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post Jan 24 2010, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(yellow.hunter @ Jan 23 2010, 12:44 PM)
Thanks =) really appreciate ur reply.
Anyway, just came back from d vet.
Well d doc said it MIGHT be cancer. I dun believe her honestly. I mean.. which veterinarian is afraid of animals? =_=" 1st she asked if my hamster bites. Then she said, "erm, u hold him". All she did was just stare. & she wasnt wearing any gloves =-=" like, WTF.
I bought some meds for him. Will observe for 2 weeks.
Hope he'll recover in a few days time
Thanks againĀ  smile.gif

Well, I've did some reading before this. What my hamster is having could be cancer, but I dont wanna conclude as I'm not a specialist. Still need to observe for at least a week 1st before I consult another doctor. As surgeries to treat cancer is consider a major one, hamsters may not survive it due to blood loss or other reasons.

How much did they charged you for ur hamster's surgery btw? & what was d reason for d surgery?
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I'm not defending this vet here, but I'm just giving some clarifications based on my own experience. For such animals, whether they bite or not is actually quite a common question for the vet to ask. And for the not wearing of gloves to protect against bites, you'll need to be wearing quite a thick glove, and wearing such a thick glove makes it difficult for the vet to actually feel the animal. And asking the owner to hold the animal is also quite common, as such animals do not like being to have themselves held in such a manner and will often struggle. Thus it'll be better for somebody who's familiar with the animal to be the one holding them.

Anyways, onto the growth. It may be cancer, but it may just be a non cancerous growth. A non cancerous growth will be better news, but it'll still cause problems in the long run as it'll just get bigger and bigger. There's also a possibility for it to get infected too.

I've just had a hamster come out of surgery yesterday for such a lump on the right cheek, that also got infected.

The surgical procedure itself is quite simple, and the GA given is via gas. Basically getting the hamster to breath in the gas till they get knocked out, then an incision is made where the lump is and the lump taken out.

Whether the hamster will survive or not depends very much on the hamster. For mine, the hamster was very obviously losing weight and was having problems eating solid food, but I fed it the nutri smoothie mix (which is a good thing too that she likes to eat). But she's still rather active. If your hamster is acting weak, then chances r that it may not survive. The good news about mine is that the moment we brought her home and put her back into the tank, the first thing she did was to rush towards the bowl of smoothie. Eating is a good sign.

All in all, we've had 6 visits to the vet:
1) diagnose the lump. not sure what it is as yet. poked a needle into it to draw blood to see. found out there's infection. got given 2 antibiotic jabs
2) 2 more antibiotic jabs the next day
3) 2 more antibiotic jabs the next day. given oral antibiotics to feed to her, 1 drop per day
4) one week later, the infection is starting to mature and there's puss. poked a needle into the lump again, and try to squeeze out puss. continue with the daily oral antibiotics. lump size decreased slightly
5) one week later, lump size increasing again. determined that the lump is not just infection, but could be a growth. here's the decision time, on whether to do surgery or not
6) day after, surgery done, brought hamster back home. put her back into her tank after fully disinfecting the tank. feeding nutri smoothie mix as she's still not keen on solid food. continue with oral antibiotics.

need to bring back to the vet 2 days later for examination again.

edit: cost of surgery is RM100, at the Small Animals Vet over in Bandar Puteri Puchong (next to Mailboxes)

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post Jan 24 2010, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(yellow.hunter @ Jan 24 2010, 01:44 PM)
hm.. well my hamster did "scream" when she tried to touch it. lol. Ok I accept your explaination since u've been to d vet more frequently than I do  biggrin.gif 

U must love your hamster very much  smile.gif 
I got tired of people telling me "it's just a hamster & it has a short live span", well indirectly saying, just leave him & his illness alone.
Well, small or big, it's still a living creature & it deserves to be treated that's how I felt.
Now, I just have to give him his medications everyday & observe his condition.

So how is ur hamster now?  smile.gif
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Well, currently its about 24 hours after bringing her back. The surgery was done yesterday in the morning. Her fur looks better already. Before this, it was matted and spiky, with obvious signs of fur thinning and loss. This morning, the fur's back to the smooth condition once again, although still thin in some areas.

Examined her closely again, and some parts of the lump is still there. This is to be expected in a way I guess, but at least the major part of it is already gone. The vet did also say that a second surgery may be needed for the remainder, but that's to be decided much later after she has recovered from the first. If the small leftover lump doesn't grow anymore, then its then best to just leave it as it is.

The tank or cage where you put the hamster in also needs to be changed slightly post operation. We removed everything from the cage, and instead of putting in the wood shavings, we just lined the bottom of the tank with paper towels, to be changed daily. Only thing in the tank now are the food bowl, a little plate with the smoothie mix, and a little container that she likes to hide in (this little container has to be disinfected on a daily basis too). In other words, keep the tank as simple as possible, so its easy to clean up on a daily basis, as its very important to prevent any infection of the surgery wound.

Examine the surgery wound regularly too, and if its bleeding, try to clean up using cotton balls soaked in warm water (boil the water, then wait for it to cool down).
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post Jan 25 2010, 12:10 AM

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QUOTE(yellow.hunter @ Jan 24 2010, 09:14 PM)
Looks like she's recovering pretty well  smile.gif  how's her appetite?
What breed is your hamster btw?
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She's a winter white (pearl). Currently well enough to start running around the tank away from me when I have to take her out to feed her the antibiotics. Appetite seems to be alright, although still prefer the smoothie mix rather than solid food that she still picks at.
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post Jan 25 2010, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(yellow.hunter @ Jan 25 2010, 01:01 AM)
glad to hear that. hope she recovers real soon  smile.gif
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Let me know how your hamster is doing, and/or if she needs to go for surgery or not. I can pass u the contact of the vet that we went to over in Bandar Puteri Puchong.
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post Jan 27 2010, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(NoiZy @ Jan 25 2010, 11:30 AM)
Glad she is ok, at least she is eating rclxms.gif
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Just brought the hamster (Eenie) back to the vet yesterday for the post surgery checkup. She seems to be doing ok, and improving. Such surgery wounds tends to take just 3 days to heal, but since there's infection in the area as well (from before the surgery), it may take longer. But the wound itself is already closed up properly, but there's some ugly looking scabs still stuck there still. Leaving those scabs alone for the time being.

Still some 'pimple' looking little bumps on her skin where the left over lumps are at, most likely puss accumulating from the previous infection. Decided not to touch those as yet as its too close to where the surgery wound is at. Contrary to most beliefs, such signs of puss can actually be a good sign, when it comes to a bad infection, as it shows that the body is fighting off the infection and isolating away the infected cells. Normally has to be lanced and removed, but this has to wait a bit in Eenie's case.

Next trip to the vet will be in 7-10 days, or if any of the 'pimples' breaks (on its own or from her own pawing) for an antibiotic jab (just in case she eats any of the puss while cleaning herself) and a cleanup of the area.
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post Feb 1 2010, 02:59 PM

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Hamster tumor update:

Today's the 8th visit to the vet, 10 days after the surgery to remove the tumor from the right cheek.

She's getting very itchy fingers/paws, and had scratched off all the scabs. Quite a big scare there, as the peeling off of the scab like that caused some bleeding as well, but the surgery wound is already closed. Just some raw skin exposed still where the scab was scratched off.

The newer lump under the chin that had been slowly growing in size after the surgery shrunk down too, which is an indication that its filled with puss rather than being a new growth. Needless to say, there's another wound over there after she had scratched off the scab there too, but the puss had drained out.

All that was done at the vet today was just basic cleanup of the wound, of which we'll continue to do on our on on a daily basis till the skin there has healed properly.

She's started eating solid foods again, but will continue to provide the nutrie smoothie mix. Mixing in some sugar glider protein supplement into the food as well to help her gain weight again.



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post Feb 1 2010, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(RyoKenzaki @ Feb 1 2010, 03:16 PM)
My rat have undergo a tumor surgery too few months ago, which vet did u went to?
Glad to see it getting better
We went over to the Pusat Perubatan Veterinar Small Animals, over at Bandar Puteri Puchong, next to Mailboxes
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post Feb 1 2010, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(RyoKenzaki @ Feb 1 2010, 10:15 PM)
She have skin infection i think...
Keep losing hair
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hmm.. not necessarily. hair loss in animals is a general sign of health problems. In fact, the fur condition is kinda a sign of the overall health too. Eenie (the hamster that went through surgery) had pretty bad fur when the tumor (which was also infected. refer to my previous posts in this thread for further details) was at its worse before the surgery, her fur was very very thin, and matted.

The day after the surgery, her fur was back to being smooth again, but still thin, and its slowly growing back thicker. Kinda a sign of recovery here as well (along with the appetite coming back too).

Thus, it can be something else that's the problem actually, where the fur loss is one of the signs.
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post Feb 10 2010, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Feb 10 2010, 02:04 AM)
Hey, does anyone here know how to coax a hamster to wake up earlier? My hamster is waking up later and later and later until no one could really play with her since she wakes up so late.

She'll wake up around 1.30 or 2 a.m. Mana ada mood dah? XD
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hamsters are nocturnal animals. ie. awake during the dark and asleep during day time. i guess you can try to put your hamster cage in a dark place during the day and in a place with light during the night and see if u can get any differences or not?
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post Feb 11 2010, 07:57 PM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Feb 10 2010, 01:19 PM)
I know they're nocturnal, but hers is getting a little bit too far. She sleeps pretty much the night too.

During the day the cage is quite dark, actually.

We've tried coaxing her to come out earlier (not so early, about an hour earlier like 12.30), but she'd just slip right out of our hands and hide.
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Mine tends to come rushing out the moment we drop food into the food bowl. But they also like to just run and hide the moment we try to catch them. The running away and hiding may not be due to them wanting to sleep, but could just be a normal reaction of small animals to run away when there's something big and scary wanting to pick them up.


Added on February 11, 2010, 7:58 pm
QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Feb 11 2010, 02:21 AM)
jz wake him up and force him to play la...  laugh.gif
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Good chance of getting bitten too if the hamster is in a bad mood smile.gif

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post Feb 19 2010, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(Snoopie @ Feb 19 2010, 08:58 PM)
robo is wild type.. different from other hamster..  biggrin.gif
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I won't exactly use the word wild on them, as they almost never bite at all. Cowardly hyperactive is more like it smile.gif

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