In Island la... my HP can online one ma....

dun end up touching each other like Milk..

R we still comparing about the LCD or something else..?

you tell me.. suddenly ot topic to seeing who can pancut further..

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This post has been edited by de_lasoul: Sep 18 2009, 10:15 AM

i heard now sony new ledtv no longer used RGB LED so to me samsung new LEDTV which is B8500 should surpass sony and ppl that visit Cedia Show 2009 has confirm that the new samsung LEDTV B8500 crush all his competitor...

squall12,

The reason why the sammy crushed the competition was due to the fact that it had local dimming while the Sony was only edge lit LED. While I believe that Samsung will crush competition it is wise to note that Sony has in the past always delivered well made LCD products. I believe they are not ready to display their highest end model that will use local dimming and improved algorithms. The belief is that Sony will not release local dimming this year and will announce a better model next year. I have seen the implementation of the older RGB LED and in my opinion it was superior to Samsung A950 model, but then it again it is double the price as well. If you are looking at performance per price ratio, I believe Sammy will deliver, but just looking at performance, I believe that Toshiba, Sharp (yes I said Sharp) and Sony will be definately close the gap next year.

am selling several brands depend on customer request for their project, mostly taiwanese/HK/china..
but as you mention, due to patent issues, some of them are using dies from cree/toyoda gosei etc.. internal details are defined by the manufacturer, so we just follow their P/N as per customer's request in the BOM list of the project.

anyway as for as high brightness LEDs are concern, one thing I learn is that the drive circuits with superior voltage regulation are equally as important as the LEDs them self.. due to the fragile state of these InGaN devices it's important to keep the junction temperature down and also avoid over driving them/over current, longevity depends on the drive circuits other than internal LED chip construction..



This post has been edited by ar188: Sep 18 2009, 10:27 AM

bro.. it's spelled as dies, not dice..

dice used for casino wans... cabutzzzz

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Added on September 18, 2009, 10:17 ambro anfieldude... i'm not defending Sammy 950 coz i'm using it

it's RM12k for 55" vs Sony's RM26k for 50" .... apples & oranges, but the fact that you even compared it to the RM26k tv already says much about the Sammy tv.. damn freaking good for it's price. Thanks Is the difference or advantage of Sony worth the additional RM14k n not to mention it's 5" smaller?? I guess it's up to the buyer to decide

This post has been edited by ronnt88: Sep 18 2009, 10:38 AM

ops.. die!

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Added on September 18, 2009, 10:25 amif it's 26k price here, as per your recommendation, you can always buy from USA..


This post has been edited by ar188: Sep 18 2009, 10:25 AM

Sony was the first LCD to use LED lighting... however, it was a failure because of their price strategy.. nobody would pay that price at that time..

Now Samsung has made it affordable (even though it is still expensive to us MYS) compared to Sony.

Samsung & LG made an agreement to promote their LED edge/backlighting TVs in a manner that Sammy will aggresively advertise it for the 1st 6mths, after that followed by LG for the following 2nd half. This will keep the momentum and frenzy of edge/backlit LED going...

Samsung continues to be very confidence in their LED edge/backlit display (including monitors & notebook displays) sales, that they have forecasted another approx 40% increment in their LED production output in 2010.

Meaning if buy PS50B650 today, tomorrow it will be obsolete because of these LED TVs...

ron,

As I mentioned earlier, if you are looking at price/performance ratio comparison, Samsung LCDs whack the competition out of the orbit! No question abt that at all. What I was referring to was the performance aspect. I have calibrated ur A950 and I stick to what I have said before, it is miles above any LCD in its price range, period. The one thing to note would be the blooming. The Sony LED backlight w/local dimming that cost 2X has a better implementation of the local dimming algorithm and I suspect more LEDs in the backlight as well as RGB LEDs. That is what is improving the performance and hence the price difference. To 99% of the people, the price is the primary concern. The 1% though almost always will go for the better implementation of the technology, that always involves more costs.

Samsung/LG has another edge compared to the the Japanese LCD makers, they have given a host of calibration controls to the user. Thats why we are seeing the Sonys, Sharps and Toshibas now providing 3D CMS, greyscale and gamma adjustments in the user menu, those of which was hidden in the service menu before.

I believe the korean LCD/plasma manufacturers are really waht is driving this display technology forward.

I have also recently seen the Samsung projector and it is pretty awesome as well!

To me, I really don't care who makes the product as long as it has superior performance and good reliability, I will back it.

haha... i don't think so... but likely in the end.. LCD will replace plasma completely..at least that is what everyone thinks.. or like to think so..

don't worry, I am still with B650 as it is cheaper and bigger...

anyways, if i were to spend RM26k, i'd go for 600M, better size

urs landed yet?

This post has been edited by ronnt88: Sep 18 2009, 10:46 AM

Yea, drive cicuits or some might like to call it controllers are equally important.. many ppl think when it comes to LED, they market the lifespan at approx 50K hrs and some up to 100K hrs.. so even the LED last that long, their drivers may not last that long.. so the whole package is very important.

Even if LEDs and the driver can last up to 50K hrs, your LCD might not too.. heheh

This post has been edited by de_lasoul: Sep 18 2009, 10:48 AM

landed also no use, the place to set it in is not ready...but yes it already landed and at the shop.

is it hooked up in the shop? can go demo d...

still at the shop? u can keep it at my place first, and i can help u with the run-in....

by the time u collect, wah lah... ready for calibration...

'wah lah' is the latest malaysian french fusion?

This post has been edited by ronnt88: Sep 18 2009, 10:55 AM