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post Sep 17 2009, 03:48 AM

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and we start the 2nd half exactly how we started the 1st.. rubbish...
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post Sep 17 2009, 03:51 AM

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oh.... what a pass by rosicky... bendtner was gonna pull the trigger...
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post Sep 17 2009, 04:29 AM

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i can't get any streaming!!! aarrrggghhh!!!
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post Sep 17 2009, 04:34 AM

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QUOTE(garagesell @ Sep 17 2009, 04:34 AM)
streaming sucks tonight
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tell me about.. it's absolutely horrible...
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post Sep 17 2009, 04:37 AM

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QUOTE(kimhoong @ Sep 17 2009, 04:35 AM)
Seriously guys, do you really think that Diaby is good in attacking compared to defending?
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with his current performance, i feel that diaby is only good enough to be a squad player, not a regular starter...
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post Sep 17 2009, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(toshio14 @ Sep 17 2009, 12:40 PM)
their 1st goal is an example of what pissed me the most about this Arsenal. 2 avoidable mistakes that cost us a goal

1. Vito should have called out to Alex Song to let him know that he had the ball covered. instead, we conceded unnecessary corner kick which led to their goal. disclaimer : since Alex Song cleared the ball for corner, i'm assuming Vito did not call for it as the defensive player should always listen to their GK instruction when defending an attack. unless your name is Abou Diaby that is..haha

2. what the hell did Dudu was thinking? trying to be fancy eh? how about trying that kind of things nearer to their penalty area, not ours

we always seems to make life hard to ourselves, and it's not something new either. but at the very least the team must tried to bring the number of avoidable mistakes to the minimum. on the other hand, was Gael really that bad?
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correct me if i'm wrong cause i was watching the match and sometimes the streaming was really crap.
for the clearance by which led to the corner early in the 1st half, I saw it as song's fault.
the keeper called for it, but song cleared it anyway. this was apparent when they showed the reply where manone seemed to be asking song "why didn't you leave it for me", to which alex song pointed to his ear and sort of motioned that he couldn't hear.

as for dudu, i was terribly disappointed with his flick. we were defending and we were in the final third of our own half. that pass was suicidal and the standard liege player duly punished us for it. i will not blame fabregas for this because in the first place, that stunt by dudu was stupid. fabregas tried to body check the player as much as he could, but there wasn't too much he could because he was behind the player and near to the penalty box. i'm sure he didn't want to give away a penalty when trying to dispossess the liege player (of course in retrospect he should've just committed a professional foul).

as for clichy, he was really bad last night. he seems to have hit that birmingham low last season where he just totally wasn't in it. he was just plain bad last night.

but despite everything, a win is still a win. like a good friend said, "i'd rather they win ugly than lose pretty". so yes, i'll take the 3 points thank you very much. =)

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post Sep 18 2009, 09:54 AM

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Cesc: Manu left me scarred

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Click on the source to view the picture of Ade's handiwork on our captain leg. punk.

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post Sep 23 2009, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(sigheart @ Sep 23 2009, 07:47 PM)
It was a good result and we are through. Job done. Well played.

But please do not get carried away like I have seen some people on here who generally just went by those clips of goals scored and some match reports. According to Gooner supporters who watched the game the performance from the kids weren't as magnificent as what people think. West Brom were arguably the better team in the first half and we could and maybe to an extent would have lost had they had 11 men for the full 90 mins. Even with 10 men they played and defended well and limited us to 0 attempts on goal till our first goal when Vela came on and they began to tire.

My point is don't get your expectations up too high yet at this point. Just let the kids do their thing and see how it goes from here.
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i just think that as long as we win, that's the most important. again, i am from the school of thought that believes "winning ugly is better than losing pretty". of course, we need to improve and i dream again of the day we play the kinda flowing football that not only mesmerised the viewer, but also tore apart the opposition. but at this point in time, winning will help get us there... =)
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post Sep 24 2009, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(sigheart @ Sep 24 2009, 09:47 AM)
But the point of my post here was many people are raving with heaps of praises and adulation by just basing on what they read from reports and what they see from 2 mins of highlights which I find kinda funny. All I'm trying to point out also is don't get your expectations up too high like judging from some of the comments here plus from some other forums its as though the Carling Cup is more or less in the bag already and the kids are already good enough for the first team, which is absurd at this point to say the least.
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yeah, i'd agree on that with you.... we've got a good crop of youngsters who have great potential, but let's not get carried away.
but i feel this mirrors the judgement of our first 11... one good game from arsenal and suddenly we're title contenders. one defeat and we're doomed...

that's just my 2 sen.. =)
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post Sep 25 2009, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(giotto @ Sep 25 2009, 10:58 AM)
To win ugly is definitely not Arsenal. We play because we love to entertain the crowd, and thats the soul of Arsenal. I think Wenger has mention it before, he will never ever give up the way he moulds his team to play...the beautiful game.

I dont think its right to say to win titles, you must win ugly. Man Utd won 3 titles in a row and you cant say they played anti football. They were brilliant at grinding out result while still playing good football.

Simple reason why the fans in Arsenal still stood by their team altho we won nuts for the past 4 years, coz when we play, we entertain. I can only remember maybe once or twice we were jeered by our own fans for as long as i've supported Arsenal but try losing 2 games in a row and play like crap in an Inter Milan or Real Madrid jersey, the fans will let you know how they feel exactly.
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i agree that arsenal in the wenger era has always been to play attractive football that entertain the crowd. however, i believe that it is to our own detriment if we say that we will not win ugly at the cost of losing pretty. even walcott has come out to say that we must learn how to win even when our football isn't so beautiful. the criticism of wengerball has always been that there is no plan B if the beautiful football doesn't work, which i believe is true.

first and foremost, arsenal will always be a team that plays wonderful, breath taking, eye catching football. however, if that doesn't work, then we'll have to learn how to win even if we can't play wengerball or if the other team is parking a bus in front of the goal.

as for man united, i believe they won because they've managed to grind out results even when they weren't playing well. the games where they were out of sync, the moves were disjointed, individual mistakes... and yet, there was always someone who would score that all important goal. i think we need that kind of mentality. i believe that we've seen in happen against standard liege, but we need to see it consistently in the EPL as well.

just to make sure that i'm not giving out the wrong vibe here, i'm not against beautiful football. i'm just saying that we stand to lose out if we refuse to believe that we will have to win ugly on our off days if we want to be serious contenders for any trophy.

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post Sep 29 2009, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(Thumpy Ick @ Sep 29 2009, 08:14 AM)
lol yea. i see more diaby in our next games. with denilson out, he pretty much cemented his presence in the first team. i think arsene plays 2 defensive players in the central midfield. while diaby might not be a makelele, his physical presence is probably what's been keeping him in the team. i prefer playing rosicky in the centre but i dont think it's what arsene wants. ross and shav seems to share the flanks.

ideally, i'd like to see song/ross/cesc and eduardo/vp/shav. but i cant help but think that arsene would like to have 3 proper CM in the middle.
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please correct me if i'm wrong, but as far as i can remember, diaby will never be a capable defensive player.... even wenger has said that diaby sees himself more as an attacking central midfielder, which is why he always comes inside despite starting on the left and why he's quite lazy at tracking back. =)


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QUOTE(Aeroberg @ Sep 29 2009, 11:15 AM)
No he wasn't. That year was Bobby Pires' inspirational year. In goal was still David Seaman. That was also the year of the red haired Ljungberg.
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before the swede starting losing all his hair that he couldn't possiblly dye it red anymore... =)
i loved his interviews... always humble... i still remember once (many years ago) they interviewed him for a football freestyle event and they asked him about what he thought about their skill level.. he just chuckled and said that they were all probably better than him... down to earth, likeable fellow...

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post Oct 2 2009, 10:10 AM

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darn.. i was gonna post the story about the henry - wenger link up but i've been beaten to it... heheh...
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post Oct 2 2009, 12:23 PM

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here's a good article from arseblog

Lucky 13?

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post Oct 4 2009, 03:08 AM

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QUOTE(Angel of Deth @ Oct 3 2009, 10:52 PM)
Diaby is like Ray Parlour. Cant dribble, cant score, cant cross, cant pass but very diligent on the pitch.
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diaby is like ray parlour? right now, diaby ain't even fit to polish ray parlour's shoes.

anyways, here's a video of the arsenal legend... just for nostalgia... =)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wdTCcVM9dQ

he dribbles and scores in this video too.. =)

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post Oct 7 2009, 09:41 AM

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i think sol's involvement with arsenal will be solely for training, just like what beckham did with us. up till now, wenger has never taken back a player that he has sold.

as for vermaelen, i don't really understand why people want him to play midfield or striker. we already have enough personnel in those areas. even though he's scoring regularly, he's also been very solid at the back with gallas. that i think is more important. we need his defensively stability more than we need his scoring prowess...
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post Oct 10 2009, 10:18 AM

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Mannone hoping he's proved worth to Wenger

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What do you guys think? Don Vito has played 5 games. Has he shown that he should be given an extended run? Should almunia be given back the gloves when he returns, or does he fight his way back?

I personally think that Mannone should be given the chance to prove that he can be consistent and that almunia will have to fight to be numero uno. this is the kind of competition that has been lacking and that i believe has made almunia somewhat complacent. in the same way, by making almunia fight for his place, mannone will also have to bring his A game to the fore everytime because he knows he's got someone breathing down his back....

i know that some people will tell me not to forget fabianski, but at this point in time, i believe that the competition for the no.1 spot is between the two of them, especially since fabianski is still injured.


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post Oct 11 2009, 12:29 AM

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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Oct 10 2009, 03:59 PM)
If it ain't spoilt, don't fix it. Manny Al will have to fight his way back, and now the Don's keeping his place.
It took Jens more than 10 games to reclaim his position from Manny last time, and honestly if this short-stint by the sidelines makes Manny a better player, we'll reap the biggest reward.
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if mannone can keep up this level of performance, it's gonna take way more than 10 games for almunia to regain his position. an iker casillas in the making? goalkeeping competition and options can only be good for us... =)

and yes, please, no slyvestre.... i'd rather sanderos anytime... anytime! =)
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post Oct 11 2009, 01:56 AM

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QUOTE(Quick` @ Oct 11 2009, 01:14 AM)
i wish he can score 2 goals in 3minutes for us at Arsenal  tongue.gif
that would be sexy
Arsenal top 2 goal scorers of the season
Vermaelen and Senderos
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that's gonna be difficult cause he's not first choice at the moment... =)
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QUOTE(ashburn98 @ Oct 11 2009, 09:21 PM)
his grandad is sick. according to his sister's twitter.
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wow... you follow cesc fabregas' sister's twitter???? amazing...
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QUOTE(sigheart @ Oct 13 2009, 04:15 PM)
I don't know if its just me or what but I find Liverpool games always get picked over any other team when timings clash which is unfair. IIRC till now they have not even missed a LIVE match. They should rotate telecasts if the timings clash. This will be the 2nd time now we didn't get a LIVE telecast. I just might write to Astro and The Star soon if this continues  vmad.gif
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well, what to do? astro is more concerned with making money and more viewers = more money. and the club that has a sizeable following aside from united in malaysia is liverpool....



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