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 AS1M, ASM, ASW, ASB V2, PNB fund

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post Sep 21 2009, 05:28 PM

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hey guys, i am non bumi and would like to know what to invest. in this thread, where should i invest then? ASM1?
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post Sep 21 2009, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Sep 21 2009, 10:08 PM)
Only AS1M is available for purchase by non-bumi at the moment.

ASW and ASM already fully subscribed.
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then what is the rate then? fully subscribed?
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post Sep 22 2009, 02:04 AM

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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Sep 21 2009, 11:30 PM)
AS1M is the only choice now for non bumi.
Nobody knows the expected rate of return but should give higher rates compare to bank fixed deposit.
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so what is the risk of investing in this then?
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post Sep 22 2009, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Sep 22 2009, 03:18 AM)
Depending how much you trust the government is probably the risk.

Excluding the collapse of PNB and probably the government;

In terms of financial risks of complete loss, zero.

In terms of financial risks of no returns, negligeble but not zero.

In terms of risk of less return compared to other safe investments, moderate risk.
Basically falls between FD and other unti trusts. You get the apparent safety of FD but not the potential profits of unit trusts.

All in my opinion anyway, everyone here has one of their own.
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thanks for your explainations. i think that i am going for FD because it is safer and i not willing to take the risk. i want to ask, if i put my money to FD in one of those banks. 12 month period, meaning that i cannot take out my money for 12 months right? if i do so, they will charge me right? after 12 months, i can take my money out right?

about unit trust, it is more risky but it's revenue is much more higher compare to FD?
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post Sep 22 2009, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Sep 22 2009, 11:49 AM)
Every bank has different T&C actually. Certain banks will pay you the interest upfront and some allow you to make partial withdrawals.

You can still take out your money anytime but there will be a penalty on your interest earned.
Unit trust is more of a long term investment so you can get the maximum potential profit. Not the kind of thing for me though.
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icic.. because now i got FD investment in HL bank. it pay interest for me every month but i not sure if i can take the money out after 12 months period.

Unit trust is a long term investment? how long? 5 years? 10 years? and the potential profit is how much compare to FD?
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post Sep 22 2009, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Sep 22 2009, 04:31 PM)
if u invest in AS1M, u can also withdrawl the money as and when u need it, the dividen is based on the lowest balance of the month, but only pay out once a year on its financial year end, as long as your account remain active, u will get your share of dividen.
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hmm.. icic.. but i heard that every bank has different kind of FD right? some have to input money in every month right?
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post Sep 22 2009, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 22 2009, 05:17 PM)
UT is long term investment, but it doesn't mean long term must generate your profit, it's return rate is total unknown which generally depended how equities market performing.

It can still generate you negative return rate aka loss money for you even after long term.
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wow.. so this is kinda of gambling right? it can even make you lose your money? hmm.. so the higher the risk the higher the return rate i presume.
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post Sep 23 2009, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Sep 23 2009, 08:22 AM)
CrossFirE,

<<the higher the risk the higher the POTENTIAL return rate>>

There is NO GUARANTEE that your higher risk translate into return either.

Dreamer
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that is still depend on how much risk you can tolerate. if you can tolerate higher risk then you get higher return lor right?

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post Sep 23 2009, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Sep 23 2009, 07:01 PM)
Ken,

Not true either.

In financial term, loaning money to government is risk free.  You still get return.  Ditto for FD.  Still it is guaranteed.

Dreamer


Added on September 23, 2009, 7:07 pm
CrossFirE,

<<if you can tolerate higher risk then you get higher return lor right?>>

NO!!!

Let me REPEAT ONE MORE TIME and try to get through your THICK HEAD.

There is NO GUARANTEE that you will get HIGHER RETURN if you take HIGHER RISK.

In fact, for most NORMAL people the HIGHEST RISK is STUPIDITY.  People invest on stuff that they do not understand.

In MOST CASES, stupid people take on HIGHER RISK and get LOWER RETURN.  Vice versa, SMART PEOPLE take on LOWER RISK and get HIGHER RETURN.

The KEY FACTOR is YOU.

Do you KNOW what are the 4 things that you MUST know before you invest on ANYTHING?

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4 things before investing?

u must fulfill your basic needs or necessity
u must have savings.


i only know this 2. tongue.gif


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