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Philightsophy
post Oct 1 2009, 04:52 PM

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I just want to share some thought I have about the situation with 47s.
I do not know what's happening between 47s and ET but I am rather surprised that 47s mentioned this:

"We regret to inform you that due to many serious problems (in design, performance, and business aspects) we have decided to discontinue carrying Eagletac products."

Design is rather subjective but I wonder that is a serious design problem?
I don't know of any serious performance issues with ET. Maybe someone can share that?
As far as I know when working with ET, their customer support has been fair and seems to favor the customer, and because of that I am able to provide such fair service in this region. ET didn't cheat me of my money, items, etc. They didn't promise something and break them in my experience.
To me, it looks like an all-out bad-mouthing at ET and this is not the first time 47s has done so. Is this a professional way of doing business? What was mentioned on EagleTac-Store will taint ET as a business entity and possibly even more.
I am not anti-47s or hold a grudge against it, but I am rather disappointed with how 47s handled this matter. 47s does not need to bad-mouth ET, instead a simple "due to irreconcilable issues/difference" will do.

PS: In my experience so far, 100% or more profit margin is very difficult due to shipping and packaging, tax and overheads.
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post Oct 1 2009, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(justin78 @ Oct 1 2009, 05:09 PM)
What I think is the 47 got some "business aspects" with ET rather than all the other reasons they gave.  doh.gif
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That's true too.
I am also speculating about other 'matters' too, since 47s now sells their own brand of flashlights hmm.gif
Hopefully such bad-mouthing won't happen again.
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post Oct 1 2009, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(damonlbs @ Oct 1 2009, 05:27 PM)
Philightsophy

are you going to open a thread for the Lumens Factory ?
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Hi damonlbs,

I will open a thread soon. I will update my website too.
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post Oct 1 2009, 11:00 PM

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Hi guys,
If there's a design problem with ET (no models were specified by 47s), then a lot of buyers will be vocal regarding this design problem.

Hi pseudoblue,
I do not understand about the ET bezel exposing the LED, could you help clarify more on this?
ET over-drives the LED but not till a critical scenario. Even Quarks are over-driven in turbo mode (correct me if I am wrong), more so than ET '100' models. If there are issues of heat or reduced lifespan, there should be news of it now. As far as I know, the heatsinking of ET lights has been sufficient so far to allow constant output from the light.
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post Oct 1 2009, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(RookieDaddy @ Oct 1 2009, 11:24 PM)
my precious little one...
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isn't she such a beauty... so sexy... ooooo...  wub.gif
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Looking hot biggrin.gif
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post Oct 2 2009, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(pseudoblue @ Oct 2 2009, 12:11 AM)
Yea, the vocal problem already started but with no solid factual references.

Courtesy of Selfbuilt's pic below. If any user were to open the head, unintentional damage might happen from users who don't take care? unsure.gif Anyway, this was just my assumptions, let's not hover over this so much yea. I did not doubt ET's design, I don't even feel qualified to, remember I was relating more to user issue.
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And yea, the Quark CR123^2 seemed overdriven on turbo (990ma) if I based on the datasheet, but there alot of other factors, and considering how small the heatsink is and need various cooling sources and methods.


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If I am not mistaken, the Olight M20 also allows the user to open the head and expose the LED, I think they call it 'candle mode'. There are a few lights that allows this exposure too, especially lights with modular components.
If this was a design problem, a related situation is a car bonnet should only be opened by a certified car mechanic since the owner of the car might accidentally damage something in the engine compartment.
I wanted to clarify a few things about ET because over in CPF, there seems to be much anti-ET fire, and most of them are from people that have not even own an ET doh.gif
No offence friend icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Oct 2 2009, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(susuman @ Oct 2 2009, 03:26 PM)
I like if the light have exposed LED, so I could modify/repair it if needed. And ET has a few things i like, especially the RBG KIt I ordered from Philightsophy have all I loved. (Neutra White, filters, support CR123&18650, all reflectors (SMO OP included), diffuser etc etc. and the LOOK is good), so I stick to my order lor. And I could contact Philightsophy if anything goes wrong with the light.  cool2.gif

So Philightsophy, that is why I stick to my order (though that means my wallet have a bigger hole  ohmy.gif ), so have they arrive yet??
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Thanks man.
The stock should arrive next Monday, because there's some holiday going on in Hong Kong now, so there are delays.
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post Oct 4 2009, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(Kyu @ Oct 3 2009, 08:56 PM)
wat is the length of the sp-9 with 2 18650 bat??
and i hate xenon
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The length is 20.5cm. This is the length of SP-9 + 1-cell extender.
Why do you hate Xenon? Hate is a very strong word to use sweat.gif
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post Oct 7 2009, 02:28 PM

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Hi guys,
New shipment of EagleTac flashlights has arrived smile.gif
This includes the neutral white P100 and T100 models smile.gif
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post Oct 9 2009, 01:56 AM

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QUOTE(susuman @ Oct 9 2009, 12:57 AM)
strinq, I kind a like the bezel of your avatar, mind to tell me what is the flashlight uses this bezel?
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But I think the beam shot will be pretty ugly (haha, pretty and ugly can mix) rclxms.gif
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Looks like a Solarforce SS bezel smile.gif
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post Oct 9 2009, 01:14 PM

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Hi guys,

What polkiuj shared is true, regarding ET's past design faults, and it is fortunate that ET managed to fix most of it (strobe is too easily accessed though). Later batches of the '10' models has a redesigned head, which will hold and protect the lens better (like the model polkiuj has tongue.gif )
The anodizing on the '100' seems to be better on the new batches, but I still can't comment how it will hold up. I do know that anodizing on aggressive knurlings seems to be a bit weaker due to very small contact point for the anodizing to bond to the light. Either ways, keeping my fingers crossed on this smile.gif
For ET lights, the use of button top cells is required due to a physical reverse polarity ring.

PS: I feedback good and bad response to ET, including my own opinion. I am still an flashlight enthusiast first brows.gif
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post Oct 9 2009, 03:44 PM

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Hi guys,

I would like to announce that the P100 and T100 EagleTac models are now available from GadgetWorld2U rclxms.gif
For those who are sitting on the fence regarding these models and would like to check them out personally, just head on over to their shop smile.gif
Thank you all and have fun! smile.gif

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post Oct 9 2009, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(susuman @ Oct 9 2009, 05:55 PM)
EagleTac T20C actually almost have this look, if the SS Bezel is longer and sharper. Philightsophy , ET has this optional accessories?
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Ah, tak ada boss brows.gif
I am wondering how these 'killer bezels' pass customs, they look scary and aggressive.
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post Oct 9 2009, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(old newspaper @ Oct 9 2009, 05:25 PM)
woohoo.....just received the SP-6 kit from Philightsophy !  2  thumbup.gif up for the superbly fast shipping it out for me !  rclxms.gif the light is great with LED....but the moment i drop in the xenon module.....hate it....not used to the xenon colour output.....overall the build quality is good except for the thread [ a bit rough tho ]
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Oh, I forgot to mention that you should give the Xenon a try again at night and shine at trees and grasses. Compare the Xenon with a cool white LED and observe the difference smile.gif
Xenon won't be please a "white-wall" hunter, although it is fine with me biggrin.gif
Regarding the threads, yes they can be tight. I recommend cleaning it and relube for better 'feel' brows.gif

This post has been edited by Philightsophy: Oct 9 2009, 09:17 PM
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post Oct 10 2009, 01:49 AM

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QUOTE(susuman @ Oct 10 2009, 12:45 AM)
Philightsophy is right, Xenon is good use for outdoor, in fact I love it using in door too. Haha,  drool.gif you will get use to it, once you realised it is so good outdoor on trees.

I lune it using the Silicon Grease comes with it, it is perfect now, btw, Philightsophy, you sell these Silicone Grease? Looking for good thick Silicon Grease.

And bro Philightsophy, bad news, my son just did a drop test on the T20C2  cry.gif about 3 feet above the marble floor.
Good news is, the light surviced.
Bad news is, it was dropped without the SS Bezel (While I was changing the RGB Lens), so the edge/thread that hold the SS Bezel bend one side.

The RGB Lens fits ok, but the SS Bezel cannot go in.

I spents an hour fix it by filing the thread and the SS Bezel. It is still tight when screwing in and the Edge of the Body (that hold the SS Bezel ) has some visible chips (cover it using black ink marker). and it unnoticeable if not looking closely.

My question is, can I buy just only this part? It is the cylinder body, which holds the SS Bezel, Reflector and the Lens, and which the Knurling on its surface. If you don't have, will ET supply that? Let me know please!

Image 1 to 3 shows the part that dented,
Image 4 is zoom out, which it is not so noticeable
Image 5 is with the SS Bezel on, still look good anyway.

Just wanted to have a new part as spare if possible.
The G is , do not drop if the SS Ring is not in place rclxub.gif
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Yes, I do sell ET brand silicon grease smile.gif
Sorry to hear about your T20C2, I will 'steal' some of the pictures you took and pass it to ET.


Added on October 10, 2009, 2:00 am
QUOTE(mike86 @ Oct 9 2009, 10:24 PM)
new guy report in. just got in hand for the EagleTac P100A2.
Thanks both Philightsophy and Philightsophy's friend Mr.Yap for the COD thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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Thank you Mike smile.gif

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post Oct 16 2009, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Oct 16 2009, 04:02 PM)
weird dream ystd lol...

dreamt that i had a p20a2 and some single cell cr123 surefire light that have a rubberised grip sweat.gif laugh.gif

hmm... wonder what does this means? hmm.gif
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Your P20A2 Neutral White is on its way biggrin.gif tongue.gif laugh.gif
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post Oct 17 2009, 12:38 AM

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QUOTE(damonlbs @ Oct 16 2009, 06:51 PM)
dont see you post the P20A2 on your sales thread
or did i miss it... hmm.gif
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I was joking with NightStalker brows.gif
The P20A2 will be available in the near future.
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post Oct 18 2009, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(old newspaper @ Oct 17 2009, 12:55 AM)
send me the free light also as i have the same dream too ! tongue.gif
Wah, you had the same dream with NightStalker? tongue.gif biggrin.gif

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post Oct 19 2009, 10:52 PM

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The neutral white revolution continues with the Vantage smile.gif
Viva la revolucion!
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post Oct 25 2009, 03:19 AM

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Congratulations on the successful gathering guys thumbup.gif
Hats off to you MiniMoke, you travel from Segamat to attend the gathering, when are you planning to visit me? biggrin.gif

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