i think not. If possible try transfer a hdd to another console and test it out first.

You can always dl the content back for what you have paid for.

The content I don't think tied to the console but to your GT.

Shit my Xbox 360 got 3rod for the 4th time. Haih.

Going to exam soon so maybe the 3rod come want me to concentrate on my exam. LOL.

I think won't be playing for while. Lazy to do the x-clamp again.

This post has been edited by MmxZero: May 11 2008, 08:59 PM

well, I just got 4 time of 3rod. Console still working. Already more then 1 year.

Well, I'm going to get the jasper set.

I doubt is 3rod proof. The only way to solve 3rod is to redesign the motherboard. Which this will happend on the vallaha set.

Is in August but still yet to be confirmed.

It's up to you.

In my opinion, for online gaming, Xbox is the best. PS3 is for playing single player game.

I own both console and my xbox is the 2nd ( the 1st xbox the lens was worn out ) and it's already 3rod for 4 times after a year +. I use x-clamp method and it's stil working. For how long more I dunno.

Even now, my disc tray when i close it, it won't close. I had to push it in order to close.

I'll be getting the jasper set.

So your choice is up to you and nonoe here is going to convience you.

Go wave? Because I was testing your powersupply and all i got 3rod because my vga cable was lose. But I tried playing with it and I had no problem. I tested it with gears of war

Valhalla won't have 3rod ( if really does work ) because they are going to change the motherboard because the CPU and GPU are combine. So the design of the motherboard have changed

Thats why I say If does works

Watever tech also still got to follow the rule of physics. When ever current flows, there will be heat generated.


Then we can make video call " Ways to destroy Xbox 360 "

Then cineleisure can play Dead Rising?

They have to if not it's a pointless to invest on something that in the end will give you 3rod back.

No fool will invest millions of $$$ researching in something which in the end will give the same result.

Is your job is biz field?

Let's use life cycle costing. When the product mature, new design will need to take place in order to boost the sale. at the same time it's also cutting cost. At this stage, your cost should be already low while your sales are still constant.

When it starts to decline, the new design will come it to boost the sale in order to cover up the cost left which already inccured in the project.

Since the jasper set is shrinking the CPU & GPU to 65nm which will lower their cost. But valhala it's a new type which combine CPU and GPU. They first had to incurred cost in order to reasearch the design cost for the motherboard and whether they will solve 3rod. 2ndly the will still need to incurred cost to do research on th market whether customer will still want to but their new type of design.

Since it's new design, I doubt it will be cheap in the 1st place because it's a new technology and you are ahead in the market.

Overall, they still need to look at customer POV. a redesign in a product it's always to boost sale and to cover up cost. The only way by making the sale higher it's solving the 3rod issue which every customer POV wants.

I agree. But for M$, they still look into biz prospective. Refer to Life Cycle costing, Learning curve effect, and target costing.

In order to develop this 2 chip combine together, they still need to do research. This reasearch cost is a fix cost and a initial cost. Once the product starts to mature, learning cuve effect has been fully taken place which iswhy their cost have been gone down. And before then end of product, design cost to reduce the cost even more and boost sale in order to cover up the whole total life of the product cost.

My design cost means not only design but all other cost. Design cost in manfacturing biz field comprise a lot of cost in oder to find a way to attract customer to buy and reduce cost even more. So hope you get what i mean by design cost.

But when the product is introduce, a lot of cost have to be inccured in order just to boost sale. Thats why before the end of the life of product, MS had to cover up all the initial cost of the project. So by even researching into the CPU and GPU combine, they have to over up this cost which is a lot of cost just to cover up in this short period of time.

The problem that MS had 3rod because they forgot to do TQM ( total quality management ). They wanted to beat Sony on order to capture a larger market share. Then when Sony PS3 comes in, MS had already have a larger standing ground in the market. For Japanese, TQM has always been the priority ( tqm was invented by japanese anyway ), that's why Ps3 had no such thing as 3rod problem. But i'm not saying that PS3 is perfet.

So hope to clarify my few points.

LOL Bem. Join the club already.

So sent to SG for warranty? Dunno if you get back will be a falcon set or not.

Depends on the console. Some of us only lasted more then 1 year. But most of us lasted like 6 to 12 month.

X-clamp is just a temporary solution and it will never last for that long. It depends on your console condition.


LOL.

Wait I join you guys also.

I'll be getting a jasper for gears 2


You post in the wrong section. Post in the buyer guide.

Malaysia is not official launch. We all use NTSC.

Which region you want to buy is up to you. I suggest depends on where you stay most of the time.

3rod happens depends on your console. 3rod will happen for sure.

Pirated are not allow to discuss in this forum. I suggest going for orignal because you will miss out all the fun on XBL

i still think that how frequent a person play and how long a day. I notice that some people hardly play, the console laster like more then 1 year. Well, this is just my POV

X-clamp is a temporary solution of solving overheating console. Most of the 3rod problem can be solve using X-clamp. It still depends on what error code you will get and is based on your luck.

The cost is RM100 most. Even if you want to do it yourself, buying all the parts and the equipment to do it will cost almost RM90.

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The cost is RM100 most. Even if you want to do it yourself, buying all the parts and the equipment to do it will cost almost RM90.

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My error code is 0102... and the funny part is that i get electric shock when i touch the hdd. Tested with an electrical test pen, and amazingly, the test pen light went on........ so i think my console don't need x-clamp..... but i could be wrong...

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0102 is a still and unkonw problem because it could be either CPU / GPU / ram or other problem. Doing X-clamp might solve the problem. But the chances are like in 50% or higher.

Just get both

This is my 2nd console ( 1st died because the lens died ) and lasted for a year already and got 3rod 4 times already.

So getting a jasper set soon.

Also got a ps3. To me Ps3 is good for playing single player game but Xbox is fun for online gaming.

Depends on what code you get and luck.

Just got 3rod again. 5th time already. Just because I played my PS3 whole day and the 3rod came. Had to overheat it again.

I think my Xbox gone. Got 1rod. E73. Haih. 3rod already 6 times and now final.

E73: General Hardware Error: Ethernet port... this error is caused by a problem with the Ethernet port.

Dunno can save or not

So can't be rescue?

Well it was working fine after the 6th time 3rod since i got to redo the xclamp. Played for 2 hour and stop. Then after 3 hours or cooldown tried and it died.

This post has been edited by MmxZero: Jun 23 2008, 02:00 AM

I manage to revive my console but i think my ana chip is gone.

Now my games is like super bright. Like halo.

The main menu background can't be seen but it's super bright.

This post has been edited by MmxZero: Jun 23 2008, 08:13 AM

well still can use to stream my dramas

Just in time for Gears 2

i gave up on fixing it, later sending it to bernard and see he can fix it or not. I don't have the proper tool for it. Is the gpu and the ana chip problem.