soul2soul,

1) Are you OLD enough to know UEM reverse take over of Renong in 97/98?? If not, do a google and find out. Yes, securities commission suspended their rule to let it happened. And, the majority shareholders of UEM are the GLIC like EPF, PNB and so on.

I invested in UEM. I lost my money in UEM. From then on, I promised myself not to invest on ANY GLC or GLIC.

2) I believe bumi should invest in ASB. I believe non-bumi that invested in ASx to be "running dogs". They voted for this government with their money in spite of what is going on lately. So, if those non-bumi lose their money, they deserve it. I am biased. I believe people should vote with their money along with their belief. They CANNOT say they do not support the government but still give the government more money.

3) If you go back long enough, you will find that in every Malaysia recession over the past 30 years, the same thing like (1) happened.

Dreamer


This post has been edited by dreamer101: Aug 6 2009, 07:13 PM

<< soul2soul,

1) Are you OLD enough to know UEM reverse take over of Renong in 97/98?? If not, do a google and find out. Yes, securities commission suspended their rule to let it happened. And, the majority shareholders of UEM are the GLIC like EPF, PNB and so on.

I invested in UEM. I lost my money in UEM. From then on, I promised myself not to invest on ANY GLC or GLIC.

You made bad calls in the stocks during the 1997 crisis. As a result, you lost some money, and you blamed the government for this mess.>>

soul2soul,

It is OBVIOUS that you have NO IDEA what the UEM incident is. So, I wish you best of lucks.....

Dreamer

This post has been edited by dreamer101: Aug 7 2009, 09:36 AM

soul2soul,

It is VERY SIMPLE. For everyone, I make a SIMPLE request. Google and find out what exactly happened to UEM during 97/98. After you done that, if you STILL trust the government, it is YOUR choice.

1) But, what I cannot stand is PEOPLE choose to be IGNORANT. They are so CARELESS with their own money that they cannot spare a few minutes of their time to find out.

2) I am STILL okay with people be CARELESS with their own money. But, will you SLEEP with a CLEAR CONSCIENCE without checking things out FIRST before recommending this AS1M to someone else?

As for (2), if you MADE a BAD recommendation to your friend and family, you have to live with this for the rest of your life.

It is OBVIOUS from your response that you have NOT done your homework as to what exactly happened to UEM during 97/98.

Why?? What are you afraid of?

Dreamer

This post has been edited by dreamer101: Aug 7 2009, 11:15 AM

soul2soul,

Do you UNDERSTAND that those are BUMI lot?? Aka,the 30% allocated to BUMI as per NEP. Hence, PNB can ONLY channel those stock to ASB only or else they will be breaking the LAW since ONLY ASB is "BUMI ONLY".

This is WHY ASB pay out better dividend than ANYTHING else. Aka, ASB is a good deal for BUMI.

This is also WHY ASx is not as good a deal for non-bumi. PNB cannot use the same trick to make money for any non "BUMI ONLY" unit trust.

Think!!!

Dreamer

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Added on August 7, 2009, 11:39 amsoul2soul,

1) If you couldn't bother to find out about UEM, you can choose to lose your money in any places.

2) Why do you WORK so hard to earn YOUR MONEY but not willing to spend time and effort to LEARN how to protect YOUR MONEY??

3) Why should I bother to answer your question when you DO NOT CARE anyhow?? It is YOUR MONEY. I just do not want you to spread bad information to cause OTHERS to lose money.

Dreamer

This post has been edited by dreamer101: Aug 7 2009, 11:41 AM

http://malaysiafinance.blogspot.com/2009/0...tegy-ahead.html

Folks,

This is a good commentary on what are the changes going on in PNB as far as investment strategy.

http://malaysiafinance.blogspot.com/2009/0...bond-issue.html

Petronas is raising money too.

Dreamer

This post has been edited by dreamer101: Aug 7 2009, 07:07 PM

Folks,

1) Seriously, given that there are less than 5 counters worth investing in KLSE and you KNOW that AS1M will have to invest on those 5 counters, you will make MORE MONEY by buying those 5 counters before AS1M.

2) Do your own homework.

3) Honestly, I make more money when people buy AS1M.

Dreamer

howszat,

There are MORE IMPORTANT things in life than making money. For example, a clear conscience. If not, you are NOT having a life worth living.

Dreamer

Kamen Rider,

Search on my post in this forum and you will see which counter that I invested in and why.

As for the other 4, Cherroy has his / her list. I did not do enough research to have confident to invest on those. Check out the Cherroy recommendation on high dividend counter thread.

htt,

If SOMEONE want to sell 10 billions of something and he HOPE to sell at least 5 billions of that. But, the result is 1.4 billions. So, is that a GOOD result?? 1.4 out of 5 = 28%. Is that a passing grade??

This is what we call "Spin Control".

Dreamer

soul2soul,

PNB invest in stock market too. In fact, 70% to 80% of ASx is in stocks. So, what makes you think that it is LOWER RISK??

Dreamer

soul2soul,

What recovery?? The worst is yet to come.

And, with public caning of woman, we can forget about getting more FDI from the West.

Dreamer

darkknight81,

1) So, even if Malaysian economy collapses and most of GLCs gone bankrupt, you have NOTHING to worry about??

<<unless you are going into stock>>

2) 70% to 80% of ASx investment is in stock. You buy ASx that means you are buying stock. Why is it so hard for you to understand??

Dreamer

darkknight81,

1) That STILL does not change the FACT that ASx invest in stock. Now, instead of investing in stock market directly, people invest in stock market indirectly via ASx. So, your STATEMENT about people not investing in stock when they buy ASx is NOT ACCURATE.

<<If you are going for as* fund ... basically you don need to concern much on economic scenario much unless you are going into stock or properties which market timing is important.>>
<<Pls remember every investment tools has its own risk.... So judge your own...Don tell me that you investment portfolio are risk free... tongue.gif>>

2) It is YOU that claim ASx is RISK FREE.

Dreamer

cookie-monster,

Learn how to write proper English first. I have NO IDEA what your post is about.

Dreamer

ah_suknat,

Bingo.

I give money to school and charity.

Dreamer

P.S.: I have been giving out a lot of advice that worth $$$. It is just a question of whether people can understand and use it.

This post has been edited by dreamer101: Aug 29 2009, 07:36 AM

http://www.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...5417&sec=nation

<< KUALA LUMPUR: Amanah Saham shares worth RM100mil will be given to the hardcore poor in urban areas to help them make ends meet, said Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak.>>

<<The first phase of the units would be sold on Oct 10 in the Federal Territory.>>

Hi,

1) Can anyone decode what does this means?? If something is given, why do you need to buy??

2) If this is AS1M, would that means the government is using the AS1M's shareholder's money to do charity?? Now, if this is NOT AS1M, which ASx is this??

Dreamer

arsenal,

You have 60 days lock down now. They could always extend this LONGER.

??!!,

<<If there is none, consumers should demand manager to show receipt of payment for these units that BN govt is giving out FOC..>>

I do not understand what is YOUR POINT here??

Every unit that is given out dilute the ownership of existing ASx owner. Aka, the money is coming out of the pocket of the existing ASx owner. You do not want the unit to be given FOC by PNB. If the government want to give away ASx, the government should buy from PNB.

Dreamer

myvi5949,

Who say so??

With 50 billions of OIL MONEY last year, the CORRECT question should be why not more people is getting this.

Dreamer

CrossFirE,

<<the higher the risk the higher the POTENTIAL return rate>>

There is NO GUARANTEE that your higher risk translate into return either.

Dreamer

Ken,

Not true either.

In financial term, loaning money to government is risk free. You still get return. Ditto for FD. Still it is guaranteed.

Dreamer

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Added on September 23, 2009, 7:07 pmCrossFirE,

<<if you can tolerate higher risk then you get higher return lor right?>>

NO!!!

Let me REPEAT ONE MORE TIME and try to get through your THICK HEAD.

There is NO GUARANTEE that you will get HIGHER RETURN if you take HIGHER RISK.

In fact, for most NORMAL people the HIGHEST RISK is STUPIDITY. People invest on stuff that they do not understand.

In MOST CASES, stupid people take on HIGHER RISK and get LOWER RETURN. Vice versa, SMART PEOPLE take on LOWER RISK and get HIGHER RETURN.

The KEY FACTOR is YOU.

Do you KNOW what are the 4 things that you MUST know before you invest on ANYTHING?

Dreamer


This post has been edited by dreamer101: Sep 23 2009, 07:07 PM

CrossFirE,

You know NONE of the 4.


Before you invest on something, let call this as X.

You must know

A) How you can make money from X??

B) How you can lose money from X?

C) Under what condition and what price you should buy X?

D) Under what condition and what price, you should sell X?

This applies to ANY investments. It can be FD, stock, real estate and whatever. If you DO NOT KNOW (A) to (D), you definitely do not know enough to invest.

Dreamer

STUPIDITY is the BIGGEST RISK to the investor.

Over-confidence is the second BIGGEST RISK.

This post has been edited by dreamer101: Sep 23 2009, 07:42 PM