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 Yamaha AVR Thread v2.00, Discussions about Yamaha AVR

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post Oct 8 2009, 10:49 PM

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I hope you guys don't mind me asking about Yamaha speakers.

Anyone using these 2 front speakers NS-50F? Is a display set (both speakers) approx RM900 worth buying? Can give some feedback of the sound quality ?

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post Jan 2 2014, 03:31 PM

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Setting speakers to large only means the bass from the speakers won't be crossed over to the subwoofer.

But the movie encoded .1 channel for bass will function as usual.
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post Jan 31 2014, 03:18 AM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Jan 30 2014, 05:37 PM)
Mr lim quoted me, 1550+120 shipping. I heard u guys getting around 1.3 to 1.4k,mind to share?
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I bought from Desa Kepong, RM1,400/-

If you don't need the extra network features and willing to accept a slightly lower power, then get the 375. I saw it advertised at RM999/- last month at Desa, but not sure still got stock.

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post Jan 31 2014, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Jan 31 2014, 07:51 AM)
but 475 also got others features, based on purity concept of yamaha, i think i will prefer 475 so no need upgrade later on. any email/phone contact of desa kepong? or all desa will price the same?
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I don't think they do shipping, mostly COD. But I might be wrong.

Some prices are already best price. But most prices can be negotiated further, but you have to be there face to face and practice your negotiating skills with their many salesmen. Also you need to do some acting. Never show you are too eager to purchase biggrin.gif
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post Feb 8 2014, 08:45 AM

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As a general test on the reliability of the calibration system (I am not talking about the sound accuracy yet, just the reliability), do the calibration 3 times in the same session, and compare the results. If they vary too much from one to the other, then you know it's not dependable.
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post Feb 17 2014, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(venven81 @ Feb 9 2014, 06:39 PM)
after checked out at Desa Home Theater yesterday, Yamaha RX-475 quoted at RM1,350. placed booking as stock was not available smile.gif
The sales guy recommended Whafedale MS-100, which is in the same range as Boston Acoustics Soundware XS5.1 (I think so). not much review to be found on Whafedale but some did say that it gives a rather "complete" experience as compared to Soundware. These 2 are priced exactly the same and I'm now seriously considering Whafedale. if anyone here has feedback on this, please share! cheers biggrin.gif
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If you can't get the stock for the 475, I have an almost new 475 that I want to sell. Bought at end of Dec 2013 (due to Salesman said only last few units remaining) but only opened last week (Feb 2014) to try.

Reason I want to sell is my HTiB Satellite speakers + Sub doesn't match too well wiith this Yamaha. It doesn't have 150Hz crossover that my HTiB recommends.

I am letting go at RM1K if you are interested.

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post Feb 18 2014, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Feb 17 2014, 07:18 PM)
No la,i think ngto selling rxv475 only laugh.gif
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You are right smile.gif .

Maybe I should word it in a better way.
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post Feb 18 2014, 12:02 AM

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Sorry Double Post

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post Mar 2 2014, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(leongwk15 @ Mar 1 2014, 12:08 PM)
If u are at Sunway Pyramid, pls look for Yus, Harvey Norman staff, very knowledgable about Yamaha. He attend my question at Sunway last week n tested/demonstrated V575. Very friendly guy. He told me V575 package is much worth it than V475, better feature. Price YHT475/SPK150B is RM2199 n YHT575/SPK160RW is RM3100 and the black color speaker is also available instead of Rosewood. Both package is only 5 speakers n no sub woofer. If u r not into 7.2 channel, maybe V475 is much cheaper. Only thing is that dunno whether they sell V475 with SPK160 instead of SPK150. SPK160 sound better n can handle higher watt. Maybe can check with them on this package availability.

Please update/share ur visit at Sunway Fair as I am out of town this weekend. Check any further discount or free goodies. Thks
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Any good deals on only speaker systems with subwoofer

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post Jan 28 2015, 11:58 AM

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I don't know why, but my Yamaha 475 DTS-MA movies doesn't sound that good. I have a feeling the lower models like 475, they just channel the DTS core instead of downmixing the extra channels (from 7.1) to 5.1 channels. The movies lack punch and sounds subdued, like some details are missing.

Dolby TrueHD sounds a lot better on the 475.
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post Feb 1 2015, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Jan 30 2015, 01:44 PM)
Most of the cheaper AVRs does not really put out power as said. Like you are only getting true 100W for the 2 front speakers while others are lesser.
Always check out the power consumption at the back.
This applies to most of the brands in the market.
Also, need to factor in surface area of the room, what we listen during demo in showroom won't be the same as we listen in our home. Like last time when I was using Pioneer's VSX-816, the sound are clearer in the kitchen than in the living hall. Change to Marantz now and clear in living hall.
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Actually it isn't about power, I was referring to.

For e.g one movie had both DTS-MA and plain Dolby Digital 5.1 (not even True-HD) . When I noticed the DTS-MA track lacking details and punch , I switched to the DD track, and was surprised everything sounded much much clearer, even the subwoofer was delivering better punch all round.

And it's like this with a lot of DTS-MA movies on this Yamaha 475. I really suspect only the core 5.1 is being used, with the extra 2 channels not being downmixed.

True-HD tracks on the other hand don't have this problem. Maybe these cheaper models don't really have the DTS-MA decoder built-in to cut costs, although they do show the source as DTS-HD on the AVR display screen.

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post Feb 1 2015, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(Matrix @ Feb 1 2015, 12:42 PM)
Bro, your source is original Blu-Ray or ripped movies? I can't really say for sure, as i don't have a lot of DTS-MA source...only have 1 DD TrueHD, which is very good compared to normal DTS. Most of my source DTS only...tongue.gif
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Original on Panasonic BD player, ISO on Media player. Both same DTS-MA problem on 475. True-HD and DD no problem.
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post Feb 1 2015, 09:36 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Feb 1 2015, 01:51 PM)
for those receiver that cannot bit stream dts master, better change the player output become multi channel linear pcm.

still a lossless codec instead of lossy one
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You don't understand. It can bitstream, but whether it's decoding the DTS-MA and downmixing the extra 2 channels is the question.

Even if you let the BD player decode to 7.1 LPCM, the extra 2 channels doesn't sound like it's downmixed in the Yamaha 475. More like the extra channels are just discarded.

That's just my personal observation on my system, although all the experts will say that it's not the case biggrin.gif
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post Feb 14 2015, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(Dickong @ Feb 14 2015, 10:03 PM)
Is it true that we have to set the avr to the lowest ohm when u have mix ohm spk. Example front spk.8ohm n surround 6ohm we have to set to 6ohm for output.
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I think that's correct. The AVR must be lower Ohm than your speakers.

Update :-

I checked the manual, even 4 Ohms speaker can still use the 6 Ohm setting, so not always must be lower. Depends on the speakers quality.

But always the chance of overheating if play too high vol on setting 8 Ohm on the AVR but use lower Ohm Speakers.

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QUOTE(ozak @ Mar 7 2015, 10:48 AM)
Sorry I can't find the upgrade firmware in the setup. Where is the setup?
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You need to press and hold the 'Straight' button on the receiver when powering up the receiver itself to activate the options. Read the manual.
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post Mar 7 2015, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Mar 7 2015, 02:55 PM)
Thanks. I have misplace the manual.  sweat.gif

Anyway, I DL the manual from net. Than seems like nothing happen after shift over to "update-network."

Than I read back here taizi@ccf wrote firmware update ver1.50 ??

But my av firmware is 1.64 ? That is nothing to update right?

What is yours?
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As far as I know the latest FW listed at Yamaha website for RX-V677 is ver 1.50, released 19 Feb 2015. Unless you got your model No. wrong or someone updated the wrong FW for your AVR, I don't know how you ended up with ver 1.64.

Or another possibility is when you pressed "update-network" (Assuming you are connected), it updated to a very new FW which has not been listed yet at their website.

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