hey guys just wanted to ask something thats been on my mind for a long time.. couldn't get a real answer

firstly, are fresh fruit juices and whole fruit the same?



secondly,

let say a normal dinner ( rice + meat + vege )

x amount of calories
y amount of protein
z amount of vit

and (empty calories like potato chip/alcohol/cake/ice cream + multi vit + whey) + fruit (for fibre)

x amount of calories
y amount of protein
z amount of vit

if the 2 have same amount of nutritional value.. in terms of the numbers.. are they actually the same? (ignore fibre.. fruits will make up for the vege part)

i'm really having problems eating enough calories a day.. chocolates, ice cream, cookies, cakes are my best frens to make up for it now.. other than my main meals

thx for all the help

yuan wu : hey yea thats me bro, u coming back next month rite?

the thing is.. junk food easier to eat than eating fruits.. lol.. need to cheat a bit.. eat more junk food for calorie LOL

ps : knew u would be the best person to ask haha.. hoping u would reply also

jamis : goal is to gain weight by building muscle

hm.. what i would like to know is if someone just takes whey and eat cakes while take multi vit and eat some fruits.. will they get the same nutrients and results from those taking whole food that contain same amount of nutrients.. the reason i ask is cause it is much easier to eat junk food for the calories than rice..

hahahaha i know carbs don't build muscle.. can i just eat whey to replace the protein instead LOL

haha.. yea.. i don't think im gonna do it.. i was just wondering if it works the same thats all.. jus curious.. thx for all the replies guys =)

lol~ i came across the milk thread.. i think i'll add in 1L of milk a day for extra calories ><

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Added on October 1, 2009, 3:01 pmoh.. and also i bought mixed nuts and raisins from some organic shop.. and muesli + milk as snack meals now.. if still cant gain weight.. i need to consider weight gainer adi.. lol!

This post has been edited by gooni3: Oct 1 2009, 03:01 PM

i'll close this in 24 hours if nobody replies.. if i happen to forget.. mod please help thx..