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post Aug 30 2009, 10:04 PM, updated 17y ago

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Hewitt Associates and its partners congratulates the Hewitt Best Employers in Malaysia 2009. Results were published in The Edge and The Edge Financial Daily on April 3, 2009.

The Judges selected 10 Hewitt Best Employers in Malaysia 2009. The results are presented in ranked order:

Rank Organization
1 The Ritz-Carlton, Kuala Lumpur
2 American Express (Malaysia) Sdn Bhd
3 Four Seasons Resort Langkawi, Malaysia
4 Federal Express Services (M) Sdn Bhd
5 Agilent Technologies
6 S P Setia Berhad
7 Hilton Kuala Lumpur
8 Intel Technology Sdn Bhd
9 Golden Arches Restaurants Sdn Bhd
10 Telekom Malaysia Berhad

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Anyone can justify why company like MAS , Sime Darby, PBB, or Maxis or Citibank not in the list ?
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post Aug 30 2009, 10:07 PM

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they should create one list for Top Ten Worst Employer .... LoL
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post Aug 30 2009, 10:17 PM

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top ten worst employer? i think that is even harder to judge. basically most company here fall under that category.. lol
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post Aug 30 2009, 10:18 PM

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Telekom Malaysia?? best employer with worst quality of services??

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post Aug 31 2009, 12:21 AM

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I used to work in 1 of the company up there. Every year when the evaluation time comes for rating the company, they will tell us our evaluation is very important until it will affect your bonus. Haha that's how you will get great rating!~
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Shell & Petronas not in?? Weird.. :erm:
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post Aug 31 2009, 12:50 AM

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QUOTE(azurebluesky @ Aug 30 2009, 10:04 PM)

Anyone can justify why company like MAS , Sime Darby, PBB, or Maxis or Citibank not in the list ?
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It's a big battleground there in PBB, Maxis, Citibank and noticed that DiGi is no longer in the list as well?

When I say big battle ground, I mean big politics involved among the staffs for survival.
It's a jungle in there.

I do agree that Intel, TM, SP Setia and FedEx are up there. Staffs are less pressured, allowed to do freelance after working hours and good working environment.

That's why people should avoid the telecoms industry if possible in Malaysia. It's a good industry with very stable income such as O&G but due to the stiff competition, lots of politics and race wars in there.No kidding.
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post Aug 31 2009, 12:58 AM

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hi all
so what the best way to race in the political company??

just do what is right
and defend yourself when someone try to put the blame on u??
appreciate if u all got good tips especially when u on top management
how do you secure your good position well
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post Aug 31 2009, 01:25 AM

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QUOTE(soulmad @ Aug 31 2009, 12:58 AM)
hi all
so what the best way to race in the political company??

just do what is right
and defend yourself when someone try to put the blame on u??
appreciate if u all got good tips especially when u on top management
how do you secure your good position well
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No one lasts in such companies.You downplay others, the cycle repeats itself and ends up back on you.

Seen people beat up their managers outside the office before?
You've heard of employees who shot their bosses in the head at point blank?

You bring along your reputation with you when you go to the next company because there will be people who comes from the same industry that will clash again someday.Who knows he may the your boss the next time, and you're finish.

I'll give you a good example of how the environment some of those good companies is like.Take Intel for example, they have some of the best managers around who are talks to their staffs like friends, tolerant to mistakes, respects other peoples ways and practices no prejudice towards others.

Instead you often see the opposite in the worst companies, politics, favouritism, bosses who thinks that they are people's master in command, dictatorship...you can figure out the rest.
This sounds so much like companies like Wipro, Maxis, Citibank, PB Bank and most O&G companies.
You should get enough of hints already what similarities they have.

Bosses who thinks that they can order people around like a dictator and get respect are actually fools.
They don't even know how many people are cursing them behind their backs.If you're not going to get the support of your subordinates, how are you going to get anywhere?
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post Aug 31 2009, 06:55 AM

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Hmm I hope anyone can list 10 worst company here, if any....
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QUOTE(devil_nick87 @ Aug 31 2009, 06:55 AM)
Hmm I hope anyone can list 10 worst company here, if any....
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It'll never happen because if it does, those companies will sue that consultant company for defamation acts.

Like they say we always get to see the good things but the bad side are always hidden.

I'll give you another example:
FYI, there's a clause in Maxis Employment Agreement Letter which states that race politics are not allowed in the company.
This alone already gives you a good picture how politics are played in there.

Go read your employment code of ethics document to see if this exist..
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post Aug 31 2009, 07:23 PM

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haha, BAT before this said they are aiming to be the number one on this year list, looks like a big egg in the face for them. doh.gif
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post Sep 1 2009, 12:27 AM

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Telekom??? Guess they're sacrificing 'customer service' in the name of 'employee job satisfaction'.. LoL!
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post Sep 1 2009, 10:32 AM

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Don't just list the companies but list out the general salary scales too. Why only top 10? List all like the university rankings.
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post Sep 1 2009, 11:00 AM

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best employer doesn't mean salary also high ...
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post Sep 1 2009, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(azurebluesky @ Aug 30 2009, 10:04 PM)
Hewitt Associates and its partners congratulates the Hewitt Best Employers in Malaysia 2009. Results were published in The Edge and The Edge Financial Daily on April 3, 2009.

The Judges selected 10 Hewitt Best Employers in Malaysia 2009. The results are presented in ranked order:

Rank  Organization
1  The Ritz-Carlton, Kuala Lumpur
2  American Express (Malaysia) Sdn Bhd
3  Four Seasons Resort Langkawi, Malaysia
4  Federal Express Services (M) Sdn Bhd
5  Agilent Technologies
6  S P Setia Berhad
7  Hilton Kuala Lumpur
8  Intel Technology Sdn Bhd
9  Golden Arches Restaurants Sdn Bhd
10  Telekom Malaysia Berhad

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Anyone can justify why company like MAS , Sime Darby, PBB, or Maxis or Citibank not in the list ?
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First things first. Were they registered for the selection?

As per requisites: Low turnover rate per annum? Did it yield High Return on Investment (ROI)? What about being assessed based on Return on Equity (ROE)? Does consistently delivering good shareholder value plays a part in evaluating? How about holding the distinction of being with the highest net profit after taxation?

It's ambiguous and is misleading. It could be evaluated and ranked based on a certain sub-set of criteria.

Regards, Joey
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post Sep 1 2009, 12:03 PM

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Anyway, these ranking really subjective, as those benchmark for ranking may favour to some employer but may not be favour for other employer.

Just how you consider a good employer??
-High Salary
-lot of allowance
-lot of benefit
-low job load
-good training
-company trip
-team building
-high standard of working environment
-and etc

Too bad, there is no perfect job for any individual.





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post Sep 1 2009, 12:34 PM

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hahaahahahhaha half of the list if bullshit company...how can they make it into the list wtf
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post Sep 1 2009, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(Joey Christensen @ Sep 1 2009, 11:38 AM)
First things first. Were they registered for the selection?

As per requisites: Low turnover rate per annum? Did it yield High Return on Investment (ROI)? What about being assessed based on Return on Equity (ROE)? Does consistently delivering good shareholder value plays a part in evaluating? How about holding the distinction of being with the highest net profit after taxation?

It's ambiguous and is misleading. It could be evaluated and ranked based on a certain sub-set of criteria.

Regards, Joey
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Hewitt is a HR firm.

Now why... I am wondering... are you raising up questions from an equity investor point of view?

Anyways, it's odd then really popular destinations like professional services firms and O&G/Telco aren't in there. Makes you wonder what are their criteria. Like what most said without knowing what are their ranking model it is virtually pointless to discuss anything.
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post Sep 1 2009, 04:32 PM

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Hewitt Associates? They are a global Human Resources Consulting and Outsourcing Firm.

Like I said it, if they weren't registered, they are not being evaluated. For example: If you are not qualified for the World Cup, meaning to say, you are not in, right?

By raising questions from an equity perspective, one can know how the capital is created for sustainable value for long term basis. (Would you want to work in a soon-to-be-bankrupt company?)

Both public companies and private equity portfolio companies have significant strengths and weaknesses indications. For these indications, it bound to have implications of varying influences on the workforce.

Depending on how you see it. Would you prefer MACRO evaluation overview or MICRO evaluation overview?

Regards, Joey
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post Sep 2 2009, 12:05 AM

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After I read all the writings here. I begin to understand why companies like CT and Max-iss is not in. I understand when once ppl reach a salary of 7k at Maxis it means a dead end. Higher salary is not viable. Dont always get me wrong Ananda Krhis=maxis , anada krhis=mahatir business=maxis.

That is the deal behind, do you see it ? who support Maxis= Mr M. Not Mr A ... tongue.gif rclxms.gif

CT, a good place to apply card but politics is crazy. Expecially the sales team are running each other down

I understand this is a study but not all companies can register. It is not evaluated by the ROI or money the company get from that current year. or how many employees work their ass off for that current year. It is evaluated based on employee satisfaction, transparent and most importantly bring and value your employees no matter good or bad times. Most companies will start to ~goreng their staff in bad times e.g CT ~ good companies will see it as an opportunity to grab expertise from the market force against their competitor or just lower the pay but will not ~goreng their staff during bad times~ this create employee loyalty and goodwill. Thus, satisfaction in job.
I can say most COMPANY EARN A LOT BY EXPLOITING THEIR WORKERS WITH PEANUTS PAY BUT HIGH AND STRESS WORKLOAD.

Mayb cannot jusfity with the happiness and satisifaction, high salary in citi but ppl not happy working there or high turnover ( means something is wrong with the managment or policies set up )

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post Sep 2 2009, 09:54 AM

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High Labour Turnover Rate (HLTR)
Introduction: The ratio, usually expressed as a percentage, of the number of employees leaving an organisation or industry in a stated period to the average number of employees working in that organisation or industry during the period.

An important distinction is made between uncontrollable turnover, as by death, superannuation, or unavoidable redundancy, and controllable turnover. A high rate of controllable voluntary turnover (i.e. by resignation) can be a sign of low job satisfaction in an organisation; a high rate of controllable involuntary turnover (e.g. by dismissal for misconduct or poor performance or by retirement owing to work-related illness) is usually a sign that the organization has graver problems.

Excerpt from Encyclopedia.com

Regards, Joey

p.s: In HRM, a certain minimal percentage of LTR in an organisation or industry is deemed acceptable and/or is viewed as normal ratio.
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p.s: In HRM, a certain minimal percentage of LTR in an organisation or industry is deemed acceptable and/or is viewed as normal ratio.
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What is the % of acceptable LTR in big companies ? I understand jobs like telemarketing high turn over. so what is the number please icon_idea.gif


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QUOTE(Joey Christensen @ Sep 2 2009, 09:54 AM)
High Labour Turnover Rate (HLTR)
Introduction: The ratio, usually expressed as a percentage, of the number of employees leaving an organisation or industry in a stated period to the average number of employees working in that organisation or industry during the period.

An important distinction is made between uncontrollable turnover, as by death, superannuation, or unavoidable redundancy, and controllable turnover. A high rate of controllable voluntary turnover (i.e. by resignation) can be a sign of low job satisfaction in an organisation; a high rate of controllable involuntary turnover (e.g. by dismissal for misconduct or poor performance or by retirement owing to work-related illness) is usually a sign that the organization has graver problems.

Excerpt from Encyclopedia.com

Regards, Joey

p.s: In HRM, a certain minimal percentage of LTR in an organisation or industry is deemed acceptable and/or is viewed as normal ratio.
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post Oct 23 2009, 09:51 AM

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need help here....

i got a offer in SP Setia as a Group Account Executive....
may current job is at WCT as Account Exec... my manager try to retain me and offer the same price as SP Setia... furthermore he promise to promote me as an accountant once i pass my exam.....

which should i choose........

anyone know how SP setia is... good??... is it hard to be promoted in SP Setia???
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