QUOTE(podrunner @ Jan 3 2010, 06:08 PM)
Hello all, stumbled into this forum from a google link. Am actually enquiring on behalf of my son who's doing his SPM this year, and is currently keen on pursuing medicine.
1) We are considering Russia, as the fees are more affordable. Which of the russian universities are more reputable? I understand none of the russian medical degrees are recognised by SMC currently.
2) How difficult is it to apply to NUS medical program? Apart from A levels (which I am assuming he will have to ace through), what other pre-requisites are there?
Thank you in advance.
I am in Russia. The popular 3 Choices would be
Moscow Medical Academy I M Sechenov
Pros: The russian batch of students are quality students provided that its not the clubbing party type. Malaysian students go there because of false assumption of its the 2nd ranking medical university in the world. "Perhaps it can be, but If so its for the russian medium"
Cons: Wake up at 5am daily travel around metro, buses. High cost of living "after tokyo". Hostel management is a mess. U are not guarenteed to stay back in the same hostel each year. Students studying here have the worst russian. "I know they think the language is unimportant after u graduate but oh well" and skinhead/beaten up problems are the most frequent compared to other places.
Moscow is another country - general consensus of russians.
Nizhny Novgorod State Medical Academy - I am here so I can further elaborate
Pros: lovely. Serene and conducive for study. Hostel is like hotel and its reasonably priced "even though rises each year at rate of USD 350 - USD 700 annually". You can earn single room as you become a senior. In moscow and volgograd its 3 per room. Not that crowded, russians here are not as fancy and as fashion as in moscow.
Not expensive. Teachers mostly are good, become even better and have very good english as you go through to clinical years. Even Some are sent to malaysia to teach, for example my anatomy teacher "a neurosurgeon". Physiology teacher is researching on nerve stem cells and if she succeeds, nobel prize awaits her for alzheimer/Parkinson's disease. Her lab is awesome.
Cons: coldest amongst all choices. 400km Northeast of Moscow, when moscow is at 0 degrees here is -10 to -15. But ppl adapt well. so it shouldnt be a problem I have no regrets coming here!
Volgograd State Medical University
Pros: Russians here are the most friendly. Formerly known as stalingrad, city is cleaner than moscow. Students here study very well too. But boring life. Not much to see. In nizhny we get to nearby city Kazan, or a train 5 hours to moscow during winter break.
Cons: Strict hostel rules. Be a guai kia here or u get warnings. Far from Moscow. 4th year onwards you have to study your clinical years in full Russian. Russian speaking here is generally the best because of this.
u can choose Kursk or RSMU too - but not very favourable as both conducts in Full Rus at clinical years and I never heard much of them.
All in all, doesnt matter where you study, its YOURSELF that study for your own knowledge and to serve the community. Its not like primary school where you have tuition and teachers spoon fed you. With that mentality you never get far no matter where you placed at - be it PMC ireland or Monash Aus. and most important of all, he must have self discipline.
QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Jan 8 2010, 03:25 PM)
Probably the good ones stayed back in Indonesia and the lousy ones come here. Just like there are some lousy ones that is not good enough for our local public universities going to Russia instead.
Thats a public general opinion. It is very unfair and biased. Because they are private students and may not study well. Party life is there. But it accounts only for 35% of the students who mix with Africans n Mauritius people. Take the recent JPA batches that just graduate, and the students here are better.
and FYI, had the government provide more quota to Chinese ppl, and not to feed bumis so much, We wont have this problem n also braindrain. and not all parents are businessman/CEO, they are really trying to make ends meet and sending their children even to Russia is considered a blessing. Afterall if the children is a disciplined obedient one, he can be among the creme de la creme with english irish contemporaries.
On and off, Mara students here lead a luxurious lifestyle. USD 500 a month, buy this jacket and that jacket and etc. This is how the bumi spend their money - our parents income tax money. on top of all, they dont need to serve government if they pay a minimal lumpsum of 50k RM after graduate.
QUOTE(tailangong @ Jan 18 2010, 01:26 AM)
u all good lar...jadi doc
salary sure high! i envy

IMO This person should not become a doctor in the first place.
This post has been edited by Jedi: Jan 21 2010, 02:39 AM