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satsugai
post Feb 3 2010, 08:06 AM

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i wanna start stronglifts 5x5 but theres just no way i can do the chin up/pull ups part of it.

i could do it with the negative pull up machine but the stronglifts ebook says that its a huge no-no.

but since i have no choice would the whole programme be pointless by going ahead and using the machine?
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post Feb 3 2010, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(ken86 @ Feb 3 2010, 09:45 AM)
Let's continue where we left off in our PMs

"and yeah im prone to being fat, should i ditch the dairy even if im drinking no fat milk? @>@ ouh and i didnt mean cereal per se, meant oats and weet bix XD"

Being fat is not about eating fat. It's the excess carbs that is making u fat provided your caloric intake is within your range. Weet bix and oats are a great start for complex carbs source. Eat your veggies also.

I have posted a post on how to perform your 1st pullup and I am too lazy to search it. It involves performing negative pullups, the pullup machine has very little carry over to the real pullup. I say man up and give the bar some tuggin.

What are your goals again ?
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goals wpould be to get stronger, lose fat and build muscle basically. cos yeah, right now im weak as hell, was doing more cardio and neglected the weights(half assed it most of the time) part of gymming before this. aight will try and see how i go with the bar can barely hang on now T_T or are there any other exercises i could do to build up strength for an actual pullup?

QUOTE(iamyuanwu @ Feb 3 2010, 11:16 AM)

Don't stand on the assisted pull up machine.
Kneel with the knees (and the feet off the ground) on the machine. Meaning only the knee touches the support, the shins, toes and feet is pointing upwards into the sky.
And look up at the ceiling above your head. (Imagine theres a piece of nice Belgian chocolate bar hanging from the ceiling, and then you to pull up and literally take a bite with your mouth). <--- seriously, it makes pull ups easier this way.

Then EXPLODE up! Don't just pull, EXPLODE!

Also do the 'negative pull ups' without assistance.

And do a bit of heavy pull downs (lat machine) too. I know it doesn't carry over (to pull ups). But since you're doing negative pull ups at the same time, the strength gained from it can be useful.
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so ur saying that i can use the machine as long as i use the method you mentioned and supplement it with negatives?

so ur saying i could use the machine as long as i use that method u mentioned, and do both machine and negatives? @>@
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post Feb 4 2010, 02:58 AM

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Kk now I'm getting advice
to go ahead on a split instead of strength training cos
it'd be harder to
build muscle if I were to strength train first haizzzz I'm fkn confused with all of this sighhh so yeah should i just go ahead with a 4 day split for 3 months then strength train? Or the other way round, man this shit is
complicated pretty sure I got the diet part down just can't figure out which routine is best for a beginner to build muscle ><


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