just don't know her habits yet, and always on the look out.

Maybe you'd want to read up on some tips on how to toilet train a miniature schnauzer... i believe they are really stubborn and need loads of praise when they do it right. Try to train up pup urself first before seeking help... i feel that during this training time is when the bonding between the pup and you happens... surely you would'nt want to miss that.

For example, i'm the one training the pup which is probably why she's closer to me compared to my parents and bro.

i thought dogs don't like lemon and orange smell.... if use this recipe then it would be a torture for them... T_T

Here's a story for you guys to laugh about...
I usually let go my pup (Tashi) in the house during the evening... but there was one occasion when i didn't know that she poop in the hall until the next day, coz when i let her go again the following day... i saw her pick up something (with her mouth) and went to her wee wee pad, then she drop the poop there = =" I didn't know if i should scold her or not... so i pretend i never see it lol...

How much are you feeding him? Did you increase the food amount in the last few days?
Maybe the amount is just too much for him to take in at once, especially if he's a puppy.
If you soak the kibbles, his beard is going to get dirty... i tried it before, not a very pleasant experience

I think pure breed dogs have higher chance of getting health problems compared to mixed/mongrels. Maybe it's because of generations of interbreeding which caused this. It also depends on what type of epilepsy it is... hopefully it's something external that caused your dog to react to it with a seizure... however, if it's genetic, then it's best to spay/neuter ur dog to avoid the genes from being passed down... for the sake of min schnauzers.

There is no medication for prevention... but there are medication to manage epilepsy. If managed properly, ur dog can live a very normal and happy life with you and your family. Don't give up

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Added on January 30, 2010, 9:23 pmI prefer if she poop on the wee wee pad in the first place...

This post has been edited by choongal: Jan 30 2010, 09:23 PM

No offence, but frankly speaking... maintaining the dog itself would cost your friend a minimum of rm2k a year (excluding the first year)... if she's lucky. From the moment she take the puppy home, she'll need to ready 1k to buy food, bedding, treats, toys, vet visits, vaccination, heartworm medication, cage, wee wee pad (if use), certain accessories, grooming.

Also, MS are prone to allergies which means she can't just go to giant and buy alpo. For example, my MS is allergic to beef, chicken and LAMB! which means, i can only feed her salmon, which is a pain in the arse coz i'm allergic to seafood... so when ever my MS licks my hand i get a rash.

Grooming is not a luxury for MS... It's a necessity... especially when it's so hot at certain time of the year... an ungroomed MS will suffer and their hair grow fairly fast!

Just thought i'll give you a warning before your friend brings back an MS... However, it doesn't mean she cant keep a dog, coz there are many other lovable breed out there which need less maintainance and time compared to an MS...

Hi! Glad to have another MS lover around
So sry about your loss... although it's been 2 years, it must still be sad

Good luck in finding an MS puppy that you'll feel connected with! I was lucky to find mine No need to rush, after all, once bought you'll have him for his whole life!

Anyway, i'll keep my eye open, if i c any MS puppy that you may like i'll tell u about it

edit: Also, would be great to get your new pup from a responsible breeder... would'nt want more ppl encouraging puppy mills.

This post has been edited by choongal: Feb 3 2010, 02:27 AM

Trust me, sometimes i find it hard to believe it myself
The reason why i got an MS (besides bcos it's cute) is bcos it's a hypoallergenic dog... Well, i'm nt allergic to the dog, but to her food

I was supposed to feed her lamb, but she started scratching after i gave her some lamb treats... Although i'm not too sure if she's allergic to the lamb, i stopped it. Now her itching has stopped as well. Maybe when she's older i'll try to introduce lamb to her diet again and see if it's real allergy or not.

Usually, i'm fine when playing with her... on worst days i'll just take an antihistamine tablet so that i don't scratch my skin off lol!

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Added on February 3, 2010, 1:28 pmi wan go, but my puppy... nt yet finish vaccination

This post has been edited by choongal: Feb 3 2010, 01:28 PM

Hi again!
Just wanted to let you know i saw an adult male MS up for adoption in the 'adoption thread'. It would be great if you like him

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/443156/+700

They didn't state the reason for putting the dog for adoption, but he did mention he wants to let go of them quick. I know you may prefer to buy a new puppy from a pet store, but i thought i'd let you know about this 'soon to be homeless' MS first

I would have loved to bring him home myself, but I already have 2 dogs at home, and my MS is still a puppy... plus, i'm still a student, 2 MS will burn a huge hole in my purse

Hey that's great! Hope there's instant chemistry between to two of you! Don't be too hard on urself if you decide nt to adopt him, atleast you gave him a try

Btw, i saw a male MS puppy, salt n pepper uncropped ears in Pets4u Puchong. Unfortunately, he's already sold, but i'm sure they will be bringing in a new MS puppy soon. Mayb you can check out the petshop and give them ur contact number so they'll call you when a new pup shows up. I usually do my doggy groceries there, the puppies look healthy and clean, plus the ppl there are really friendly and genuinely love animals. Also, i get alot of advice on caring for my MS coz they are MS owners too!

Good luck!

when you say size... u mean age?
A MS is a MS... it's size is already according to the breed standard. As long as the size of the MS is within the range as stated in the Kennel club, there shouldn't be any difference in price... But of course, this is Malaysia... n the ppl will find any reason just to jack up the price of the puppy... no offence.

Color will influence the price... standard colors black, salt n pep, black n silver have different price but shouldn't be too much of a difference. However, white MS if i'm nt mistaken are mostly imported from Taiwan, so, they are much more expensive.

Color does play a role in determining the price of the pups. I think it's because of all the work the breeder has to go through when he's planning to allow his dogs to mate. Wanting a certain color puppy would require a certain type of colored parent. For example, black n silver puppies can only be produced if both parents are black n silver.

Salt n pepper is the typical color for a MS... the most common. The up side of having a salt n pepper pup is it doesn't really matter if the color fades a little, as it's not too obvious and it's acceptable. I think some ppl would prefer salt n pepper, maybe because it looks more original to a schnauzer... after all, black n silver color probably comes from the min pincher gene. Also because you wouldn't have to worry if the solid black MS will have discoloration when he's older, can't really tell for sure while he's a puppy.

Anyway, it's all personal preference. To me, I don't care if my puppy fades to white or chocolate when she grows up (provided it's not due to health issues). All i care is i love her very much. As long as i don't breed them, i don't pollute the gene pool... so, i have no problem taking in the 'odd-ies'

In short... Just pick the puppy which u fell in love with. lol!

This post has been edited by choongal: Feb 5 2010, 08:38 PM

Yeah... i understand that. My dad is like that too.... even when i bought my MS he can't seem to understand why i need to buy an expensive dog when plenty of them is on death row in the pound poor dogs...

Anyway, i don't think you'll be able to get a puppy here, coz the types of owners here,

1) breed, sell off the first litter, then spay during surgery
2) don't want to breed at all.
3) alien, dont agree with either option 1 or 2

Your best bet would be to ask a close friend who happens to have a pair of MS, maybe he/she may give you one when a litter is produced... though i don't really encourage ppl breeding their own dogs giving away puppies means taking away a good home for a homeless dog in the shelter.

You can also try to wait n c if there's any MS for adoption. In fact, a few days ago, someone put his male MS for adoption. I'm not sure if it's still available but you can check it out.

here's the link: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/443156/+700

Good luck!