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Ramjade
post Oct 25 2016, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(you90 @ Oct 25 2016, 09:11 AM)
Can you share more reviews on this Unicity Detox plan?
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Unicity is a MLM company. Avoid at all cost. Not worth your money and health.
http://www.unicity.com/usa/company/

Best to DIY.
1. Drink at least 2-3 cups of green tea/white tea + lemon/lime everyday.
2. Make sure your plate is fillednwith 80% fruits and vege. Your very own cheap DIY plan.

This post has been edited by Ramjade: Oct 25 2016, 10:13 AM
Ramjade
post Oct 27 2016, 07:37 PM

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QUOTE(angkhian @ Oct 27 2016, 07:21 PM)
I think it's unfair to labelized Unicity products saying that it's not worth the money and health. Unicity uses MLM business model to run their business, but that doesn't mean the products are not good. So please do your research properly before making such claims.

I personally used the Clearstart 30 detox every 6 months and it worked for me. So here I am sharing my experience.
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I already did. That's why I can say such thing. Don't believe me?
Clearstart 30 contains

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LiFiber

Lifiber  is a psyllium-based powder drink mix that provides 8 times more soluble fiber than oat bran. Studies indicate the soluble fiber may help reduce blood cholesterol, while insoluble fiber helps clear the colon of toxins and other wastes. LiFiber is the scrub for your digestive system.

You can just buy psyllium husk and drink it. It's cheap.

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Paraway Plus

Paraway Plus puts Black Walnut Hulls to work, killing many kinds of intestinal worms, especially tapeworms. The active ingredient juglone, exerts antifungal, antiparasite, antiviral and antibacterial effects. Also included is Pumpkin seed, that paralyses rather than kills the parasites.
Black walnut, pumpkin seeds. Nothing spectacular. Just buy black walnut extract and eat pumpkin seed.

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Nature’s Tea

Nature’s Tea improves regularity and colon functions. Constipation becomes a problem when transit time is slowed. Many people love the taste and the slim belly effect as it clears out the accumulated waste from the colon.
I can't find the ingredients for it but I can bet no tra can beat the power of Japanese green tea/white tea with lemon.

Clearway only last 30 days. How much do you pay for it? I can make the same thing which can last at least 3 months with that price. Now you tell me about not making research.

I make my own research based on journals and buy them myself instead of relying on MLM companies. Already save more 200% since buying myself. If you want to continue giving them free money, be my guest. biggrin.gif
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post Oct 27 2016, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(angkhian @ Oct 27 2016, 08:13 PM)
Thanks for clarifying your claims. I agree there are many ways to do detoxing, even cheaper to do it your way. Thanks for sharing.
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No problem. I always tell people to not rely on MLM/direct sales company because these companies their first priority is profit.
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post Dec 15 2016, 01:06 AM

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QUOTE(oyching88 @ Dec 15 2016, 12:42 AM)
Doesn't you selling supplements also looking for profit? biggrin.gif
Talking about MLM/direct sales, You deal with the distributor from MLM/direct sales, not the company. So, the problem is on the distributor him/herself.
One can tell you the slimming products can help you reduce 10kg in 5 days, but it may not be the real case.
It's just like you walk into a pharmacy, the pharmacist is eager to sell off the highest profit products and exaggerate the benefits.
The same case here, you are dealing with the pharmacist, not the product's company.
To toot one's own horn, it goes down to ethic of a person/seller.
Never just listen blindly, you can do your own research just like you going to buy something.
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Not really. I recommend those people the product name. Up to them want to buy from me or buy themselves directly.
All MLM/direct sales whether you buy directly from the company or the distributor are overpriced. How I know? I was ex Cosway customer. Got it straight from the source.
Then I compared Elken/Amway (website price) vs straight from US, found that it's cheaper to buy myself than relying on those companies.

Even by buying from me, my customers already save at least 100% than buying from Cosway/Elken/Amway.

Agreed. One should research before buying.
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post Dec 15 2016, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(oyching88 @ Dec 15 2016, 03:17 PM)
How do you compare website price and straight from US?
There is so called member price & retailing price (non member price), in MLM/direct sales if you were not a member of course the price is different.
For amway, if you are not member, what you saw is retailing price.
When you buy from MLM/direct sales, you are only dealing with distributors (not to say e-cosway business startup as it require you as stockist, you can get far better price than member price).
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Eg. Cosway NN Spirulina/Elken Spirulina/Amway Multivitamin

Did you know that Cosway uses the same spirulina from Parry Nutraceuticals (from India)? NOW is the cheapest company which uses Parry Nutraceuticals spirulina. Same product, different price. Just search online at Amazon and you can see the price difference. Now, you will be saying what about shipping? You can use direct freight forwarders and still save compare if buy directly from Cosway/Amway/Elken. Alternatively can buy online from online shops.. I myself save min 200% by not buying from Cosway. I use to take the NOW brand then I switch. (I don't recommend taking the Parry Nutraceuticals spirulina)

For Amway multivitamin, just check with other good brand like Life Extension/Pure Essence (these 2 are way superior). Repeat the above. How much can you get discount? RM10-20 by being member? Even with that tiny saving, buying straight from US yourself is way cheaper.

Another example. Fish oil. Eg. Amway Salmon Oil. 120 softgels which contain 180 mg of EPA and 120 mg of DHA. For that same price you pay if you are member, one can get better quality and higher concentration from Carlson Elite Gems 240 softgels. Don't believe me? Let's bet. The omega 3 from carlson are at least twice Amway at 400mg of EPA and 300mg of DHA. It cost about RM260 (after shipping). Compare that with how much Amway is selling.

Then there's question about quality. No fish oil in Malaysia are certified to be clean from pollutants/fresh (not rancid) and meet the min amount as stated on their labels. Certain US fish oils are certified by International Fish Oil Standards (IFOS). For me personally, I only take fish oil certified by IFOS. The IFOS Program is the only third party testing and certification program for fish oils. IFOS sets the world's highest standards for purity, potency and freshness. If a certain product did not meet that standard it's unsafe to consume.

You want more proof? Just get me Amway's member price and I will get you an equivalent product at cheaper price.

I already save >RM3k by opting not to be Cosway member anymore.

This post has been edited by Ramjade: Dec 15 2016, 05:14 PM
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post Dec 15 2016, 07:26 PM

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QUOTE(jesserider223 @ Dec 15 2016, 06:29 PM)
this is great info, i'm very impressed

so if i started by buying from you, the supplements should still be cheaper from Amway/Cosway, right?

the way u research, how did you find out Cosway's spirulina is OEM from Parry's?

why is Parry's not recommended anymore?
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Yes definitely cheaper. Just google. I think I found it from a amazon review if I am not mistaken. Here you go.
http://www.ecosway.com/ecosway/SuperSelect...628262/main.jsp

Was using Parry. Then I found Nutrex Hawaii (more info can be found here). Stuck with Nutrex ever since. Reason for switching:
- Nutrex uses 2000ft deep ocean water which enrich it with trace minerals (something which no spirulina producer in the world does)
- Nutrex spirulina is dried using the same deep ocean water in seconds without heat.
- Nutrex package their product in dark air tight bottles (which I must say is excellent to protect the product)
- Nutrex is located in the US where quality control is stricter compare to in India (same reason I avoid Taiwan, China spirulina). You do not know how their quality control are. For Nutrex, I asked for Certificate of Analysis (CoA) for heavy metals, chemicals, bacterial contamination and they gave me a copy of 3rd party lab CoA of their spirulina.
For me, getting the CoA of a product is very important before consuming as I am taking it into my body. If the manufacturer will not give me a CoA, I will look elsewhere. By giving me the CoA, it means they have nothing to hide.
- Smell. Parry one smelt not as good as Nutrex while Nutrex smell kind of "fresh".

If you want, we can discuss more via PM. Anything you want from Cosway/Amway/Elken/GNC I can get them for you at a cheaper price.

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post Dec 16 2016, 03:37 AM

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QUOTE(jesserider223 @ Dec 15 2016, 10:47 PM)
this is very convincing, you're definitely a very smart consumer, i'm learning a lot here....

currently i do not take any supplement, i should start soon but i'll have to take a look at Cosway/Amway/Elken/GNC's catalogs first...

important for me to know CoA should be considered and also a precious fact that thru your experiences, you're able to discern the smell between the spirulinas

will contact you later after decided...
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No hurries. A perfect example is shown below.

QUOTE(oyching88 @ Dec 16 2016, 12:59 AM)
Yes for Cosway or Elken or any brands that don't have their own production.
Nutrilite utilize their own farm & production, not by supplier which are ready made.
Talking about Amazon, why Amazon? We have Lelong.com and mudah.com biggrin.gif  But then can you trust on what the contents are?
Have you seen counterfeit Blackmores before? It's 40% cheaper rclxms.gif
Honest speaking, there are only few possible reasons for cheap price:
1) almost expired
2) expired
3) doing charity
4) you are able to get the cost price direct from production rclxms.gif

For Amway retailing price & member price, it's way above RM10-20 sorry to tell that.

If you want price/quantity you can get way cheaper brands just by visiting any local pharmacy, Blackmores is already cheaper than a lot of brands.
Cheap is not always the best but then, expensive is not always the best too, get know more about the products and compare it to take what suite you most.

Great that you can provide the most cheapest price from all brands rclxms.gif
Btw, how much you can get for Nutrilite 120 tabs Bio C??
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Why amazon? Because there you will get honest customer review where they will compare other products. Items sold on lelong. mudah are not even worth looking at. All selling same stuff as those sold by Malaysian pharmacy. You can't even see the full list of ingredients on Malaysian online store. Yup. That's why you get the CoA, look at official company label to check out what's inside (in US, there's a law that the manufacturer must list out what he put inside. Cannot hide. If hide and found out, can kena sue. Don't need to list until exact mg just the contents).

Honestly, I don't take blackmoore anymore. There's so much better brand than Blackmore (Healthy Origins, Nutrex Hawaiian, Carlson, Nordic Naturals, etc)

Those products I get are genuine and expired min 2-3 years from purchase biggrin.gif rclxms.gif
US stores buy in bulk so they are practically half price than what's sold by the official manufacturer. Supplements in the US are cheap compare to Malaysia.

You sound like Amway agent. hmm.gif

I told you I don't sell Amway. You can check review on Amazon and see what people think of Amway.

Nutrilite 120 tabs Bio C. Ingredients
Vitamin C ( from ascorbic acid & Acerola Cherry Concentrate) 500mg
Acerola Cherry Concentrate (Acerola Cherry extract,[Malpighia emarginate L.(fruit ),maltodextrin,silicon dioxide] ?mg
Citrus multiflavonoid complex ( grape fruit, mandarin, Lemon) [ fruit & Peel ] ? mg
Cheapest I saw RM130

Have your pick
(i) Now C-500 complex 500mg/tablet 250 tablets = RM78
Ingredients:
Vitamin C (Ascorbic Acid) 500 mg
Citrus bioflavonoids Complex 100 mg
Acerola powder (Malpighia punicifolia) (Fruit) 100 mg
Rose hips powder (Rosa canina) (Fruit) 100 mg
Rutin powder (Sophora japonica) (Flower Bud) 10mg

(ii) Natural Factors time released vitamin C 1000mg/tablet 180 tablets = RM91
Ingredients:
Vitamin C (Ascorbic acid) 1000 mg
Citrus bioflavonoids extract 4:1 from 200 mg of citrus fruits = 50 mg
Hesperidin extract 4:1 from 100 mg of orange = 25mg

(iii) Ester-C 500mg/tablet 450 tablets = RM165
Ingredients:
Vitamin C (Ester-C Calcium Ascorbate) 500mg
Calcium (Ester-C Calcium Ascorbate) 55mg
Citrus bioflavonoids complex 200mg
Citrus bioflavonoids
+ Acerola, Rutin, Hesperidin complex, natural vitamin C metabolites

(iv) Now C-1000 BUffered + sustain release complex 1000mg/tablet 180 tablets = RM112
Ingredients:
Vitamin C (Calcium Ascorbate) 1000mg
Calcium (Calcium Ascorbate) 110mg
Citrus bioflavonoid complex 250mg
Acerola powder (Malpighia punicifolia) 50mg
Rutin Powder (Sophora japonica) 50 mg

Option (iii) and (iv) provide non acidic vitamin C. Now tell me again whether Amway is cheaper or more expensive. Even if it's selling at RM100, it's still expensive for a bottle. biggrin.gif rclxms.gif

For me, I personally won't buy vitamin C supplements. Why? Better option exist such as lime, lemon, roselle. Why waste money on vitamin C supplement? There are other better stuff than vitamin C for immune/antioxidant.

This post has been edited by Ramjade: Dec 16 2016, 03:40 AM
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post Dec 17 2016, 07:59 AM

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QUOTE(spreeeee @ Dec 16 2016, 04:50 PM)
Ramjade pls recommend supplements for clearing/detoxing colon.. already tried bio-life signature product "BiO-LiFE probi LP299V", like don't feel anything.. basically poo less than number of foods intake..
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Ah, I see cannot poop huh. Easy. Eat one whole biji papaya/one whole dragonfruit/day Drink at least 3L of water. No need any supplement.

QUOTE(invisibl3boyz @ Dec 16 2016, 04:55 PM)
Try Excel Tea, it make u go toilet but without really make u feel stomach very pain or such, just smooth and easy. pm me if want ..lol
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Don't drink those tea. Highly not recommended. Better to DIY own tea. Besides, cannot poop just eat more fruits + vege + drink lots of water.

QUOTE(oyching88 @ Dec 16 2016, 06:09 PM)
http://vitamincfoundation.org/esterc.htm hmm.gif

Now C
Produced in a GMP facility that processes other ingredients. Produced in a GMP facility that processes other ingredients containing these allergens.
https://www.nowfoods.com/supplements/vitami...complex-tablets  hmm.gif

Natural Factors time released vitamin C 1000mg
This is the only looks promising rclxms.gif

Yes, i would have agree with you, Blackmores still make supplements with artificial stuff.

I am not an agent, agent represent the company.
I am independent distributor which does not represent any company.
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For me, if really want to to take vitamin C, I will take Amla type of vitamin C, second choice Now. But then again, I get my vitamin C from real food (lime, roselle, capsicum). I don't quite like the idea of eating Vitamin C supplement when one can get it at lower cost and much more safely.

 

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