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 ♥♪,Nokia 5800 XpressMusic a.k.a "TUBE" V19 ♥♪, V31 firmware through NSU!!!

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post Sep 17 2009, 10:32 AM

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Seriously, IMO, not worth buying AP for phone that is like RM1K. How much can you save from AP? RM100 to RM200 only...and endless headaches or hidden cost later.

We can update our firmware easily whenever we like with ori set. thumbup.gif


btw, in previos V18, i mentioned GPS improvement with firmware V31.

Obviously, i made a mistake. Still takes forever to lock with V31 without A-GPS enabled. Frankly speaking, without A-GPS, the normal GPS is DYSFUNCTIONAL. Wait until battery runs out also cannot get a lock!!! doh.gif


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post Sep 17 2009, 11:13 AM

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btw, i'm confused about this hard/soft lreset business. I've updated my phone and it seems to work fine. Do i need to hard reset/ soft reset???

I've downloaded the OVI Maps 3.0 for Singapore and Malaysia last night. Also downloaded a Cantonese female voice navigator...haha..damn funny when it speaks Cantonese. But don't dare to play long...coz kena charge 3G charges...sweat.gif

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post Sep 17 2009, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(Dannyl @ Sep 17 2009, 11:52 AM)
Roaming data usage.
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I wonder how much...1kb for RM10?? Click click click a few times and gone pokai liao...sweat.gif I think if we are using in forein country, better just buy a prepaid and use locally if for extended period.

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post Sep 17 2009, 02:51 PM

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One question, i think i've screwed up my phone by deleteing the e-mail setup app in the app folder. I delete it because for some strange reason, there's 2 of them. One called 'E-mail' and another 'E-mail Setup'. But for some reason, it deleted both.

So how do i backup my installed apps like IM+Skype(which i paid RM5) and restore it back after a soft/hard reset?? sweat.gif
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post Sep 17 2009, 09:07 PM

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QUOTE(shogun_125 @ Sep 17 2009, 08:59 PM)
FOTA vs NSU :-( :-) what is this actually..>?
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FOTA = Free Over The Air upgrade= upgrade directly from your mobile via WIFI or 3G(gonna cost u a bomb if u don't have unlimited data usage plans).

NSU=Nokia Software Updater=download and update from PC with ur mobile connected.

IMO, I find FOTA the best, but it's always slower getting latest update compared to NSU.

I was asking the same question 3 days ago...LOL.
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post Sep 17 2009, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Sep 17 2009, 09:08 PM)
nope... v30 fota reach first before nsu....
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FOTA is still v30 when NSU is V31. Probably still V30 now.. whistling.gif
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post Sep 17 2009, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(nullting @ Sep 17 2009, 09:12 PM)
a safe way huh??hehe thanx
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Yeah, that's what i usually do. But sometimes i scared if the WIFI disconnected, will it automatically connects to 3G?
Especially for apps like e-mail, skype, maps(Garmin and Nokia).

I'm especially concerned with Nokia maps...i think you need to go online mode than only can listen to voice navigation right? Scary ler...how much it charges?

btw, manage to setup e-mail to download my gmail account. hehe. syiok.


Added on September 17, 2009, 9:23 pm
QUOTE(lilster @ Sep 17 2009, 09:20 PM)
hi can i ask?

if my tube battery can last more than 1 and half day when i didnt always bother it. means its battery spoil. can i go to the shop and change the battery or i must go to NCC?
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Normal lar. If you play WIFI and GPS, one day can finish. Today i didn't do much WIFI and GPS, still full bar. Previously, can finish in half battery in a day or more, if play loads of WIFI and GPS.

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post Sep 18 2009, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(marky @ Sep 18 2009, 10:44 AM)
i think any racing game in 5800 sux lol
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5800XM does not have 3D accelerator. Basically it'll not perform very good with any 3D games.
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post Sep 18 2009, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(Aishiteru^Suki @ Sep 18 2009, 11:35 AM)
I personally prefer games that do not use 3D engine, for me 3D utilization is not meant for mobile phones just yet.. no matter what 3D accelerator they use the graphic still sux..  rolleyes.gif
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I won't say graphics on the iphone 3GS and PSP sucks at all. Pretty good by all means. Of course you don't compare to GTX 295 QUAD SLI or something. rolleyes.gif
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post Sep 19 2009, 12:08 PM

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Ok, i take back again what i said about V31 doesn't improve GPS locking.

Previously, i've updated the firmware, but didn't do any hard reset. Yesterday i did it and in the process, couldn't find my ealier back up on my PC and have to restore the contacts from my old phone....sweat.gif

Anyway, after hard resetting the phone, i've tried the GPS locking just now without A-GPS and it locks like in 15 seconds or so!!! It's amazing!!!

I suggest everyone to HARD RESET YOUR PHONE AFTER FIRMWARE UPDATE NOW!!! (of course, make like 10 copies of your phone backup and check the folders after the backup!!!).
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post Sep 19 2009, 03:28 PM

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Guys...i install opera mini 5...hang halfway...after 5 minutes still like this...normal??
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post Sep 20 2009, 12:29 AM

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QUOTE(khokk @ Sep 19 2009, 09:41 PM)
No no. That was my reply to Vandechrome who in post #411 was asking whether my advice to people using GPS not to upgrade firmware to V31 was because of battery consumption.
FYI Matrix in post#453 reported that he managed to lock in 15 sec after upgrading and hard reset. I have my doubt. There are many complaints in Nokia Support Discusssions too about Nokia 5800's GPS  locking problems after upgrading to V31. The discussions in that forum are more in depth and technical and comes from people all over the world. I am not criticizing anyone in this forum but I think some people tend to say things without giving much thought. However LYNet forums are more localized and discussions about hardwares and accessories are more applicable to us.

This may be of interest to GPS user :-
http://discussions.europe.nokia.com/discus...thread.id=12868
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Exactly. Who are you to criticize? Are you with me when i lock my phone? I'm just sharing my experience. And this morning, i have purposely disabled the AGPS before attemptin the location finder. And it did lock within 15 seconds or so.

Unfortunately, it didn't perform so well later at night. In the end, i have to go back to AGPS, which locks in a jiffy. I've just travelled from Setapak to Kepong Carrefour and back using the AGPS. And there was no satellite signal lost during the entire trip (except when i reached Carrefour and drove into the parking).

What i can think of is during the morning, the sky was not so cloudy. In the afternoon and night, it was raining, perhaps this contribute to the factors.

Seriously, some people tends to criticize everything and assume other people are not as smart as themselves and doubts everything because it doesn't tally with their conclusion. whistling.gif


Added on September 20, 2009, 12:33 am
QUOTE(vandechrome @ Sep 19 2009, 11:50 PM)
the obvious differences between V21 and V31 is my gps lock faster in V31..but i feel like i need to charge my tube twice a day after upgrading..normal usage with sms-ing, calling, and a lil bit wifi...


Added on September 19, 2009, 11:52 pmis it 7370 is restart? or there are another key for restart rather than switch off and switch on it back?
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My usage for today, morning SKYPEing and WIFIing, afternoon WIFI-ing a bit and night time GPS. Finally left one bar, recharging now. For me, not too bad. If can last one day ok-lar, just re-charge everyday. smile.gif


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post Sep 20 2009, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Sep 20 2009, 01:28 AM)
I recommend a game called COPS. Quite nice graphics and game play


Added on September 20, 2009, 1:30 am

For your info if u just disable a-gps and lock it could be from a pervious lock. To start a clean lock u need restart your phone and disable a-gps that is a cold start. If that really lock in 15 sec then its true.
There no such thing 5800 XM with cold start without a-gps can lock in 15 sec.
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Yeah, i suspect this could be a possible scenario, after more testing. Thanks for providing some USEFUL info(and Ataraxis too). Unlike some people who simply tok without adding any useful info for sharing. whistling.gif
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post Sep 21 2009, 08:23 AM

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hmm...i have a problem...why does the E-mail setup always auto start everytime i on the phone?? How to get rid of it? And there's always 2 e-mail setup incons in my phone! rclxub.gif
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post Sep 22 2009, 07:37 AM

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QUOTE(Jing-leBelle @ Sep 22 2009, 04:06 AM)
Anyone encounter problem that when i connected my phone to pc, it shown USB connected at phone but then PC Suite doesn't detect any device connect?
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Must be that 'MTS driver failed to install' problem. Anyone manage to fix this? It is very annoying. But for my case, at least PC Suite able to detects the phone.
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post Sep 22 2009, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(PrideNeverDie @ Sep 22 2009, 01:18 PM)
Hello to all 5800XM users, I am interested to know whether this 5800XM phone has touchflo 3D same like N97 will have it in next Firmware update. I am seriously considering to buy a 5800XM.

Anyone can advise me whether to buy this phone or better to wait for X6? Btw, when it will release? Thanks to all for answering my questions.
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Hello. 5800=RM 1K , X6 will probably be RM2.5k and above. If you got money, wait lor. tongue.gif


Added on September 22, 2009, 2:03 pmAnyone can give me some ideas about original batteries for 5800??

I went to Digital Mall today.

One 'NOKIA' shop offers RM200 for original with 6 month warranty!! Another shop offers RM80 for original with 3 months warranty and RM40 for non-ori.

The RM80 'original'...is it really original?? How can the price difference be so huge? Or is it tipu wan...rclxub.gif

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post Sep 22 2009, 05:27 PM

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Guys...got another problem. I can receive e-mail from my g-mail account, but can't send. It'll go straight to the outbox and stuck there forever. What's up?


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post Sep 22 2009, 10:09 PM

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I solved my e-mail OUTGOING e-mails problem partially by doing the following:

1) Key in the damn password in the settings! doh.gif
2) Set the outgoing e-mail connection to default, same as incoming. I think if set differently, there's some problem, (coz I have Easy Wifi, the name of my home wifi and the default connection).

E-mail can be send now, but attachment still doesn't work. I try to send a 400kb photo and it'll hang at the 'Send e-mail' progress bar....

Anyone managed to send e-mail attachment?
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post Sep 23 2009, 08:01 AM

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QUOTE(XiuKeong @ Sep 23 2009, 12:17 AM)
Went to a phone shop at Sg.Wang. The seller told me V21 is the best. Upgrading to newer version will cause the phone not to function properly.
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Never ever trust Sg Wang people. They tok cok, scam you cash and just plain too lazy to do anything extra for the customer.


Added on September 23, 2009, 8:02 am
QUOTE(vandechrome @ Sep 23 2009, 02:11 AM)
i have a Q..

does google maps need internet connection or just GPS?
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Google maps needs internet.

Best is still Garmin.

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post Sep 24 2009, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Sep 24 2009, 11:01 AM)
garmin can go for crazy for many reason. Could be due bad reception?
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I agreed. Especially when you try multitasking with Garmin running...almost guarantee to hang!

Anyway, i tried the GPS without the AGPS yesterday and today. Locking seems pretty good. About 3 minutes or less to get a locking. smile.gif


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