I had read an article for imitation Pivot. Fake thing without "K" on top of 4 cylinder. Genuine product all with the "K" mark... unless that seller post original product photo but different actual product. This product can get at RM150 cos its on promotion, its one of a sales tactic I will check out soon, will update later. When saw the actual product only we can differentiate it. If can save RM100 more room for car to upgrade. Tactic of sales... I in sales & marketing line.. so I know the sales tactic.. In sales sometime earn RM1 also we gotta release Hope you guys can get my message I wanna pass on. :



For Waja, VS more important than k&n for my opinion, cos what i know, stock Waja had a bad grounding build up, so get VS 1st.



For my opinion, moded engine giving much headache cos I experience before... Better get a stock waja.

This post has been edited by swk_sam: Nov 24 2009, 09:51 PM

Ya, no mod to mounting needed, but sure need to mod something. If not done nicely, then u regret, all is about luck. 1.8 FC ... maintenance fee not sure

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Added on November 25, 2009, 9:51 amnayte, how your trunk hook lock screw? Change edi?

This post has been edited by swk_sam: Nov 25 2009, 10:42 AM

NOTICE OF FAKE RAIZIN
It has come to our knowledge that fake RAIZINs are widely distributed in the South East Asia regions especially in Singapore, and we are also concerned that these imitations are being distributed via online auctions. We will take legal action against wholesalers and retailers of these imitation goods.


Attention:1 The fake goods have poor quality that could lead to car malfunction.
2 The fake goods are not guaranteed at all. No claims and returns are accepted.
3 We may claim the shipping charges if imitation items are sent for checking and servicing.


Please purchase the PIVOT products from our authorized dealers to ensure that you get the genuine item.

In order to ensure that our customers do not get deceived, we wish to inform them of the several ways to distinguish the imitation RAIZIN (VS-1/VS-E) from the genuine items are per following pictures.

**************Genuine*************vs************* Imitation*************

1.Check the marking on the condensers.
The genuine PIVOT has a "K" marking, while the imitation has a "+" marking.


**************Genuine*************vs************* Imitation*************

2.Check the printing on the fuses.
The genuine PIVOT has a clear "15" print, while the imitation has no clear printing on the fuses.


**************Genuine*************vs************* Imitation*************

3.Check the production lot sticker on the bottom of the box.
The genuine PIVOT have the production lot sticker.


Here are some info..

This post has been edited by swk_sam: Nov 25 2009, 01:31 PM

No they wont, if just because few wording they also copy exactly, they will earn less. Y? Cos the component hard to imitate cos the marking is done when manufacture. The china man just oem all the parts. They won't manufacture them self cos very costly. So won't be 100% same as genuine. Just base on my experience. Imitation products mean for high profit margin cos no R&D needed.

On wording sometime hard to explain cos a lot to mention. If got time go out yamcha I will explain further more why I say that.

This post has been edited by swk_sam: Nov 25 2009, 01:27 PM

Yeah, rydeck explained what I meant... There will be some details they won't manage to copy cos is costly

This post has been edited by swk_sam: Nov 25 2009, 01:33 PM

Lolz.... come i check ur kaki..

Lolz... its normal for Waja. Mine all light dim when my compressor start..
Ya its include grounding wire, but let me verify the RM150 1st by checking the actual stock. If its genuine, then I get from him, if not then get from kent goh. kent goh no offence ya only try to save money If can get it from kent goh for RM200 then I no need check with that guy.... cos he is in Damansara Utama

This post has been edited by swk_sam: Nov 25 2009, 05:30 PM

Lolz..... la.... hahaha

Pump full tank & reset the odo meter. Check out how many KM per tank. When u pump the 2nd tank, divide the amount RM on 2nd tank with KM show on the meter.

Example:

RM85 divide by 500km = 0.17cent / KM

So your FC is 0.17 per km...
Need more power? Go install turbo

Can convert also....

RM1.8 per liter divide RM0.17 (your FC) = 10.58km/liter

or direct calculation

Simplify Method
RM1.8 per liter (price of petrol) divide RM85 (refill amount) x 500km (Amount your car ran) = 10.58km/liter

Actual Formula
RM85 (refill amount) divide RM1.8 per liter (price of petrol) = 47.22liter from RM85
500km (Amount your car ran) divide 47.22liter = 10.58km/liter

This post has been edited by swk_sam: Nov 26 2009, 12:22 PM

RM80 divide 450km = RM0.177/km

Price petrol is RM1.8/liter

RM1.8 divide 0.177 = 10.16km/liter

Lolz... we going for that pivot vs-e come with 5 grounding cable. If bulk purchase over 5 set only for RM250 from kentgoh.

Better don't dry out your tank always cos the pump will be very hot & shorten the pump life span, Waja got a common problem of fail fuel pump. The fuel in your tank have cooling effect for your pump. If wanna test fc, once for a while still ok.

Btw, just flush my gearbox when changing oil. Feel like gear shifting become smoother.

I think you must understand what flushing does to your gearbox. Don't judge without understand it. Flushing gearbox just to clear out the old atf completely & replace with new atf. It won't effect oil seal or whatever. We must understand that the gearbox will keep a lot old atf if just changing it. FYI A lot foremen recommend 40k km interval change for atf, Yes it is if changing atf using machine, only 20k km if without machine. Somemore don't simply use other atf to your gearbox cos it may cause your GB say bb. This is my own experience, e.g Wa.. toyota atf sure very good because got well known fame in the world. Then its wrong, proton GB & Toyota had different build up spec, so better stick back to proton original atf.
For your friend's case, its wear & tear symptom nth goes with flushing. Hope this will help you guys

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Added on November 29, 2009, 1:20 pmMy foremen recommend me to use 10w 40 semi-synthetic for 4G18. Car feel lighter. U know how the FC if your car become lighter Anyway my car FC RM94 can run 535km.

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Added on November 29, 2009, 1:26 pmalworks, is it your fuel tank always at empty? If yes, it maybe fuel pump failure symptom.

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Added on November 29, 2009, 1:33 pmIs it the silver & black Proton Logo? I got 1 seller selling at Rm25 each. Still thinking wanna change or not cos just like wasting money.

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Added on November 29, 2009, 1:36 pmYou can't clear atf completely if just draining it.... Flush = clear the atf completely... This is what I see my foremen did when he flushing my gearbox.

This post has been edited by swk_sam: Nov 29 2009, 01:51 PM

Lolz.. actually not my friend, it just a seller. Here is the seller number. 012-2426700. I still doubt to change the emblem.... like wasting money leh...

I think the last onwer using 20w50 as recommended cos he claim all servicing done at Proton SC. Maybe I feel it after 1 month using the car change from 20w50 to 10w40 semi-synthetic. What brand you using anyway? I using MAG brand imported from US. It not come in 4liter per bottle, its comes 1liter per bottle only.
Here is the seller number. 012-2426700

This post has been edited by swk_sam: Nov 29 2009, 10:26 PM

RM25 for one. Front & rear RM50

I also heard that this emblem available at Brothers at RM10+. I not sure, anyone can check it out there? For this seller I know, he claim it is original.
Here is the link. Proton Emblem

This post has been edited by swk_sam: Nov 30 2009, 09:12 AM

No comment till we check it out

Aiks.... hit & run without your notice?

So unlucky man, anyway try to ask your neighbor, maybe they admit if they done that & u can save money too.