Bodybuilding Thread V6, Bodybuilding Discussion
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 Apr 14 2010, 11:13 PM
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QUOTE(John91 @ Apr 14 2010, 11:07 PM) For intermediate can ar? I also want leh. oh ya, was supposed to train under this guy last year, but was cancelled.  he used to come to California Fitness once in awhile last time. very big guy. like dinosour. |
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Apr 14 2010, 11:26 PM
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Apr 14 2010, 11:05 PM) Military press and clean and press kinda useless. Did it at Terry's gym and he told me to scrap them scrap military press???from my routine. its not useless!!! they are the cornerstone exercise in any serious delt workout. he probably asked u to scrap it to try a diff type of exercise to stimulate your shoulder growth. |
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Apr 15 2010, 06:45 PM
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oh yes, of course i mean if you would want to isolate your shoulder muscle as much as possible, true.
But for us beginners (hehe) it is important that we do standing military press as it also give some stress to other bodyparts such as lower back, quads our balance etc etc, so that they get stronger over time. same like Deadlift la for example. but me myself i prefer siting military press. there's much pro and cons la on this issue, depends on what you want to achieve. and yes totally agree that dumbell shoulder press is the best of all,. phewww... by just thinking about it makes me wanna do some shoulder press now... maybe tonight  |
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Apr 15 2010, 10:31 PM
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Apr 15 2010, 07:29 PM) Then it's not called seated military press anymore. It's called a seated barbell press. What if I tell you that the deadlift isn't necessary for bodybuilding too? Not saying it's a useless exercise. It's ok, I deadlift once every few months but I can definitely hold more than my own against the powerlifters here. no no no, i think you misunderstood. im not saying to get stronger back you should do military press.Your argument is kinda flawed bro. If you want to strengthen your lower back, you're trying to tell me that the military press should be done? The principle of specificity applies. Want to get bigger arms, do direct arm work. Want to get bigger shoulders, do direct shoulder work. Kinda simple isn't it? The problem with bodybuilding is that a lot of beginners tend to overanalyze too much. I suggest Bob Cicherillo's JFT program for bodybuilding. you're right bigger arms = work your arm, bigger back = work your back i dont know how to put it in words but i know how it works in my head. i'm not arguing bro, im not saying you're wrong, im just saying Military Presses are definetely not useless, well maybe not as effectively as dumbell shoulder presses. but it helps you to gain strength on your overall body, your balances and your lower back. and of course deadlift is not necessary for bodybuildings. ton's of exercise that you can do to make your back grow without having to deadlift. but it can help you build strength faster than any other type of lift, am i right? btw whats your maximum weight for deadlift? |
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Apr 15 2010, 10:58 PM
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Apr 15 2010, 10:37 PM) You still don't get it. Strength is secondary to bodybuilders, period. We don't really give a flying f*ck about core. We don't give a damn about flexibility and balance. Tell you what, you keep doing your military presses, I get another trainee say John91 to do db shoulder presses and 2 of you compare deltoids in a few months time. Dude. chill, why are you getting so worked out over such a small matters?You're arguing just for the sake of arguing. Fine, maybe USELESS is a bit too strong a word for military press but it's NOT the optimal exercise at all for bodybuilding purposes. Shall I give you the link to the EMG studies too? K, tell you what, you go post in the IFBB section at bb.com touting the military press. Tell me what happens. My max for deadlift is 135lbs. no one is arguing, im just giving out opinion. nvm, everyone has a different opinion. |
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Apr 16 2010, 11:20 PM
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Apr 16 2010, 11:16 PM) Shit Terry's thread got removed or it went to the second page. Anyone know wtf happened? Even Terry was asking about it. couldn't be it was moved to second page.someone might have deleted it??? i searched under your topics, it's not there. |
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Apr 21 2010, 01:41 PM
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QUOTE(John91 @ Apr 20 2010, 05:05 PM) Not sure dude cuz I'm still in bulking phase for a few more weeks lol. Everyone else is cutting already. Dude,when is it and where?? |
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Apr 26 2010, 02:59 PM
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I scored 1.75 Mesamorph???
i thought i was a fatso endo???? duh... |
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Apr 26 2010, 03:09 PM
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Really?
LOL but maybe false report?? maybe get doctor's answer is better. |
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Apr 26 2010, 03:50 PM
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QUOTE(jamis @ Apr 26 2010, 03:36 PM) For injuries recovery i m not sure buddy. I use BCAA mainly for anti catabolism and increasing protein synthesis. So... better protein synthesis = better recovery? No idea, hehe got to ask Mr. Google yup correct, better recovery |
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