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Science is it possible make a smaller joule to create, a bigger joule?

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kekacang
post Sep 14 2009, 11:57 AM

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The only possible way to get smaller joule to create bigger joule is to absorb stray energy in the ambient, including widely known wireless energy.

There is no such way to create something from nothing. That is the law. If somebody said had that it can be done, it was a lie.

If we talk about the solar energy, firstly we get it from the sun. That energy could not be used directly.

And then, in what form you want to use that energy, electrical?

If yes, we use a solar panel and convert the solar energy to electrical currents.

And then, the current was used to boil the water.

In these processes, we could loss some energy in the conversion process since the system itself was not really effective 100%.

When we get "a" amount of solar energy, we could get "b" maximum amount of electrical currents.

so, a ---> b, so at least we could get "b", we could not get more than "b". Why, huh?

Because "maths formula" is a perfect tool for conversion, its like, 3 = 2 + 1. There is no perfect thing in this world. Efficiency will make this formula, 3 = 2 + 1, to (less than or equal to 3) = 2 + 1.

if somebody said, uh, we can get more than that. Then i would ask, where the energy comes from. From heaven? You could NOT simply talk is it possible make a "smaller joule" to create "bigger joule". It was impossible and reckless.

Now days, we only make energy conversions, not energy creations.


"The only possible way to get smaller joule to create bigger joule is to absorb stray energy in the ambient, including widely known wireless energy."

This is a not a creation sir, you just absorb and store the energy. Wireless technology, loss more energy because of noise and interference. Wireless provides waves that simply goes everywhere they want.


"Power= voltage X current"

Vs Ip Ns
--- = --- = ---
Vp Is Np

This formula is considered ideal. But, you must know that flux leakage that happens and many things.


Thats true, P = V x I, but this must obey V = I x R. When we use coils inside transformer, we use it as Z (impedance).

so, V = I x Z,
P = (I^2) x Z

Z also consists imaginary number based on the coils. Complex numbers.





kekacang
post Sep 15 2009, 02:11 PM

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The answer is simple. We "must" obey the law. That's why is was called as a law.

This is not the story of the "creativity" itself, but, the "creativity" could not be applied to that law.

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Therefore i can only say if the system manage to absorb energy from embient, then there will be an illusion that some one use smaller joule to get bigger joule.


Thats mean that "illusions" bring external joule to that smaller joule.

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I just hope some one when read a statement, be more critical. Most importantly, be more creative, not just simply reject some idea base on common sense.



This kind of thinking could not apply, so, why giving idea (theory) that could not apply to that laws that already proven? If you can broke it, prove it. If you learn to some extent possible, then, you will know, there is not answer why we must obey the law. Why, because we are no god.


So, I will show you. Imagine you want to create a new world. Example, A second earth.

Where you will get the ingredients.

Take your sand from moon, mars, or anywhere, but you will not creating your sand without nothing. That's how the law works. No sand without changing anything, um... we call that equivalent trade.

Then, second example.

Burn your trash. It would at least converted to carbon, carbon dioxide, and anything. But you couldn't make it vanish, pooooosh without traces. Can you make it happen? And at least you must put it somewhere.

This is not about common sense. If we show you the details, it never fits this forum, where the answer will lead you to nowhere.


kekacang
post Sep 30 2009, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(~lynn~ @ Sep 30 2009, 03:37 PM)
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come on, any person with basic knowledge in physics would know any process would produce less energy than its input.
Losses due to stray capacitance, to environment.

i dunno, i just find it very hard to accept it.

However, that being said, i've seen a Master's Project which able to produce 1000V with just 5V input.
I don't know how they did it. When i asked they just replied they spent alot of effort in it, can't just tell out like that
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That's sucks, where a master graduate couldn't tell whats he doing.

this is normal, but take a look first. the question is how many ampere is generated. I also could do that, by using a DC transformer.


 

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