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azuansabri
post Aug 29 2009, 11:10 PM

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Hi all my fellow JCs... I'm new here but I've spend one whole week to read all your posts in last forum... You are all crazy guys coz you can finished 2500 posts in just a couple of months... Kudos to you all... notworthy.gif
I'll try to be active in this forum, but it depends on the speed of my internet connection... rclxub.gif
Actually, I'm still new in collecting jerseys intensively, although my 1st original jersey was bought 13 years ago... So, I'm very happy to share my opinions in original jerseys and I also hope that you guys can help me if I need help regarding this matter... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Aug 30 2009, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(ic3rock @ Aug 30 2009, 08:59 PM)
Saw this guy selling jersey at ebay msia, feel like fake jersey...

http://cgi.ebay.com.my/Original-Manchester...id=p3286.c0.m14
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QUOTE(MaxReddevil @ Aug 30 2009, 09:23 PM)
lol.. Dont simply post here, i think the seller is a LYN member as well... it seems that the jersey he sells is ORI rejected ones  yawn.gif
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Is nike ori rejected jerseys really exist? I don't think so... Correct me if I'm wrong...
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post Aug 30 2009, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(MaxReddevil @ Aug 30 2009, 10:02 PM)
Yeah cos i was asking him about the Manchester United Away jersey 08/09.. And he said that the jersey is made from either portugal/ thailand.. So from that moment onwards, i got serious doubts adi, cos i thought it was suppose to be made in morocco.. correct me if I'm wrong.

Worst case is that he said his one is 100% ori BUT the logo MIGHT not be so nice, his reason : buy in BULK.. lollololo
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The picture from ebay link look similar to this link... Same seller?
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f...0#entry26457828
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post Aug 30 2009, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(ic3rock @ Aug 30 2009, 10:18 PM)
Dont think so le, cause the link i share with u ppl, he/she selling ManUtd 09/10 kit with Rm180 only... hmm.gif
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Hmmm... I'm just curious with the watermarks of the pictures... Look same lor? blink.gif
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post Aug 30 2009, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(ic3rock @ Aug 30 2009, 10:29 PM)
Another 1 who selling "Ori" jersey, who discount Rm100, but only got size M or XL...
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...46952&hl=jersey
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I think this one really selling fake jerseys... Look how he evaded the questions with suspicious answers... hmm.gif
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post Aug 31 2009, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(schmeichel7 @ Aug 31 2009, 02:05 AM)
I won't tolerate my-fjc members selling fake jerseys. I'm already pissed with some members making easy profit by being a middle man selling jerseys or re-selling something that he/she bought from a bulk hosted by the members... We at my-fjc have sense that there are too many members joining in with bad intentions (only for making profit). So to see a member selling fake jersey is the biggest sin of all.
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Selling fake jersey is another thing... But I'm really really pissed off with people selling fake jersey as original... That's cheating guys... vmad.gif
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post Aug 31 2009, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(ReBeLLioN @ Aug 31 2009, 12:47 PM)
the biggest size nike and adidas produce jersey???
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Hmmm... I think 3XL...
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post Aug 31 2009, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(schmeichel7 @ Aug 31 2009, 02:31 PM)
Hahaha..

Jerseyman just found the link to the kitbag sales page (outsize from kitbag) that is selling 5XL, 6XL, 7XL and 8XL sizes hahaha:

http://www.kitbag.com/stores/kitbag_4_5/sa...=43472&cid=9764

aw13 can try buy one and use it as a blanket... hahahaha... I think this was suppose to be Stamford the mascot's jersey

Actually you can also find the current home kit with the same sizing as above... just enter 'outsize' in the Search field and walla...
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Hahaha... I don't think there are real men who need 8XL shirt except giant...c hmm.gif
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post Aug 31 2009, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(keanzteoh @ Aug 31 2009, 09:22 PM)
I personally know the seller, Offside zone. He does sell fake jerseys and claim as original. He even told me he gonna have Nike and Adidas licence next week/ month. Not sure.

Added on August 31, 2009, 9:23 pm@ Schmikes
He quote me for RM140 last time. Not sure how much he's selling really.
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Actually I was conned RM390 by this seller... I already asked for refund, and he promised for refund, but now he give me no respond... I'm compiling all the proofs before I expose his disgrace behaviour... maybe in a few days because i'm quite bz rite now...
Btw, keanzteoh, is there any chance that u can ask offside_zone to refund my money? thanks...
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post Aug 31 2009, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(schmeichel7 @ Aug 31 2009, 09:59 PM)
WTF..
RM390?!
Can you compile everything and later share with us the photos of the jerseys he sold to you?
I am getting very upset now.
And as what chcher said.. you can take action against him if he still refuses to refund back..
A good lesson to others, please check with the seniors here or myself if you want to be sure that a jersey is really authentic or not. There are good honest sellers in LYN and ebay but then people like this tarnishes the good name of others.
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I will compile everything once i got back my camera from my gf...
Actually, i never knew before that a forum here and also my-fjc that can be resource for original jersey collectors until i was conned. I only knew the existence of this forum after i googled 'what is the difference between original jersey and fake jersey'...
QUOTE(ic3rock @ Aug 31 2009, 10:34 PM)
Maybe this price with NNS printing, dont be sad taiko.  cry.gif
the price is for 3 jerseys, all for MU's last season... i thought he got it cheap since it's already off season & his ebay feedback also look convincing...
QUOTE(zaidizero @ Aug 31 2009, 10:38 PM)
@azuansabri, rm390 is a lot of money, has you file a dispute with ebay or resolution zone in lyn? Hope you can get your money back, any forumer can get this guy info? This guy is a fraudster

zaidi, i haven't file a dispute with ebay becoz i thought i want to 'selesai secara baik'... but as he still don't refund my money, i think it is the time for me to retaliate...
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post Aug 31 2009, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(akkmutd0711 @ Aug 31 2009, 10:55 PM)
Don't wait until the dateline, act fast since he is not responding at all to you.
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yup... but it's my weakest point actually... i don't like to ask from someone who borrowed my money although i will remember every sen that i borrowed from others... really need to be tough... icon_question.gif
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post Aug 31 2009, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(nimrod2 @ Aug 31 2009, 11:17 PM)
i think you shouldnt let him get away with him anymore.
no more chances.
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QUOTE(ckimy @ Aug 31 2009, 11:24 PM)
must get it back asap, bro...
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QUOTE(zaidizero @ Aug 31 2009, 11:42 PM)
yes, I agree dont wait for too long, maybe you should threaten him to refund
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thanks... i will force him and i hope i will get the money by this week...
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post Sep 1 2009, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(schmeichel7 @ Aug 31 2009, 11:53 PM)
azuan,
Try to talk nicely to the seller and ask him to refund you. If he doesn't want to, you can talk to chcher and see what legal actions you can consider.
Hope that you can settle this 'secara baik'. I don't like confrontations as well..
And for the ebay purchase, we have 45 days limit before we can raise dispute. But I warn you, raising a dispute in ebay via paypal might not help because the geniuses at paypal for some reason still needs written endorsement proof from liable sources like Nike or Adidas to confirm that they are fake. I tried that and went to Nike Sales HQ office at The Curve, but it is pointless because they won't help because it was bought from ebay.
Again guys.... next time, if you are scared a jersey is fake or not, ask in this thread. We have experts around like chcher, pyroboy1911 and also members like akkmutd0711 or others to help... If jerseyman is not around.
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Thanks bro...
I really would like to settle this case nicely, that's why i don't disclose this matter earlier... hope can get the refund by this week... that's my dateline for him...
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post Sep 1 2009, 12:14 AM

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QUOTE(nimrod2 @ Sep 1 2009, 12:06 AM)
haha yeah just wondering how come see thru so easily.
his track record seems quite good rite?
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i was cheated by his positive feedbacks... maybe all of his previous buyers are beginners, don't know how to detect fake jersey, and then just leave positive feedback... i'm beginner too but the jerseys that he sold to me are obviously fake and i knew it straight away after i opened the parcel... and buying 3 jerseys in one order is actually blessing in disguise because i can compare the tags attached... how can 3 different jerseys got same tags. same product codes, same color codes and same serial numbers?


Added on September 1, 2009, 12:19 am
QUOTE(nimrod2 @ Sep 1 2009, 12:11 AM)
give ppl too much chance, they will take advantage of you.

that 390 is one jersey only?
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RM390 is for 3 Manchester United jerseys for 07/09 home, 08/09 away and 08/09 3rd kits...

This post has been edited by azuansabri: Sep 1 2009, 12:19 AM
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post Sep 1 2009, 01:20 AM

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QUOTE(longamwai @ Sep 1 2009, 01:00 AM)
bro azuansabri...i haf not seen u b4 and u just recently joined rite...are u sure im the one who ripped u off?...i just put that page...just for ppl to refer that person...he sells in all sizes he claimed....and i seriously told him i would not put up fake products for sale...he promised me not...cos he said he is seriously venturing original jerseys...he said i just put up his number thr for reference only...im not even selling at all!! im not even taking commission for god's sake...he ask me for help....and as i noe....fakes only come in M and XL....he put M-XL for sale....

bro azuansabri im sorry for wat happened to u...but could u make sure who ripped u off 1st..
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Hi longamwai... could u check all my previous posts again? did i ever mentioned that you are the one who sold the fake jerseys to me? never right? the seller who sold the jersey to is an ebay seller with the nickname offside_zone... and i only referred the pictures in your classified are similar from the ebay seller who conned me... and all your pictures got offside_zone watermarks on them. if you happened to know this offside_zone man personally, can you advise him to refund my money?

p/s: BTW, I'm curious why you haven't answer all the questions by the people who interested with your jerseys in your classified since almost 3 months ago? and please don't underestimate me just because i just joined this forum recently...
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post Sep 1 2009, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(chcher @ Sep 1 2009, 01:24 AM)
bro, how can azuansabri be faulted as a buyer?
and based on the feedback from so many others, not just azuansabri alone, they have confirmation from your fren that the kits were originals even though they are clearly not.
and i think u have been in the forum long enough to know that fakes are getting better by the day and the "M and XL" only fakes, though still in existance, are no longer the only type of fakes (they were not the only ones to begin with). And looking at the price, one who is into collecting jersey would have suspected, and would check before endorsing or "putting up for reference".
i have seen ur link of ur classified ad posted in this forum and though u claim to put for ur fren, u cannot deny that all deals eminating from there may go through u! PM goes to u, messages go to u! u have to be responsible for ur posts, and whatever between u and ur fren is your responsibility as well. ur fren is answerable to u, u r answerable to the buyers on the forum. in the event of criminal investigation, you will be in the place of an accomplice to a crime which is punishable normally as what the offender would be sentenced anyway.
I am sad it has come to this, but am glad you still show up to put up your case. I hope you can help azuansabri with his claims against your fren and get him the refund since you have contact with your fren.
alterntively, i am really considering assisting him in lodging a police report on the matter as this has come to affect credibility of JCs here as well as at the other forum.
cheers.

POST: i see azuansabri has cleared the air that u were not (maybe) the one he bought from. glad for that. but still if u r really repentous u should remove ur classified or clarify the same instead of leaving it there and facilitating / luring more possible victims.
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Thanks bro... I would seek your help if offside_zone still doesn't refund my money by this week.

QUOTE(MaxReddevil @ Sep 1 2009, 08:55 AM)
lol.. it was me la bro, i was the one who asked for your help  nod.gif
Btw azuansabri, if u read the feedbacks from the ebay page offside zone, the first few feedbacks are mostly from the same customers, only recently there are new buyers... maybe i could ask redyap as he is one of the recent buyer.. thumbup.gif I think redyap did not realize either whether his jersey is ori or not.. lol
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my bad... i was very very careless... and that was my 1st experience with ebay actually... but there still many honest ebay sellers out there... i got no problem with them except this offside _zone guy...
QUOTE(redyap @ Sep 1 2009, 09:32 AM)
Yaya...i just realize that i might be conned too!!
BUt i have been informed d.....so i will re-check my stuff when i back to KL and let all the member here to know the truth...........
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hmm.gif U better check the authenticity of your jersey...
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post Sep 1 2009, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(schmeichel7 @ Sep 1 2009, 03:17 PM)
longamwai and azuansabri.
Please take this discussion offline via pm. I don't want this thread be tainted anymore with the issue again.
Everyone should stick back to 'jersey talk'.
Thank you.
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ok, bro... i'm just about to do that actually... 'sedang mengarang'... thanks...
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post Sep 1 2009, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(longamwai @ Sep 1 2009, 03:54 PM)
okay guys this is the last thing i want to add...Azuansabri bought the jerseys...from....EBAY DIRECTLY!!...he didn't even refer me 1st...those who wanted to buy thru me....i haf replied them and no 1 bought...so no 1 was conned from my classified...so pls do not taint my name here thank you,
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Sorry jerseyman... I have to clarify a few things here to all forum member... Maybe some people here got misunderstood with what happened to me. I never said I bought the jersey through longamwai. Yes, i bought the jersey directly from ebay, from seller named offside_zone.

From the beginning, i was very reluctant to expose my experience here. I planned to just pm the jerseyman what happened... But when someone in this forum asked about ebay link (offside_zone's jersey), i thought it was my responsibility to say that offside_zone sells fake jersey as i don't want anybody to face the experience like i'm having right now.

I'm very very sorry to all of you if what i've done had created chaos @ confrontation in in this forum. sad.gif

p/s: I'm settling this case with offside_zone nicely now. Hope I will get my money back... nod.gif

This post has been edited by azuansabri: Sep 1 2009, 04:28 PM
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post Sep 1 2009, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(ic3rock @ Sep 1 2009, 05:01 PM)
Besides, wanna to ask u guys, did u ppl use the plastic bag for cover clothes on ur jersey or just direct put into wadrobe?
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i just direct put my jerseys into the wardrobe... is it better if we use the plastic cover? where can we get it? mannequin shops at jalan kenanga @ san peng sell it or not?
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post Sep 1 2009, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(zaidizero @ Sep 1 2009, 07:44 PM)
Dobi shop are selling the plastic bag
around 50sen per piece
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hmmm... good info... thanks...
QUOTE(ic3rock @ Sep 1 2009, 08:11 PM)
Mine right now also direct put inside wardrobe, just wonder izzit use the plastic cover will better? Just to protect jersey also, there got sell anot i not sure, but i think the shop who sell plastic should got.
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yeah... need somebody expert in preserving shirts to give his view...

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