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Noel94
post Apr 18 2012, 06:34 PM

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guys..help me man..u guys have experienced this asam garam in medical profession right?

u guys have opinion which uni/country provides excellent training for budding doctors? like how is the quality of IPTA grad med students compared to IPTS?

i'm in dilemma..If I don't get accepted into local IPTA (I applied for UM), then which IPTS should i enroll? Other choice, how about UK? I heard many doctors complain about the incompetency of UK grad med students... -.-

oh yea, i dont want to hear that 'it depends on the individual, not the uni he/she graduated from'. I heard it 109497381x
Noel94
post Apr 18 2012, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(podrunner @ Apr 18 2012, 06:59 PM)
Pray tell, what were the complaints? And you heard correctly, that it's UK, yes?
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that they lack the necessary practical skill like taking patient's blood. What I heard from people.So, they replied they were never asked to carry out such procedure back in UK. So is this a skill that only were only taught to nurses.?
Exactly --> UK. Why? U studying in UK?
No, you see. I find it odd why prestigious medical schools in UK produced such mediocre doctors.

Share your opinion please. rolleyes.gif


Added on April 18, 2012, 9:22 pm
QUOTE(onelove89 @ Apr 18 2012, 07:54 PM)
I'm pretty sure the standards are there, and it should be much better than msia.

the 2nd bold statement is true to some extent. The individual has to play his/her part in active learning and being enthusiastic. But lecturers and clinicians are VERY VERY important. I've learnt so so much in my 8 weeks of general med rotation. So long your enthusiastic and keep asking questions and don't be shy, you'll learn heaps. Our education system encouraged us to be spoon fed and accept whatever was given to us. That's really not the ideal way to learn.

so, back to the topic. have you done your tertiary education ie STPM/A level/ IB/ matrik/ Pre-U/ AUSMAT/ etc? If so, which one? if you're competent (in money as well), head overseas. I didn't regret doing so. If not, get into IPTA. Or at least one of the better established med unis in msia eg monash, imu.
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so better off oversea, eh? Can we can adapt easily once we do our internship in malaysia? hmm.gif

This post has been edited by Noel94: Apr 18 2012, 09:22 PM
Noel94
post Apr 18 2012, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(tqeh @ Apr 18 2012, 09:29 PM)
You gotta be joking if UK is producing  mediocre doctors. Being competent to take blood does not equate to being a good doctor. Any human being, also can take blood after a short 5 days course. urgh.

And since when a doctor's job is to take soo muchhh bloooodddd. There are much more things to do than taking bloods, unless they are urgent.
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imagining myself as a doc not being able to draw blood more than 5 times already just bcause that patient's vein is hard to locate. then nurse got annoyed and had to barge in and manage to do it in 1 successful attempt. well, gotta face the humiliation wub.gif
Noel94
post Apr 18 2012, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(podrunner @ Apr 18 2012, 10:00 PM)
Or maybe, just maybe they said UKraine, and you heard UK, or they were pronoucing UKraine wrong (raine being silent) deliberately.  tongue.gif
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how did it enter your mind it might be Ukraine?
Noel94
post Apr 18 2012, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(tqeh @ Apr 18 2012, 10:03 PM)
It should be the other way round. The nurse should have done it before bugging you to take bloods!!!
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so u never see a doc draws blood?
Noel94
post Apr 18 2012, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(podrunner @ Apr 18 2012, 10:07 PM)
How did it NOT enter your mind it might be Ukraine? Perhaps you have not read the threads covering russian medical degrees.
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ohhhhh I heard a lot about that escpecially Russia. My friend who's into medicine avoids Russia at all cost.
That was exactly why I was testing you whether this is proven true or not. I take it as proven valid then. wink.gif So the russia degree isnt recognised anymore ? in MY

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