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post Apr 26 2024, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Apr 25 2024, 05:40 PM)
An update:

KWSP - RM179.9k
Equities - RM347.9k
Cash - RM12.9k
ILP - RM12.6k
Bond - RM40.5k

Credit card - RM26.9k

Total - RM566.9k

Home MV ~RM470-500k / Remaining HL RM447k
Car MV ~RM60-65k / Remaining HP RM64k

* Will exclude these from net asset computation, the MV (slightly conservative) just about covers the remaining loan amount.

Age - 30 y/o

Target RM1mil net worth by 35, and RM1mil in EPF by 40 (purely from employment, except self-contribution <RM3k p.a. to meet the tax benefit as long as it's available). At the moment, despite life throwing some curveballs (RM40k in unexpected expenses in the last 6 months), still on track.
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You'll get there. I hit the EPF mark and the compounding will take it even further faster.
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post Apr 29 2024, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Apr 29 2024, 05:30 PM)
Yes, indeed. Victims of echo chambers like /r and skewed perspectives offered by social media.
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People here are just too negative. Malaysian's complain about Malaysia, yearning for Singapore. Singaporeans complain about Singapore, yearning for Australia. And so on so forth.


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post Apr 30 2024, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Apr 29 2024, 10:20 PM)
I can’t tell you what is the best currency, but I can share with you the ones I carry at the moment - SGD, AUD, USD and NZD in order of decreasing amounts
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This. SGD and USD is probably the best option, as USD is still the anchor of the world currency, so its accepted easily and SGD's monetary approach means its value would be less volatile.
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post Apr 30 2024, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(myroy @ Apr 30 2024, 10:37 AM)
im 30y old in kuli IT career

i saw this tread and i seems "How the hell you guys can save a lot"
i came from b40 family from east cost, and something i need to gave some money to my parent & siblings not much just a few hundreds

Hope this can get align back on my mission to follow you guys step

i would love to get advice on this

Loan
House = RM460k - RM2100/month remaining RM420,000
Study loan = RM88,+++ remaining RM45,+++
Transport = RM45,+++ remaining RM24,+++

Assest
Physical Gold = RM20,+++
Cash  investment = RM25,+++

My current goal is to get RM100k worth of cash investment, pay up my transport -> study loan -> then house
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Everyone's on their own journey, so don't compare la. You are doing great so keep it up.

My 2 cents on this:

1) You have too much in gold. It's a good hedge against stock market but given your horizon is long, there really isn't a need to have such a big allocation in your portfolio.

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2) Focus on increasing your income. That's really one of the easiest and fastest way to improve financial wellbeing of a person, and one that is very much ignored by most.

3) For the loan, what are the interest rate on those?
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post May 1 2024, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(myroy @ Apr 30 2024, 03:09 PM)
3) For the loan, what are the interest rate on those?
house 4.5%
transport 4%
loan (ptptn) - 1%
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Given the rates, ptptn is one of the best and lowest loan around.

So settle that last, pay what you need and leave it be. Focus instead on closing the house loan first, then car then only the education.
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post May 2 2024, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(ronnie @ May 2 2024, 07:59 AM)
car loan effective rate is higher than mortgage actually... the 4% flat rate is "fake"
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I am under the impression that his car loan is fixed, so you pay more every month also chances are whatever you committed to pay, you have to pay. For houses, still can reduce if its a flexi so can reduce in terms on interest paid.


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post May 2 2024, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(ronnie @ May 2 2024, 10:22 AM)
Car loans in malaysia is tie to rule of 78... no point pay back early unless your loan is new
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That's why ask him to focus on house, then car and finally education.
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post Sep 2 2024, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(HolyCooler @ Sep 2 2024, 12:59 PM)
Just came across this post, to be honest, i used to think like that, but after involved in car accidents, i changed my mind now.

Car is not only a transport tool, but it is a life-saving tool too. Imagine accident happens and imagine the differences if you are in a Mercesdes/BMW/Volvo (newer cars are super keras nowadays) compare to a myvi/local cars/vios/city? It makes huge difference, really huge difference. Cheaper cars can be destroyed easily, and those luxury cars probably still in a situation that only suffer a minor/medium damages.

Btw, congrat to all the guys who built lots of networth!
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There's a lot of things that I feel people are penny-wise, pound foolish. A car is one of them. Is it a liability, financial wise? Yes.

But given the average person would spend 1-2hrs a day travelling on car, which is around one month of the year in total just sitting in a car, in a jam, driving mindlessly to work, to travel, etc.. So, why wouldn't you want to be comfortable and happy with that otherwise miserable experience?

What I do agree on, is there is a diminishing return on money spent on cars. Safety wise, some of our local cars are almost on par with the conti's, we can also look to ANCAP rating as a guide on what they have and don't. The rest are more towards comfort level, noise level etc but I genuinely doubt a BMW is 3x better than say X70, even though thats the price diffentiation.

Secondly, 60% of road fatalities are motorcyclist, so I'd always say even a Kancil is better than a 2 wheeler to increase your survival chances in accident. Another two big contributors to accidents are drunk driving and that only 48 per cent of Malaysians were recorded to have worn their seatbelts. All these are totally preventable and it doesn't matter what car one drives.

Another thing is mattress / pillows. We spend 6-8hours daily sleeping, but don't want to spend money on a good mattress, rather change the cheapo one every year or two when it kemek and your backpain. A good mattress last you 15-20 years, and prevent you from body aches or bad sleep. Penny wise, pound foolish.

Last one is having comfort in spending on enriching experiences. Keep all the money to retire and do what if your body and mind can't enable you to experience things you should have done when you are younger like trying out new food, new places, meet new people, play new sport, etc etc
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post Oct 16 2024, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(BboyDora @ Oct 14 2024, 09:53 AM)
I dunno how true is it but what I can see in reality, rich malaysians are more than that. 1% of 30 millions malaysian populations = 300,000. if I take Singapore as a benchmarks, there are more than 300,000 malaysian have more than RM 15 mil. So malaysia top 1% are more than Singapore or other countries?

I dun have data to support my comments here so dun blast me ya.
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This is just how much you need to be considered in the top 1% of the country. For Malaysia, roughly RM2.2mil in net wealth you would be considered in top 1%.

https://malaysia.news.yahoo.com/malaysia-ju...-102955555.html

If you are saying just by sheer number of people, of course we might have more rich people vs Singapore due to our population differences.

But top 1% is very different when you start to break down within it.
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post Oct 16 2024, 06:27 PM

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QUOTE(Boomwick @ Oct 16 2024, 06:19 PM)
Wow really?
2.2m already is top 1% ?

Dam why i still feel so poor one..
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Wait until you hear about the new definition of rich.

https://www.ft.com/content/b677d2f1-fe7d-47...ec-b23424331d10

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David Gibson-Moore, president of consultancy Gulf Analytica, says the traditional $30mn level “allows for significant investments across multiple asset classes — stocks, bonds, real estate, private equity” — while also furnishing luxuries such as private-jet travel. But, over time, as the financial world has expanded and the accumulation of wealth has accelerated in certain sectors, particularly technology, “the bar for what it means to be ultra-wealthy has risen” he observes. “The $30mn threshold . . . doesn’t carry the same weight or exclusivity it once did. In today’s world, $30mn might secure you a luxurious lifestyle but, in the realms of the ultra-rich, it’s increasingly viewed as just the starting point,” Gibson-Moore adds.

“The ultra-rich today are being measured by new standards, with some financial commentators now suggesting $100mn is the new yardstick for anyone who wants to keep their head held high at private equity parties.


You don't have USD100mil you don't even exist in their eyes tongue.gif
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post Oct 25 2024, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(furuku89 @ Oct 22 2024, 09:37 PM)
Investment banking
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As long as you enjoy the new piece bro cool2.gif

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post Nov 1 2024, 08:35 PM

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QUOTE(KitZhai @ Nov 1 2024, 06:03 PM)
I only have EPF about 100k....

Nothing else...
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Better than zero. Keep it up bro.
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post Nov 2 2024, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(KitZhai @ Nov 1 2024, 08:55 PM)
It's more like zero... No property, no business, no asset lol...
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Just keep grinding, nothing now means you get to try everything.
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post Nov 3 2024, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(KitZhai @ Nov 2 2024, 04:42 PM)
Got tips how to find money? Or any job?
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I'm just a ta kong zhai that got lucky to make a decent salary.

So I'm not qualified to give business advice compared to other sifus here.
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post Nov 4 2024, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(Lembu Goreng @ Nov 4 2024, 05:39 PM)
Not exactly teaches trading, but about how you view money

A book called ‘Psychology of money’

Frankly anyone can be rich/milionaires, depends on how fast you want to get there
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Also Eason Chan song "陀飛輪".

Both really helped to change my perception.
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post Nov 14 2024, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(gashout @ Nov 14 2024, 05:59 AM)
continue our discussion, i received an email this morning, titled - i am going to die soon.

a guy, who has been very active in our community, developed prostate cancer in 2022, and been very aggressive and spread to other parts of his body. doctor has given him weeks, or max 2 mths to be alive.

life is short, apart from financial health, we have other health to focus on - physical health, relationship health, work health, and spiritual health. we need to focus on them too.

i went to bed feeling down last night. im thinking a lot this week - one death is pending, one person gets bullied (and think deserved it), and one gets promoted. how much we are taking in superficial credits in this life, feeling proud about it, then die.

sorry for my rant.
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That's why those that want admiration for saving 80% of their money or whatever is laughable. Just go live a little.

I've seen millionaires refusing to change their old Saga because it's cheap, discounting the fact that new cars have much much better safety features which will offset whatever you think you are saving by not buying it.

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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Nov 14 2024, 01:51 PM)
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i like to once a while look at the chart above from some website... everyone is dying... that is certainty (except maybe a certain ex-PM)...
one decide what one wants to do with each of the diamond... and they are not all equal. and would consider super lucky if can get 90 of such diamonds.
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Malaysia average life expectancy is 75yo bro.

If you are 37yo, you officially can suffer from midlife crisis d haha.

If you hoard money until 60, you only realistically have 10 years to spend majority of it as last 5 years your body won't be as cooperative.

So there's a line between frivolous daily spending and excessive saving until one is miserable day to day for the hope of a better retirement.
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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Nov 14 2024, 07:41 PM)
glad you realize that.... not like some ktards who think they are very special and will definitely and surely live way past 80.

i just took the picture verbatim from some website and it was written there to be 90.

i personally always set my expected lifespan at 80, ever since i went to uni. 80 is a good number and easy to divide and calculate a lot of stuff.
also, one need to realize that the last 10 diamonds are worser quality than the middle 10 diamonds. Plus I have used up the most valuable diamonds already, which is the 3rd and 4th row's. sad...  cry.gif
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Got chance to live longer depending on state and gender lol.

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post Dec 27 2024, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(BboyDora @ Dec 27 2024, 09:02 AM)
I ady work more than 30 years and no RM 1 million leh.

Not everyone got father mother granparents support leh
younger days, I need to pay for my own education (loan) "your parents didnt pay for your education???" (I get that a lot)
buy my own first car (loan) " your parents didnt pay for your down payment????" (I get that a lot)
buy my own first house (loan) "your parents didnt pay for your down payment???"(I get that a lot)

then need to pay to support family .

but i dont expect everyone to understand because those who never been in the situation, they will never know
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The EPF math works out. Reality of course depends.

I didn't have anyone to pay my education or my car or my house.

If you withdraw EPF for house, how much is the house worth? Networth takes into account that. Most people don't have RM1mil lying around in a bank, they have it as part of assets.

If you started with a salary of RM3,000 and receive zero increment and zero bonus for the rest of your career, you will have RM1mil in EPF. Provided if nothing is being withdrawn.

While I will agree not everyone will have a 3k salary blah blah blah, but if you retire at 60 or 65, and you can't get a single cent of increment, there isn't anyone to blame.
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QUOTE(BboyDora @ Dec 27 2024, 04:59 PM)
Not everyone is fortunate to keep EPF without withdrawal till age 65 years. especially during MCO. if no withdrawal , i ady eat grass.

ok la. back to the the thread.

so guys, how much your net worth?  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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Exactly, life is not theory so you run your race la bro. Don't measure against others, else you will never find the happiness line.

I think the members here all preach the same. As long as you met your goals in life, it's worth celebrating.

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