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 AMD® Socket AM2&AM3 Overclocking V20, The times moves on..Can AMD Survive?...

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BuckRoger
post Nov 4 2009, 10:08 PM

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just want to show off. tongue.gif




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post Nov 4 2009, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Nov 4 2009, 10:19 PM)
for adik mozart...  tongue.gif

*just a warm up, mite not gud enuf but i'd say not bad, not bad at all...  nod.gif

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wanna ask smething how to raise the NB volt??? tongue.gif


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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Nov 4 2009, 10:15 PM)
prime stable? no?
i saw 1.5vcore there  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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nope cry.gif

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post Nov 4 2009, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(BuckRoger @ Nov 4 2009, 10:24 PM)
wanna ask smething how to raise the NB volt??? tongue.gif


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nope  cry.gif
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btw, my HDD fail on long DST not sure whether if it affected prime95, (lazy to send for RMA, this is second time fail. seagate... seagate haihhhhh...)


Added on November 4, 2009, 11:20 pmNorthbridge

Whenever one is talking about the North Bridge (NB) of a Phenom II, it is safe to assume that they are talking about the CPU-NB. The CPU-NB is a section of the CPU that controls the L3, Memory Controller and the Hyper-Transport (HTT). As mentioned before the CPU-NB and the HTT have different multipliers, please remember this.

When you overclock your CPU, the higher you go the more likely you will need to stabilize the CPU-NB. What do I mean by this? As the CPU increases its speed to calculate data, so must the speed of which the CPU communicates with other components on the Motherboard: chipset, memory, etc. Let me take the classic example of a 4.0 GHz 940BE and its CPU-NB. If you were to leave the CPU-NB at 1.8 GHz stock then the data calculated by the CPU would create a bottleneck and thus resulting in errata errors or CPU errors. So in order to balance these speeds a CPU-NB clock of 3.0 GHz would be needed. In most cases of high OC’s that result in crashes; the CPU-NB is usually the culprit.

I have constructed a table at which your CPU-NB should be at with ‘Y’ CPU Speed. Please note that there is a +/- 200 MHz difference for each step. In order to find your speed without my table, you can use my formula: CPU-NB Frequency (+/-200) = (CPU-Frequency * 2 ) / 3.15.


Highlighted areas are the recommended speeds of which to run the CPU-NB

As you can see with Table 3, these are the support frequencies of your CPU-NB at X CPU frequency. Of course, as you increase the CPU-NB frequency, you have to increase the CPU-NB voltage.

Let me put this in practice, before you start to debate my theorem.



Highlighted areas are the recommended speeds of which to run the CPU-NB

Now that you have seen actual data charts you can criticize my theorem, do not worry I already do it myself. In practice it does not work 100%. Actually I have Super Pi 1M, 3D Mark 06, PC Mark 05 and Geekbench charts as well showing that the 2800 MHz NB usually is top of the charts rather than the recommended speeds by my calculations. Which to me, is fine. The idea behind the formula is a rough estimate of what you should be at with ‘Y’ CPU Frequency.

What you should get from this section is an understanding of the importance of the CPU-NB and how it effects your overclocking process. By all means you should think about looking at the CPU-NB each and every time when try to push for a different CPU Frequency.



Can anyone elaborate more abt this?? dont quite understand smile.gif

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post Nov 4 2009, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(colinwong89 @ Nov 4 2009, 11:39 PM)
In short, he's trying to say that for every MHz you increase on the processor, you need to appropriately increase the speed of the CPU-NB as well. Do keep in mind that raising the CPU-NB increases the Memory Read Latency (known as MRL); the proper way is to keep increasing CPU-NB speeds till you do not see anymore significant gain, then tweak the MAL lower with CPU-Tweaker or AOD. smile.gif
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how to increase CPU-NB (its not the HT speed right?) ? & What is stock CPU NB vcore?? (mine show NB vid is at 1.15 in aod)
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post Nov 5 2009, 01:17 AM

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ok, now my NB multi (10.00 x) x HTT ref. clock (243.01) = NB Speed (2430.0 +-)

Vimc (what is this tongue.gif) = CPU NB vid

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post Nov 5 2009, 09:49 AM

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is it Vimc is the Memory vid?? like im using 1066mhz @ 2.2v?? red reflect Vimc?? no...?? tongue.gif
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post Nov 5 2009, 10:45 AM

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if my NB Speed = 2430.0 run on vNB = 1.15v, is it normal??
or can anyone advise me what is the suitable vNB ?? & what is the safe range of vNB?


Thanks,

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post Nov 14 2009, 12:15 PM

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questions :

why does my vcore on am3 keep on going up & down??

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post Nov 14 2009, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Nov 14 2009, 12:19 PM)
Does the vcore goes up and down with the cpu speed ka? If yes its normal bcoz of ur CnQ..
If no, it could be vdroop, it's normal for cpu to have a bit of fluctuation in its core volt.. Just make sure the fluctuation isn't too big smile.gif
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thanks for the answer, what if the flunctuation is big?? what caused this?? err.. PSU?
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post Nov 14 2009, 07:01 PM

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reporting!!! x4 - 3.8ghz prime95 stable!!! rclxms.gif




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post Nov 14 2009, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Nov 14 2009, 07:12 PM)
gpu is far higher...
may i know which one is ur cpu temp?
owh wai...good work there mate...

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59'C i guess tongue.gif... how to check the temp?? once turn to x4 the core temp show 0'C tongue.gif (need advice for this, anyone can lead me how to check core temp on the unlock chip biggrin.gif, thanks)

btw, this is my x2 @ 4.0ghz rclxm9.gif

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post Nov 14 2009, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(Michael_G @ Nov 14 2009, 01:22 PM)
okie my spec -

CPU - X3 720 BE on stock HSF
RAM - DDR3 2x2Gb 1333 KVR
MB  - MSI 770 C45
PSU - CM PowerExtreme 460W
GPU - HD4770 Sapphire
HDD - 500GB WD Green

and my setting in bios -

AMD Cool' n Quiet - Disabled
CPU FSB Frequency - 200 (Default)
CPU Ratio - x14 (Default)
Adjusted CPU Frequency (MHz) - 2800 (Default)
Adjust CPU-NB Ratio - Auto (Default)
Adjusted CPU-NB Frequency (MHz) - 2000 (Default)

EC Firmware - Special
ACC - Auto

Auto OC Technology - Disabled (Default)
Multistep OC Booster - Disabled (Default)
HT Link Frequency (MHz) - 2000 (Default)

CPU VDD Voltage - Auto (Default)
CPU-NB VDD Voltage - Auto (Default)
CPU Voltage - Auto (Default)
CPU-NB Voltage - Auto (Default)
Dram Voltage - Auto (Default)
NB Voltage - Auto (Default)
HTLink Voltage - Auto (Default)
SB Voltage - Auto (Default)
Spread Spectrum - Enabled (Default)

i only change 3 thing in my bios...
AMD Cool and Quiet, EC Firmware and ACC only.. the rest are default...
what do i need to change to stable my computer?
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what is EC Firmware??
btw theres one option in bios called "hware monitior" it can be set to shut the pc off when cpu temp goes up to certain temp, mayb u can chek this out (my advise is get a better cooler smile.gif)
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post Nov 16 2009, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(antonio @ Nov 16 2009, 08:47 PM)
I don't know  rclxub.gif hehehehe  tongue.gif

Between what???? 0-300? 300-700? Be specific or someone might show you the wrong path.... brows.gif

Btw, lets play guessing game....

What is the actual vcore currently??

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1.424 V is the correct one biggrin.gif. im sure the AOD cant read ur mobo spec biggrin.gif

errr,, doesnt ur nbvid is quite high?? 1.3v

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post Nov 17 2009, 12:46 AM

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QUOTE(antonio @ Nov 17 2009, 12:22 AM)
Wrong...teetttttttttttt... unsure.gif
Also wrong...teetttttt.... sweat.gif
The actual voltage for the Vcore is 1.459v (tested with DMM)  shocking.gif
The actual voltage for the CPU-NB is 1.429v (tested with DMM)
NB VID is the 790FX chip itself...which is 1.3v ( not yet tested wif DMM)

ini mobo banyak jahat worrrr...OV tak ingat punye... sweat.gif


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Owh ok...then let me see.... hmm.gif
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What is DMM?? lol..


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post Nov 17 2009, 01:07 AM

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QUOTE(antonio @ Nov 17 2009, 12:49 AM)
No software bro, just points on the mobo itself...

Hell??? hell is just to boot the mobo!!! wakkakakaka cry.gif
Look below;

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DMM =  Digital Multi Meter
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damn!! i got one of those too.. last time i play around with my CCFL inverter, with that thingy & next thing i know.....kabushhhhhhh.. something blow, white & black smoke, with that burn smell.. blush.gif lucky im still alive tongue.gif
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post Nov 21 2009, 01:13 AM

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Questions :

2GB vs. 4GB vs. 8GB - Does it make a difference?

on a machine that only do Gamming once in a while, no video editting, etc..
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post Nov 27 2009, 08:59 PM

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hmmmm. im kinda missed my 550 be
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post Dec 8 2009, 08:26 PM

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guess its my luck tongue.gif. bought 550be yesterday & here is the result :


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post Dec 13 2009, 03:20 PM

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here it is :

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post Dec 13 2009, 03:28 PM

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i guess so, smile.gif bought it on 7 December frm all it smile.gif..

so!!.... ladies & gentleman..... hurry while stock last tongue.gif,,,

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