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prophetjul
post Jan 25 2011, 09:38 AM

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Born XXXXXXXXXX
August 30, 1930
Omaha, Nebraska, U.S.
Nationality American
Alma mater University of Pennsylvania
University of Nebraska–Lincoln
Columbia University
Occupation Chairman & CEO of Berkshire Hathaway, Investor
Salary US$100,000
Net worth US$45 billion



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prophetjul
post Jan 26 2011, 10:42 AM

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Here goes mine, pls comment:

Age: 48
Salary: 350k p year

Properties: 2.5m (no loan)
Cash: 500k
Rental income : Approx 45k p year
Preciousmetals/commodities: 2m
Stock mkt: 1m
EPF: 1m
Insurance- Accident-2.2m.....Life......1.5m.....hospitalisation

2 kids- 16yrs & 12yrs

i need to provide 1 m each for their education.

Hows my portfolio?
Can i retire by 56 yrs old?

TIA


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post Jan 26 2011, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(mois @ Jan 26 2011, 01:42 PM)
Uncle, u are planning to send your kids oversea to further their educations? If local, i think not need 1m, probably need like 300-500k for medical course.  thumbup.gif
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Yes sonny. Uncle plans to send them overseas as Uncle do not trust the acrreditation of local Unis.. hmm.gif
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post Jan 28 2011, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(groggy @ Jan 27 2011, 02:48 PM)
I don't know what is the commodities 2m. Ignoring that, you have 5m. Even if deduct 2m for education, you have 3m. 8 years left to 56 yr old. If save 200k per year, will get another 2m. Minimum 5m by 56 yr old. Even if earn 5% on it also got 250k. Yes, you can retire by 56 yo. But I am sure you already know that. tongue.gif
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Why do you ignore 2m? Thats 2 mil.... hmm.gif

How can i save 200k per yeaR?

i can however, hopefully earn some returns from my investments like say 15%....on the 3m in commod/preciousmetals and equities so maybe 450k per year here...

Also by the time, i am 56, the 250k at todays value may only be worth 176k...... Inflation...... sad.gif

Anyway....some ppl may differ, by $$$ is not everything...... i hope to retire by 58 max to spend time doing
other things apart from working for income.. smile.gif
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post Jan 28 2011, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(edyek @ Jan 28 2011, 10:19 AM)
Who told you earning RM 700k per year is consider ok?  sweat.gif
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The chap must be earning at least 2m per year to say such..... nod.gif
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post Feb 2 2011, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(nik2 @ Feb 2 2011, 08:02 AM)
Age: 22
Occupation: 3rd yr Software Engineering student/ Part Time Online Business
Marital Status: Single
Asset(s):N/A

Study loan: N/A, scholarship.

Insurance: Medical Card
Investment:
ASB: 30K
AHB: 55K
Gold: a few gold bar,dinar and dirham coins

MT4 acc: USD 2 were left.

Cash in Bank - RM2K

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any suggestion how to gain the assets etc.
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WOW! Nik!
At 22 yrs young, you already have such high net worth! Thats great going! thumbup.gif
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post Feb 8 2011, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Feb 8 2011, 09:24 AM)
Saving 25% of your salary is not good at all. Everybody should target to save at least 40% with the current rising rates of inflation. Your 25% savings today might only be worth 10% in 10 years. So maintaining at least a 40% savings target now will provide the neccessary buffer against inflation.

For your info, im saving approx 55% of my salary every month and that is after taking into account the housing loans, insurance, bills and living expenses.
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many are finding it hard to manage their expenditure

55% is unreal.....but if you can manage, rclxms.gif btw does 55% include epf?

saving to buffer inflation may not be the best way forward....investing wisely maybe......


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post Feb 10 2011, 08:43 AM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Feb 10 2011, 08:36 AM)
Im refering to ppl who are earning a decent income. Anybody earning about RM1000 a month will find it difficult to make ends meet let alone save. But when i was earning RM1500 bout 11 yrs ago i did  manage to save about 25% of my salary. So i dont think putting aside 30-40% of your salary if u are in the income bracket >RM3000 will be a problem. If u cant do that that means your expenses/debts are too high.
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Presumably you do not have children?
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post Feb 10 2011, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Feb 10 2011, 08:48 AM)
Having kids should not be made an excuse not to save enough. There are always ways n means to cut down expenses and increase passive income. Having said that, also have children according to your means. No point having 6 kids and then complaining not enuf money to give them a proper life. If your finances arent stable enuf, then hold off the kids or limit the number. I dont see why ppl would bring kids into the world and have them live a life of poverty.

The rule of thumb is always 'Live Within Your Means'
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Hold on.....you are preaching...... no one saying dont save.......but having children and saving 30 to 40% on a salaried income?
Are you also preaching moonlighting? hmm.gif
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post Feb 10 2011, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Feb 10 2011, 10:53 AM)
I am doing exactly that. I dont preach what i cant practice myself. Do you do a balance / debt check twice a week? I do. If u dont then dont dream bout saving even 30% of your income. Check your expenses and find ways to trim and you will be able to target at least 30% savings if not 40%.
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Why dont you show us all how you budget on a 3k income and save 40%?

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post Feb 11 2011, 07:53 AM

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Feb 10 2011, 08:57 PM)
Alright... Rm3000 income.

40% of that is Rm1200, so you have Rm1800 to spend.

Say you work 5 days a week (20 days a month.)

Rent is 300.
Food is 300.
Transport is hmm.. say you want to be luxurious and take a cab to and from work every day, maybe Rm30 a day? that's Rm600.

300+300+600 = Rm1200. Still have Rm600 a month to spend, don't know where to spend it.

Say you really like to leave all the fans and lights on, so maybe Rm400 power bill.

Still got Rm200 don't know where to spend.

Why cannot?
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What about

Tax, EPF, Utilities, entertainment, children expenses, insurance, clothing, ?
Can you REally survive on 300 on food? Eat bread ksosong everyday? tongue.gif
O BTW what you the 10 days? Stay in the rented room? cry.gif
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post Feb 11 2011, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Feb 11 2011, 09:59 AM)
Back to my earlier comment. Should you be starting a family with a RM 3,000 salary? That should be the question here not the others. If you know that ure gonna find it difficult to maintain a family with that salary then shouldnt you be working to get that income bracket up before that?

In saying that, i also know of ppl who are earning such a salary and still are able to save & have a family. They spend on whats neccessary and cut down on other wasteful spending.
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Maybe by the time you get to a salary to be able to start, you are too olde..... biggrin.gif

Still waiting to see your typical budget with family of two children based on 3k....
How to cut down on wasteful spending nod.gif

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post Feb 11 2011, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Feb 11 2011, 01:31 PM)
Exactly! Thats the point im trying to make.
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i gotta it!

a) we share our room with of 12 x 12ft with another family (150)

b) Eat roti kosong (100)

c) take bus to work (60)

d) do nothing for the rest of rest days (0)

e) use clothing for at least 5 years ( 10)

f) No handphone, No entertainment, no GF, no nuthin

Total expenditure : 170

Oh YEAHHHHH!!!!!! we save 2500 - 170 = 2330!!!!! rclxms.gif icon_rolleyes.gif


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post Feb 11 2011, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Feb 11 2011, 05:16 PM)
So don't start?
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post Feb 11 2011, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Feb 11 2011, 05:26 PM)
It's a sad mind that can't think of anything to do that doesn't involve money smile.gif and who says you got to eat out?
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Hey, i said eat roti kosong, didnt say eat out.......

Doesnt involve $$$$$ uhmmmm stare at ceiling is free, i suppose.....
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post Feb 11 2011, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Feb 11 2011, 05:32 PM)
Wow, you really can't think of anything to do that doesn't involve money? tongue.gif and bread is Rm1 a loaf, you consume 100 loaves of bread a month? tongue.gif
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According to you and washisname, cheep mah.....wanna save >40% even.....eat roti kosong!

BTW how much before you can get married and have children? rclxub.gif

3kpm, 4k, 5k ?????
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post Jun 6 2011, 09:23 AM

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WOW! Now i know why the houses prices are up so high!

So much speculation.....hopefully you guys can stand a tremor when it comes........

4.5k salary owning 3 houses? Good luck matey
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post Sep 5 2011, 07:30 AM

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i am 49 years young.

Using Wong's spreadsheet

Assets

a) Fixed Income = 1.6 mil
b) Stocks, Equities = 1.2 mil
c) Investment Properties = 0.9mil
d) Alternate = 1.35 mil

Liability

a) property = 0.15 mil

Income = 25k per month

Insurance = 1.2mil life cover

i plan to send my two children 12 and 16 years for overseas studies. - set aside Rm1mil each present value.
Plan to retire 58 years old with annual expenditure of Rm120k present value.

Is this achievable?

This post has been edited by prophetjul: Sep 5 2011, 07:32 AM
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post Sep 5 2011, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(mois @ Sep 5 2011, 08:42 AM)
Just curious, is your children excel academically?if they arent good, lo. cal is better n cheaper too. Otherwise basically you are sending your children to disneyland. 120k expense per year is 10k per month. With your current asset, it is possible. more than that.
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Thanks for your reply.

For education, thats the plan. i dont like local education. But thats another discussion.
120k is present value..........discounting future inflation
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post Sep 5 2011, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Sep 5 2011, 09:55 AM)
Bottomline: YES achievable for both RM1M for children's education
AND your retirement
AND added bonus of having something to give back to society & your children's future generation
EVEN WITHOUT additional savings & additional investments (other than re-investing)
Caveat: Assuming (yes, THAT word again tongue.gif) that the %pa of expected growth/returns & average inflation %pa i used is close enough.

Details and for your own "cooking" of numbers, growth/returns %pa & inflation  %pa, see attached
Normal disclaimers apply: Use at your own risk  brows.gif
Whats your assumption of %pa of expected growth/returns & average inflation %pa?
i am ususally assuming

growth before retirement at 12% pa
After retirement at 8% pa

Inflatiob at 4% pa (maybe too optimistic)

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