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Science is it possible make a smaller joule to create, a bigger joule?

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post Sep 3 2009, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(C-Note @ Aug 31 2009, 10:18 PM)
perfect quintessence of asian mentality. Knowing does not equate to comprehending. evryone thinks so highly of oneself. no wonder the word creations/breakthroughs never revolved around nerdy,arrogant asians
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It's already mentioned several times here that energy cannot be destroyed or created. Power is basically the rate at which energy is produced/consumed. You transformer doesn't add additional energy into the system, how do you expect the power output to increase?
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post Sep 14 2009, 07:41 AM

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QUOTE(VA1701wb @ Sep 12 2009, 11:36 PM)
Transformer is simply a device that transform voltage by means of magnetic field induction. When a high voltage is produce from low voltage, it is equivalent to reduction of current so as to comply with the facts that energy is always conserved. In reality, energy seems not conserved or loss because there is always a leakage path for an energy to escape/leave of the system. As for transformer is concerned, losses due to leakage of magnetic field and also due to the winding resistance.

As for make a smaller joule to create, a bigger joule, it can only be achieve as long as the principle of energy conservation is obeyed. For example, those solar water heater manage to use less electric energy to heat up more water by absorbing heat from the sun and also environment. The only possible way to get smaller joule to create bigger joule is to absorb stray energy in the ambient, including widely known wireless energy.
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There's no way to create additional energy from nothing. In your example of a solar heater, you are using the solar power along with the electrical power to heat up water. The total power output of the heater will not exceed the power provided by the sun and the electrical outlet. The only thing that this setup can reduce is the amount of electricity used in heating the water. So how can you say that you can get additional energy from a fixed amount of energy? You are excluding the secondary energy source(solar energy) from the equation when calculating the total power provided to your water heating system.
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post Sep 15 2009, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(VA1701wb @ Sep 15 2009, 11:16 AM)
I thought i have write very clear that energy in overall has yet to be conversed according to the law. My example of creating bigger joule from smaller joule is just an illustration how he use less electrical energy to get more thermal heat throught absorbtion of heat from ambient. In fact, there is no statement in "make a smaller joule to create, a bigger joule" says that no external energy can be absorb. Therefore i can only say if the system manage to absorb energy from embient, then there will be an illusion that some one use smaller joule to get bigger joule. However, the additional joule is the amount of heat absorb from environment.
I just hope some one when  read a statement, be more critical. Most importantly, be more creative, not just simply reject some idea base on common sense.
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Being creative as in treating the incomplete truths as the whole truth? The way you are putting it implies that the energy absorbed from the environment doesn't count as a source of energy and should be ignored when comparing the total energy output of the system with the energy provided to the system.
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post Oct 1 2009, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(mumeichan @ Oct 1 2009, 07:09 AM)
Many of you here are laughing your ass off at the TS question and giving him a big NO. I think you all are still stuck wil elementary physics.

Of course you all know the that according to the first law of thermodynamics, the quantity of energy in the whole universe is constant. No matter how the form of energy changes, the total amount when measured in joules is the same.

However, there have been a few phenomenas that seem to violate the first law of termodynamics.  I can't remember those phenomenas anymore but I did have a discussion about it with a friend in uni before. Of course, until now we don't understand the phenomena yet nor are we able to replicate it. But in the future maybe the first law of termodynamics will be proven wrong. Scientist are interested in these phenomenas as if we can reproduce them it would mean an infinite source of energy.
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Unless you can specify these phenomenons, your entire post is equivalent to one of those stories that you hear from a friend's uncle's relative. It is not relevant since it practically says nothing.

It is not scientific since you say that it cannot be replicated. Look at cold fusion, an experiment that could not be replicated successfully. If you can't cause a phenomenon to occurs in a reliable and measurable manner, good luck in having your hypothesis accepted by the scientific community.

Scientific laws will always change when a better one is found. You just have to prove it scientifically for that to happen.
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post Oct 1 2009, 08:31 PM

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The problem is that you can't even name these so called phenomenons.

How is someone supposed to discuss something when you are the only one who knows something about it?

It should at least have a name even if it hasn't been proven yet. Until you name these so called phenomenons, it's no different from a friend's uncle's relative's type story.

 

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