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Kelvw
post Apr 7 2018, 05:26 PM

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Today is the Supetrunk show in London. Just making my way there. Will post some photos when I can ☺ will be interesting to see various shoemakers especially the japanese ones
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post Apr 10 2018, 07:33 AM

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QUOTE(niakulah @ Apr 9 2018, 07:25 AM)
How did you find the quality of skolyx's new line bro? The price is very reasonable.
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I didn't look at the Skolyx's private label in detail as they were promoting the TLB brand which was much better. In fact I'm very impressed with it, bevelled waist with closed channel stitching at very reasonable price. Sub £350?
The patina on the shoes looks good too.

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They offer patina service too

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post Apr 19 2018, 08:53 PM

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Green shoes are quite easy to wear on the contrary and I love them!

Check these out by Norman Vilalta

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This is my current favourite. It's lovely when it patina even more over time

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Black shoes with a hint of green showing through

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I need another pair with a shade in between sweat.gif

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post May 8 2018, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(niakulah @ May 8 2018, 01:32 PM)
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Finally got a can of mirror gloss, tonight I'll see if it lives up to the hype.

And 2 tubes of edge dressing in mid and dark brown to fix my Cheaney's from a few posts back. I will be sanding down the welt and use these to re-colour it after.
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nice one. Get some before and after shots too.
love those edge dressing, makes the shoe looks like new again. I tend to apply it with a cotton bud for more control.
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post May 10 2018, 06:51 AM

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QUOTE(niakulah @ May 9 2018, 08:19 AM)
Aaaand the mirror gloss hype is well deserved
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It's not a proper mirror shine (which honestly I have never achieved before), but I only spent about 15 minutes on it last night, including time taken for some light conditioning and creme.

I'll be voting in style today.  thumbup.gif
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That's a good shine thumbsup.gif . More reasons to celebrate the historical event that unfolded.

A few more layers will bring out the shine even more flex.gif
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post Jul 31 2018, 05:17 AM

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QUOTE(stfsoelyn @ Jul 30 2018, 11:02 PM)
Oh hi, niakulah. Thanks for dropping by! These are the pics (hope they show up, cos Post Preview dont show the pics)- ones right, ones left.

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I think even toe taps are out, cos the cobbler would need to shave off about 1 mm or so,
right? which would shave off the threads at the toe!
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Looking at your photo. It looks absolutely fine even it wears down closer to the thread. Good year welted are quite robust but just remember to wear in rotation. I have a pair which I wear quite often and still have no issues with the toes.


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post Aug 1 2018, 05:20 AM

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QUOTE(stfsoelyn @ Jul 31 2018, 02:49 PM)
@Kelvw  Hi, Kelv, thanks for your views! BTW, I do miss your new shoe postings, been too busy, huh?

@niakulah  Vow! So they really DO shave off the toe threads - OMG. If you did not tell me your experience,
I would have gone: That shoe is kaput!

Anyway, thanks guys. I feel much better. Now I can go clickety-clacking for a while, on the leather sole,
before I put on a topy!
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Here's one of mine that I wear quite regularly. It's worn down quite a bit but then I'm always in a carpeted environment. Sometimes I do walk around London with it on lots of uneven pathways but still no issues. As you can see it has worn out a bit on the toe but seemed to have levelled out after awhile. I think it would last me a few good years as I rotate my shoes regularly haha.

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No new shoes lately as I have spent too much on watches cry.gif I did however did some routine polishing.

Here's my Crockett&Jones Albion. It needed some nourishing

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post Aug 2 2018, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(Old Red Eyes @ Aug 2 2018, 12:46 AM)
I've got this one. Well, sort of got it. I have the right foot. Leffot sent me the left foot in blue. Waiting to reunite the green pair.
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Nice one! Do post some pics when you receive the other one. I love Norman's shoes and hoping to save up for one. He did invite me over to his workshop if I ever drop by Barcelona.
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post Aug 2 2018, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(hanhanhan @ Aug 2 2018, 07:39 AM)
thank you for the recommendation, however the missus frowned upon my preference for expensive shoes as i do not take any care of it at all (no rotation, no polish, walk in the rain, gravel road etc)

that being said, are there any value for money 'daily beater formal shoes' in the market?

so far i've been wearing hush puppies (around rm200 after discounts) and without any care they tend to spoil every year or so..
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Agree with Semibilan, do wear in rotation and it saves you money on the long run. It doesn't have to be too expensive, you could look at Barkers, Loake, Meermin and other Spanish shoemakers which are pretty good for the money. Take care of your shoes and they take care of you.
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post Aug 7 2018, 07:24 AM

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QUOTE(Old Red Eyes @ Aug 2 2018, 11:14 PM)
Will do, on the shoe pics. Somewhat funny story about Norman (and Ramon Cuberta). I actually did kinda meet him, I think, about a week ago. I was on a work trip in Barcelona and wanted to visit both famed shoemakers, or at least their shops. I found the Vilalta boutique and walked in to find a selection of breathtakingly beautiful shoes in the front and an 'open kitchen' sort of shop in the back, where one Spanish man was quietly plying his trade. He greeted me, but never said anything else, something I took to mean, perhaps, that he does not speak English. So I shopped for a while longer and left, which is okay, as I didn't plan on buying anything at full retail anyway, and I didn't see evidence of seasonal sales.

The Meermin shop absolutely did not disappoint. The unlined calf loafers are indeed delightful. I snatched a pair in brown, and it literally does 'fit like a glove', in that it fits so close to the foot but absolutely comfortably. These will get a whole lot of wear, I am sure. They are on the Ron last, which is the more forgiving of their loafer lasts, I am told. I also picked up a pair of string loafers in rapello suede on the Hiro last, which is noticeably smaller around the vamp. Since I was saving all the tax and shipping and duties, I splurged on a pair of cognac museum calf monkstraps, which just kept calling my name. The shop itself is beautifully appointed, complete with a selection of beautiful women's shoes, and of belts and bags and wallets. And fur rugs. Truly a delightful experience to shop there, it was.

In my opinion, the value calculation when comparing Meermin and Carmina swings wildly to the Meermin side. To me, Carmina shoes feel overpriced -- well, at least in comparison to Meermin. I just don't see enough differences between the two to justify the gulf between their pricing. I'm happy to own a couple pair of Carminas, but happier to own the Meermins.
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Thanks for the comprehensive write up. Norman is a really nice chap, I did meet up with him at the London trunk show for a chat. His finishing on the shoes is fab! I was so tempted to pull a trigger on one but I think I would do when I pop over to his workshop. Did you take any photos of the shops?

Unfortunately I've not had a chance to try out Meermins as it's not readily available in Uk either. I do like some of the styles and choices available but I have to see one in person. I am surprised that you mentioned about going up half a size. Usually it's going down in size for me, at least for European shoemakers.
The other one to look for is Carlos Santos from Portugal, lovely shoes for the money.

Finally got my EG back as they had to remake me a new pair. Decided to give it some light toe polish over the weekend.
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post Aug 9 2018, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(stfsoelyn @ Aug 9 2018, 02:06 PM)
Man, every time I read your posts, I need to put on sunglasses!

I see the shoe horn gets a fair bit of use?
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Lol thanks. It does get used a but but i don't like bending down when putting on my shoes. Those streaks you see are natural and made from actual horn smile.gif it's pretty cool as every horn is different.

I bought another one and much longer this time at 20"

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post Aug 12 2018, 08:02 PM

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Pop by The Jaunty Flaneur over at Savile Row on my day off to catch up with some friends. They do incredible patina and polishing work. I still have a lot to learn cry.gif

Here's PJ polishing the toecap

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Still half way through

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and it's not even done yet blink.gif

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post Aug 20 2018, 01:31 AM

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picked up a pair of Crockett & Jones burgandy Pembroke over the weekend. Perfect for rainy days with storm welt.

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post Aug 21 2018, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(stfsoelyn @ Aug 20 2018, 07:49 PM)
Beautiful color! Would the soles be rubber, seeing as the shoes are for rough weather?
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Yup rubber soles and storm welt. I had a similar pair in green from Cheaneys which was fantastic when we had a downpour about a week ago. Feet was absolutely dry and water just rolled off the leather. It still looked pristine at the end of the day.
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post Aug 21 2018, 07:32 PM

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A bit of shoe shining over the weekend

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and then over to my CJ Monkton

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Doing the right shoe first

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QUOTE(hanhanhan @ Sep 5 2018, 03:02 PM)
duly noted! will head over to choose a pair soon!
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Walking through pebble is fine but definitely will wear it out prematurely. If you're really concern Loake has some rubber dianite soles that you could also wear rain or shine. Most importantly is to wear it every alternate days and use shoe trees. That would prolong the life of your shoes.

I do tend to be a bit cautions with corners when I wear dress shoes. I do get some scuffs at the end of the day but some polishing every week will help maintain it and looks as new again.
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post Jan 4 2019, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(Adrian_Alastair @ Jan 4 2019, 04:01 PM)
I have a pair of black and coffee colored dress shoes. Safe to use just neutral cream and neutral polish throughout the shoe's lifespan or do I need to get colored version?
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For conditioner, it's neutral in colour so that's fine. But for shoe cream and wax, I would suggest to use accordingly to your shoe colour as neutral wax creates white cracks if it hardens in creased areas. It's more prominent on dark coloured shoes. I use neutral wax sparingly and usually when I need to create a toe cap shine.
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QUOTE(TschussFreund @ Aug 12 2019, 12:54 PM)
Wahh. That's really lucky. If I do get the Strands, I'll probably be using it once-twice a week as well. I'd actually love to use them on a daily basis but I'm worried that I'd wear it down too quickly. Thinking of getting Chelseas for my daily usage, but then I'd be out of my fashion budget for this year, haha.

Burgundy ain't my cup of tea. I only like them for ties and pocket squares. I have a thing for shades of brown, heh. I feel that they are really underrepresented in classic/semiformal fashion, with most of the love going towards shades of blue and grey.

I may be going to a trip to London next year, do you know if Pediwear has a physical store that I could visit? Or for that matter, any good physical stores in London? If so, I'll wait till next year to get the Strands/Aldwychs. I might visit P Lal during Black Friday if they have any sales — do you, by any chance, know if they'll have these? I won't mind a discount of a buck or two. If not, I'll probably wait for Christmas to check them out, haha.
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Plenty of shoe shops in London if you head down to Jermyn Street and Christmas is a good time to grab some bargains especially on Boxing day. I believe most of the shoe shop sales starts around the 27th Dec. Every english shoemakers is along that street from the start to the end of it. You'll find CJ, John Lobb, Cheaney, Trickers, EG, Loake, Church's, Grenson, Barker, Foster & Son, J.M Weston, Bowen..

John Lobb bespoke over at St,James street is worth a visit too as it's like a blast from the past. They don't have any RTW but you can happily browse through their archives and other bespoke shoes on display.

Then head over to Savile Row after that to check out Gaziano & Gerling, Ascot Shoes (Vass shoes) and not too far from there to the Royal Arcade is George Cleverly. If you're into mens wear, you will find plenty of tailoring at Savile Row.

It may be a good time to shop here too since the £ has gone down the toilet after the Brexit fiasco. doh.gif


If you have the time, Northampton could be a good place to check out the factory shops too.

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post Aug 13 2019, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(TschussFreund @ Aug 13 2019, 02:22 PM)
Oh damn, thanks! That's a lot of info. I'm planning for a trip March/May next year though, hahaha. Savile Row is way over my budget, only limiting myself to around 1.4K per pair of shoes. You a Londoner? hmm.gif
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I'm about 1.5 hours train ride to London, so I'm there quite often but it's getting pricey for a day out.

You may want to give your budget a bit of a stretch. 1.4k would probably get you Barkers or Loake before sale. If you have about £350 or a bit more will allow you a better selection from the others. Don't forget you get about 16-18% VAT back as well.

I forgot to add, check out J.FitzPatrick shoes at Soho, short walk from Savile Row. The shoes are reasonable as it's Spanish made. If you prefer a range of English, Italian and Spanish made shoes then Harrods & Selfridges will have them in stock. If you're into brands/fashion, you shouldn't miss out Bicester Village. They have a direct train from London now.
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QUOTE(TschussFreund @ Aug 14 2019, 09:05 AM)
Ahh, okay. Loake shoes are currently the ones I have in mind. If I had that extra 350 pounds I'd buy another one, just so that I'm able to rotate between two pairs of shoes rather than taking out all the abuse on one pair. VAT sucks, haha. I've heard of J.FitzPatrick shoes, their suede loafers look beautiful. I'd love to visit Bicester Village! It seems like quite the place to do a little shopping. Looked at their website; they have a truly astounding variety of products. Thanks!  biggrin.gif
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Church's have an outlet at Bicester Village, if I remember correctly their shoes starts from £250 onwards. Also if you get the chance to go to CJ Factory in Northampton, they have seconds from £180 which is a bargain but they are only open on Friday & Saturday. It gets quite busy and the only problem is you would never know what's in stock and they go quite quickly. There's usually quite a lot of Japanese tourist.
Cheaney's and Barkers factory shop is pretty good too but not easily accessible unless if you have a car/taxi.

However being seconds, it's always worth checking what the defects are. Some are not really noticeable.

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