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MOBA Heroes of Newerth (HoN) V2 ~ Hon > LoL > DotA, plz dun ask for beta keys in this thread

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post Dec 4 2009, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(FatalExe @ Dec 3 2009, 10:58 PM)
as a carry, last hit is more important than denying, and even less important if opponent is not carry hero
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Even as a carry I am able to deny, harass and farm on an equal ground. Obviously carries prioritize a last hit over a deny, but when presented the chance, one shouldn't be idling there. And in the span of that 40 minute game (on average 30~60), it has become reflex to deny a low health creep, so..

Also, if you are going to use that as a basis for debate, I would have gotten the idea that one would ONLY play carries? High specialization there buddy. Cheers.

QUOTE(KHOdin @ Dec 4 2009, 01:23 AM)
actually i don't really deny creeps if the enemy don't start the trouble we will just farm peace biggrin.gif
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It becomes really important in high tier games where every single experience makes the difference. That two denies could have stopped a support hero from levelling and would've allowed you a kill. Games in high tiers are decided by the laning phase & ganking phase, and unless your team has the wtfpwn ability to turtle it out for 50 minutes whilst your carry farms..well you could've just lost by the 20th minute.

I'm by no means a superstar HoN player, but I think these are the basics people should learn to practice if they wish to stop playing with fails, ragequitters and ah bengs.

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post Dec 5 2009, 11:37 PM

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Need to play, withdrawal symptoms due to part time work in the PC fair.
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post Dec 7 2009, 02:26 AM

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QUOTE(friendly_ip @ Dec 7 2009, 02:19 AM)
for me, many white boys like to whine or talking cock. Especially those noob one lol
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Welcome to HoN biggrin.gif You'll never find a friendlier community in the world.
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post Dec 7 2009, 09:58 PM

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post Dec 8 2009, 09:54 PM

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Do you need Bear dude? tongue.gif
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post Dec 9 2009, 12:20 AM

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So really, no games at this time?
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post Dec 9 2009, 12:27 AM

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Back to Pokemon Platinum then sleep.gif
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post Dec 9 2009, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(Leo3010 @ Dec 9 2009, 05:22 PM)
Rofl you poor boys and your Final school exams....ah reminds me of old times lol
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Yes and then we start thinking of University exams -shudder-
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post Dec 13 2009, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ Dec 13 2009, 10:49 AM)
deadwood first skill > keeper ulti sweat.gif

sure, the range maybe smaller and there is a 2 seconds delay, but he can spawn it very more often than keeper.
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His ult > all.

Physical nuke means its damage can go UP if he stacks armor debuffs.
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post Dec 13 2009, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ Dec 13 2009, 02:46 PM)
so basically,

-6 shield breaker,
-5 demonic breast plate,
-5 andromedia 2nd skill,
-15 pestilence ulti

-26 armor total

then deadwood can one hit kill many heroes liao? lol
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-5 Pandamonium (Flick)
-31 Demented Shaman (Storm Cloud)

Yes you can potentially one-hit anyone.

QUOTE(wow1wow2 @ Dec 13 2009, 05:52 PM)
HoN is going f2p soon =( not going to pay for it
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nobody cares.

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post Dec 14 2009, 02:02 AM

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QUOTE(Leo3010 @ Dec 13 2009, 10:04 PM)
Deadwood isnt a complete tank like the new Treant, hes more Support and Physical Dmg dealer.

His ulti not very strong even if you stack out the -armour debuff on it. The reason why I say this is cause, it does 400 dmg at lvl 3 but does slow debuff which is good for slowing dwn fast running bastrds.

His initial Stats also make him a caster more than a straight tank, I was using Andromeda last night and another guy was using tree. 1 stun could drop his initial 1k something hp at lvl 1 to maybe greenish yelo or yelo depending wht level your at.

But his 1st skill is freakin dangerous if timed correctly he can wipe and entire team....the tree toss also helps with retreating heroes...again another support skill.

His tree walking (lawn mower skill) dominates the Treants eye skill. Plus it gves him a healthy buff to his speed making him runn like a rabbit with steriods.

*edit* Opps his utli also lowers the strength of Heavy strength users like treant as well. So overall his ulti is a very strong support aoe. But not competable with treants ult.
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I'd take deadwood lowering your STR by 40% in an AoE over treant's 5 second lock anyday.

Tempest + Treant or Tempest + Deadwood?

I think the former fails more.
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post Dec 14 2009, 07:45 PM

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Its Magmus, and also Tempest > Magmus. Magmus > KotF, but KotF can turn into an initiator/carry.
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post Dec 15 2009, 12:44 AM

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Leo, did you get good footage for the video?

We won that game 60ish-24. Lockdown!
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post Dec 15 2009, 10:08 PM

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I'll be more than happy to answer inquiries about game mechanics or anything going on. Just be polite and I'll help. I have a strong disapproval of retards.

Thanks Leo, yeah the game was funny.
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post Dec 15 2009, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(bighead85 @ Dec 15 2009, 10:29 PM)
my first time play i feed and all people tulan me... i really hav no idea bout the game... can i play wif computer for the game for practise or its there anywhere i can refer as a guideline???
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Refer to the official forums for guides, or ask any other senior gamer on this thread to guide you. This game has a steep learning curve, so take your time. Last words : Do NOT play Easy Mode.
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post Dec 16 2009, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(-Torrz @ Dec 15 2009, 11:53 PM)
lol...isnt em the beginner steps to playing??
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No, EM gives you a false sense of the metagame. The laning phase and ganking phase in non-em games are highly delicate and are important for newbies to learn.
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post Dec 16 2009, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ Dec 16 2009, 05:25 PM)
yup. funs! just like playing team fortress 2. biggrin.gif

traditional AP game bores me.

i prefer exciting game modes. biggrin.gif
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post Dec 16 2009, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(-Torrz @ Dec 16 2009, 10:55 PM)
lol since when there is keeper of the forest in HoN? not saying deadwood but the actual clone from dota... huh.gif
jst played a game with it inside and his ulti looks so.....loli
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