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post Aug 12 2023, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(gamenoob @ Aug 12 2023, 01:50 PM)
Well said, Bro.

10k monthly living expenses at retirement for an old couple assuming, no more mortgage, car loan or any loans, is more than doable.

More than doable and still able to enjoy many day to day lifestyles.

Differences is you have caviar on uni for your crackers or a regular cream cracker on black coffee for your afternoon snack.

That by no means lacking.

Then again, maybe that’s why I’m not driving a Ferrari wearing fancy watches living in super villa… 😅
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On a serious note, a simple life is a happy life smile.gif



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post Aug 29 2023, 12:58 PM

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we always talk about T1

we got the number now

https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/202...es-rm161m/71679

In Malaysia, you just need RM2.2m in wealth to join top ‘one-percenter’ club unlike Singapore’s RM16.1m

KUALA LUMPUR, May 30 — How much do you need to be in the top 1 per cent of your country’s population in terms of wealth?

Just US$485,000 (or over RM2.2 million using today’s currency rates) in net wealth in Malaysia is all it takes for you to be categorised as the richest one per cent here, or to be richer than 99 per cent of the Malaysian population, according to property consultancy Knight Frank’s latest report.

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post Aug 29 2023, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Aug 29 2023, 01:35 PM)
I wonder.... if one has RM 16.1 million (ie qualify to be T01 in SG), would it be better to retire in Klang Valley/Malaysia or retire in SG.

I vote KV  smile.gif
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KV ftw

I won't want to retire in Singapore


QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Aug 29 2023, 01:39 PM)
so low to be T1? maybe life is cheap (ie. throwaway discounted life) in MY?  sweat.gif
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Not everyone can achieve that, so I mean FIRE thread many wishing for 5 mil to retire, it's as if 99.5% of Malaysians won't be able to survive after retirement.

Life goes on.
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post Sep 29 2023, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(AnAngel65 @ Sep 29 2023, 03:18 PM)
3 years has past and I would like to review on my personal financial progress.

My last post was in August 2020, in another topic
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and NOW, I'll follow this topic format:

Age: 29
Occupation: Planning & Development Executive
Nett Pay: 4700
Marital Status: Just Married this year

Savings/Assets:
1. FD 25k
2. Rakuten 52k
3. PRS 10k (Topping up 2k yearly for income tax relief)
4. ASM 46k
5. SSPN 8k
6. KDI 10k
7. IBKR - VOO&BND 19k
8. Palm oil Planters' Scheme - 40k
9. OCBC 360 savings - 8k
10. EPF - 115k
Total Assets: 333k

*Had just successfully bid for a lelong unit in Johor with Market Value of 250k, planning for flipping or for rental investment.
Had relocated from Johor to Penang on year 2021, and due to the smaller market for property in Penang my salary dropped by 20%, hence the same nett salary even after 3 years. Been struggling with job finding for around 1-2 years with unstable income (and emotions), just landed on my current job and trying to be settle with what I have right now.

From the past 3 years, I have researched and tried out:
1. Roboadvisor : Wahed, StashAway, KDI
    To which I DCA about monthly, however it fluctuates too much and most of the time the return is below my expectation and eventually by this year when it rises I decided to sold all and withdraw. Only park some of my emergency fund in KDI for its fixed return.

2. SSPN
    Just a diversity of my investment from ASM, however after 3 years of monitoring the interests is lower than anticipated (and I'm not eligible for tax relief since I do not have kids) so I've decided to withdraw all as well and park elsewhere.

3. IBKR : Etfs
    Fund from my roboadvisor are parked at ETFs, planned to DCA as well. I could save on management fee, and for the part 1 year my funds are performing OK.

4. Palm oil Planter's Scheme
    This has been introduced by my family side and with a yearly return of 9% I invested one plot, however recently it has not been doing good and although there are some "Rehabilitation" plan proposed I personally do not have high hope on it. I classify this 40k to be lost towards bad investment.

5. Property
    I have been eyeing for lelong unit for a few years now, joined a few auction myself but only succeed in buying just very recently. Currently studying for Penang and Johor property however due to the Sg currency and rental demand, Johor property have more opportunities for investment. As for Penang, am eyeing for affordable units for our own stay.
Due to the property industry downtrend, and smaller market as compared to KL and JB, I am actually trying to settles for a less hectic job and ty to shift towards IT/Financial field (yes a totally diff field). The decrease in my income and savings has slightly affected my investment plan, but currently the main goal is to settle down and focus on my career path.

Since I just started for property investment, I am considering to get a few more property for rent or airbnb. However, that means I would have higher commitment and most of my money are tied upon the property in which I might not be able to have fast financing in times of emergency that requires a big chunk of money. So I am considering whether stock/ETF investments are actually better than property investment?
Or if there are other advice to me, I am more than willing to learn.

Thanks all for your time!
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Very good saving rate. Keep it up

I would refrain from investing in what land what farming what plantation opportunity.. Many people lose money from it. Future number is easy to print out. Hard to execute.
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post Sep 30 2023, 06:04 AM

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QUOTE(azmanadnan @ Sep 29 2023, 11:20 PM)
Just joining the fun

Age: couple of years to 40
Occupation: Healthcare professional
Marital Status: single but attached
Asset(s):

Properties:
5 fully paid landed properties in klang valley

Cars - one Mercedes and a BMW
Market Value: should be around 500k in total
Liability (ies):
none as I recall

Insurance:
None , never bought any insurance except for my cars

Cash/ other investments :

7 figure ASNB
3 seperate premier banking status for FDs

Rather conservative as I don’t usually take loans, and not a believer of insurance/ any investment schemes and such
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you look sorted for life. well done! what is the secret to such achievement? i call it achievement cause it doesn't appear overnight.

any pama help since young? or everything built from scratch? some good mentors in life too, i assume?


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post Sep 30 2023, 06:35 AM

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QUOTE(azmanadnan @ Sep 30 2023, 06:29 AM)
I’ll be really honest
Yes PAMA helped a lot no doubt
Despite my username I’m a non bumi .
Got I’ll say decent result in SPM 12  straight As but did not get the course of my choice through government scholarship , PAMA scholarship instead. Was sad for a while as there were only 11 subjects to take last time and I got 12 As what else could I have done better
But it worked out eventually
After graduation it was basically just work study work study , 15 years gone by just like that . From a lowly worker became ok I’ll say decent job to have 3 meals . Went through many exams and such , some with passing rates as low as 7%.
Could I have done it without my PAMA? No

Am I Sucessful? Yet to see , I do not have my own family yet

Financially? I don’t know . There is always another step for you to take
I’ll say enough for me for my current frugal lifestyle but if you compare with others , it is always lacking
If I compare with my sibling who is in Australia , buying couple of properties yearly , I think they fare better

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don't compare with others especially those in another country. you have definitely done well in your studies (12 straight As!) to build a solid foundation for your life. 7% success rate, is dead difficult.

who says education isn't important - i always champion the importance of education.

living a frugal life is the way to go.

well done, brother. may your example be a role model for the rest to follow. thumbsup.gif


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post Dec 10 2023, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(ken8888 @ Dec 9 2023, 10:27 PM)
Would like to review my portfolio's performance after two years time.
I am planning to purchase another property in next 1-2 years time with price around RM 650k. Is my current saving and spending rate healthy? any advice to further increase my wealth? Thanks

Age: 29
Occupation: Banker
Marital status: single

Asset:
Cash in multiple currencies = 24k
Stocks = 13.5k
Unit trust = 40k
PRS = 15.7k
EPF = 171k
ASNB = 142.5k

Liabilities:
Property loan = 338k (payment in advance 70k)
Car loan = 52k

Income = 7k monthly gross salary + commission average 2k monthly + rental income 1.5k monthly
Commitment monthly = 5500 total
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A very solid incremental net worth build up.

the EPF portfolio is amazing for a 29 year old. ASNB too. both = 300k, amazing.

Thanks for sharing thumbsup.gif

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post Dec 10 2023, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Dec 7 2023, 09:41 PM)
Whoa bro you need RM40k to pay bills monthly,
and you have so little in cash compared to your RM1.6million income

And that income is not salary but commissions,
if me i would be very worried with so much  bills to pay relying on commissions
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QUOTE(ronnie @ Dec 8 2023, 07:40 AM)
Question to you :-
1. Does your PRS returns win over EPF over the years ?
2. Why do you think the BRZ is an asset ?
3. Are Property A & B covered by their rental income ?
4. When RM millions commission dry up, what's your backup plan ?

Clearly "earn more spend more" mantra is not very safe strategy.
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Living a very high life, lifestyle is being funded by commission. Once that water tap shuts, really 404.

If annual income around 1 mil, 6 years of work only getting less than 1 mil net worth. I am not sure where most money is spent.




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post Dec 12 2023, 05:37 AM

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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Dec 11 2023, 10:21 PM)
Nearly end of 2023, let me add to this topic for posterity.

Age: 50
Occupation: Work at a Bank
Martial status: Single n available 😎 (Divorced with 1 kid)

Financial.Assets (MYR value)
Emergency Fund (ASB n Flexi) = 220k
DIY portfolio (stocks, bonds, etf, funds) = 1.3M
KWSP = 2.4M
PRS = 60k

Real Estate (est market value)
House 1 = 950k (own stay)
House 2 = 800k (parent stay, no rent)
Land = 300k

Liabilities
Housing loans = 380k
No other loans
Son already at uni n his funding separately provided for
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Bravo. From his inspiring numbers, can you share with us, how did you reach to this level? I mean you are a good son, and you look after your own retirement well, together with a child.

Would you say the industry you are in allow you to get this portfolio? Or was it the right investment that led you to today's number?

Are you going to retire soon or are you in a very good position in the company that you are happy to stay there?

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post Dec 14 2023, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(cooldog_777 @ Dec 14 2023, 04:07 PM)

Cash in hand now
RM700.00


am i doing ok?
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rich tycoon often have little money in wallet.

impressive.
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post Dec 18 2023, 03:48 AM

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Did one of the posts about a 25/26 yo guy having some 6.5 mil btc/crypto and some million dollar house. And call brand owner get deleted?

I'm beginning to think some posts here are fictional. And I enjoy reading only non fictional posts. Appreciate the 99% who post real stories.

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post Dec 20 2023, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(tbgreen @ Dec 20 2023, 10:15 AM)
Age: 45 in 2 weeks
Occupation: Bridge Engineer
Marital Status: Married with 2 kids
Salary: 27k
Asset(s):
House 3 (300k) - Airb&b (fully paid) (income +/- 1k/mth)
House 4 (410k) - Rent (fully paid) (rental 1.4k/mth)
Car1 - Yr2012 Jap Sedan (fully paid)
Car2 - 4x4, Company Car + Fuel, Not Count
EPF: 995k
Bursa: 470k (Bank x2, Reit x1)
ASM2: 24k
PRS: 700 (tujuh ratus ringgit sahaja, for test water)
Liability (ies):
House 1 (950k) - Own Stay (outstanding loan 335k, pay 2.8k/mth)
House 2 (300k) - Airbnb (outstanding loan 246k, pay 1.6k/mth)(income +/- 1k /mth)

Note 1: Pay 5k/mth household maintenance/meal/utilities etc
Note 2: Enrolling 2 Kids into International School next year, and uni year in 5 years time, so yeah, some additional serious expenses to be considered down the road.
Insurance:
Life: Pay 1.6k PA
Medical: Pay 2.6k PA
Medical: Company Welfare, Not Count
Cash
Cash: 900 (Sembilan ratus ringgit sahaja)
KDI Save: 132k (topup stock whenever market is crying)
Versa Cash:92k (topup stock whenever market is crying)
Rize: 5.05k
(Always maintain minimum 100k in combined of KDI & Versa for emergency, future expense etc)
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a very nice portfolio, nice buffer on the KDI and Versa funds thumbsup.gif

does your wife work as well? and do the both of you maintain separate accounts?


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post Dec 21 2023, 05:11 AM

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QUOTE(Nutbeater69 @ Dec 20 2023, 01:19 PM)
It's a real story. but I'll leave it up in the air for anyone who doubted it.
Im the dude. Wouldn't it be better for me to park the 2M funds inside the Flexi account instead of paying the loan up? I can always use the 2M funds for any emergency if I need to.  hmm.gif
Not quite sure why nobody believe my story. Been a business owner ever since I was 22. I'll gladly take it as a compliment  sweat.gif
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Maybe the better word for it is surreal.

Maybe tell us how you reach to that amount. Did you attend uni? How did you start your business? Capital from where? What would you tell young people today to be in your foot step? So people can learn from you.

Most people here I know take long time to build their networth and that's natural. You see how they slowly climb. and appreciate their tenacity.

Is wombat account any link to you? 🙂 IYKYK




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post Apr 22 2024, 06:45 PM

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i see two arguments here.

for me, i invest in financial products, fast in fast out. want cash, can get rightaway.

to each their own, some burnt in stock market, happy to be in properties, be it.
some excel well in stock market, happy to continue such way, be it.
im happy to be in crypto market, when everyone despise it, be it.

end of the day, you need to be very comfortable in your OWN GAME. you just need to look after yourself. and when you make it, treat people around you well, take them out for makan, help them within your ability, never be snobbish.
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QUOTE(polarzbearz @ Apr 25 2024, 12:58 AM)
This thread suddenly derailed into stocks vs. properties laugh.gif (tho still an interesting read)
Let me try to bring it back on track and also leave a footprint here while at it since I haven't posted this in forums before (usually just updates on my blog) nod.gif

Came from a hardcore B40 family and frankly speaking, I got friggin' lucky and never would've thought that these were possible if you asked me about this 10-15 years ago. I only have my mom to thank - her insistence to send me to uni despite our financials (and I wasn't even grateful or helping her out back then) and she can now harvest her fruits (me) laugh.gif

Age: 32, Female
Occupation: IT kuli
Marital Status: Single with One Dependent (Parent) / No Kids

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~RM891K Net Worth, valued as of March 2024 rounded up to the nearest thousands. Could be more frugal, but happy with the current balance in life vs. savings

Asset(s):
Condo @ RM0 - I value it at RM0 since it's generating expenses rather than cash flow. It's a concept I took from Rich Dad Poor Dad tongue.gif. Controversial, yes, but I'm more comfortable this way. (Market Value probably RM400k-ish nett transaction fees)
Vehicle @ RM0 - it's just a piece of metal junk that gets me from point A to point B, 15 years and running!
Cash @ RM200K - includes all kind of random cash - be it in my Flexi Loan, FD / StashAway Simple / Overseas Cash / etc. Recently hoarded more than I'd personally like, but no choice since I need to spend these in short/mid term.
EPF (Passive) @ RM447K - passively managed EPF a.k.a our sweet sweet Conventional Portfolio with yearly dividends
EPF (Active) @ RM117K - actively managed EPF a.k.a i-Invest or withdraw-to-invest and try to outsmart EPF. And yes, I fared worse than EPF. Might as well kept it untouched. bye.gif
My "Freedom" Portfolio @ RM440K - ETFs, Stocks, FDs, and all random craps
Liability:
Mortgage Loan @ RM310K - been accelerating my payments since Dec 2023 before I make my next big move in my lifetime.
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beautiful story, well done sis.

real networth should be close to 1.5 mil, but i see someone very humble here smile.gif

hard work never disappoint, and yes, we need luck in life. those who deny the presence of luck is just kidding themselves.

remain thankful everyday thumbsup.gif

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Apr 25 2024, 05:40 PM)
An update:

KWSP - RM179.9k
Equities - RM347.9k
Cash - RM12.9k
ILP - RM12.6k
Bond - RM40.5k

Credit card - RM26.9k

Total - RM566.9k

Home MV ~RM470-500k / Remaining HL RM447k
Car MV ~RM60-65k / Remaining HP RM64k

* Will exclude these from net asset computation, the MV (slightly conservative) just about covers the remaining loan amount.

Age - 30 y/o

Target RM1mil net worth by 35, and RM1mil in EPF by 40 (purely from employment, except self-contribution <RM3k p.a. to meet the tax benefit as long as it's available). At the moment, despite life throwing some curveballs (RM40k in unexpected expenses in the last 6 months), still on track.
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well done, brother. you know what you want at the age of 35 and 40.

remember to give yourself some space, if you don't hit them. we need to enjoy life during the process as well thumbsup.gif

can i ask if your equities are in foreign currencies? and what does the cc mean? debt?


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QUOTE(myroy @ Apr 30 2024, 10:37 AM)
im 30y old in kuli IT career

i saw this tread and i seems "How the hell you guys can save a lot"
i came from b40 family from east cost, and something i need to gave some money to my parent & siblings not much just a few hundreds

Hope this can get align back on my mission to follow you guys step

i would love to get advice on this

Loan
House = RM460k - RM2100/month remaining RM420,000
Study loan = RM88,+++ remaining RM45,+++
Transport = RM45,+++ remaining RM24,+++

Assest
Physical Gold = RM20,+++
Cash  investment = RM25,+++

My current goal is to get RM100k worth of cash investment, pay up my transport -> study loan -> then house
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hi, b40 here too in the past.

debt is one obstacles to your ability to save money, because your money is spent servicing the interest rate.

check if you investment earns more than your debt interest. if it doesn't, then time to pay off your high interest debt.

as the rest day, SAVE SAVE SAVE is your best friend, and ACTIVE INCOME is your next best thing, after passive income/ interest income.

find ways to make money. all the best, brother.
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QUOTE(terriblyrawtea @ Aug 29 2024, 11:34 PM)
I usually try to strive for atleast 50% savings per month
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This is great rule of thumb....

I used to be very strict with my expenses, but I understand sometimes need to enjoy life as well. The key is save enough to invest well, NOT to save too much till your life becomes miserable.

But the 50% rule is great!

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Aug 30 2024, 08:16 AM)
I am person who believes in sacrifices. If you watch this YouTubers minority mindset and lots of people who have FIRE, all gave the answer. Sacrifice a decade to 15 years.
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what % of saving do you mean when it comes to sacrifices.

again, i say saving a lot is good, make sure not to eat white rice and soy sauce every day only, for the sake of FIRE. still maintain some things in life that you enjoy doing.



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post Aug 30 2024, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Aug 30 2024, 08:26 AM)
I used to think like Ramjade as well ... but I'm not more aligned with your philosophy, especially since I don't have that many days left to enjoy that which I've painstakingly built up over the decades. If not now, when?
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Like someone I know, suddenly passaway when go swimming. Couldn't enjoy the wealth he has accumulated.

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