QUOTE(Wan @ Aug 16 2009, 04:27 AM)
It's only the first game. Sometimes some team start real badly as shown over the years, some peak too early etc. I wouldn't look into it too much. but we know Arsenal have quality players, and they can pwned anyone on any given day. It's whether they have it to consistently challenge till the end of the season. If they can keep it safe at the back, they would do just that.
How I wish we play just now so we can get it over with. First game of the season(league). Seeing Chelsea nicked it late, and Arsenal trashing Everton really made me anxious for tomorrow's game. Last few seasons our attacking players were missing at the start of those seasons, which made us a bit dull going forward and fail to win the first game(s), but this time it's the defensive unit which is missing people. Hope we win.
Oh well Wan, at least we get to play our first game before the 'other' team.
QUOTE(Duke Red @ Aug 16 2009, 08:17 AM)
Maybe someone can help me here. Why is it you guys hate Tevez so much again?
I must admit I didn't follow his transfer saga too closely. all I remember is that he had wanted to leave after the end of last season because he felt he wasn't wanted by the club. He said he was frustrated at not being offered a permanent contract and he was left out of the team despite playing reasonably well. Later on, a contract was offered but by that time, he had already made up his mind to move away from Old Trafford. A month later, he moved to City. Is the frustration due to him moving to your cross town rivals or that he chose to move in general?
The deal was most probably dragged on no thanks to his REAL owner, Kia. United also most probably tried to get a lower price (since they've paid so much just for the player to come here on loan for 2 years) and tried to negotiate a lower pay with Tevez himself. You've got to understand that even though United pay handsomely at times to clubs to get their man, the wage structure is what they really look at closely. I'm sure you know that player wages mean much more to the club's finances in the long run.
Sure, Ronaldo, one of our highest paid left, freeing up a spot for a 'high maintenance' star. In the end, we gave in to Kia's demand and tabled in a deal which as just a little less or equal (stat guys help me on this please) to Kia's preference. What was his answer, that Tevez? No, he choose to move to Man City. Why? Simply because the Sheikhs at City are able to pay him his reported 150k per week wage without breaking a sweat. 150k, something that's not easy for us to do simply because that's more than current No.1 player was paid whilst at our club.
Please, don't believe the part that he got so much less appearances compared to Roo and Berba. Our stat guys have shown the figures before this, thus rubbishing his claims. There were no bitter feelings between Tevez and the gaffer, well, at least not while HE was within the compounds of the club's facilities. Pictures of him and Fergie sharing a laugh at Carrington were published before and NO, this wasn't in the midst of the whole 'saga' thing. He showed he's a no good coward as all his negative comments were made while he was away, and worse while the season ended when he won't have to see Fergie face to face.
The continous nagging obviously didn't help. Ronaldo's transfer was held back for a season. You don't see him making a scene out of it. He even helped the club (though resulting in fans being utterly dissapointed at first when he DID swap red for white) by rubbishing claims that he'll be moving to Madrid during the on-going season and even before his deal was finalised behind the scene between United and Real. In his case, the one who made a scene was the former Real president, not Ronaldo.
Now, fans are accepting Ronaldo's departure to the Land of Stars. Even blessing our former golden boy, some of us. Why is Tevez not getting the same response? I think you know now.
This post has been edited by Rhadykall: Aug 16 2009, 08:46 AM 
Aug 14 2009, 11:23 AM
Helped censor a few words for LYN of course:
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